Does decapitating your four year old sound insane? What about hiding it in the woods afterwards?
Eugenics, my ass! If I read the article correctly (and if my math skills are still up to scratch), this crazy bitch had a 1-year old…and a three-month old !!! That barely gave her time for a coffee break before she got pregnant again!
This is one baby-making machine that needs to be de-activated post haste!
In fact, I think sterilization should be mandatory for any mother who commits a crime of this grievous magnitude against her own child. That is, if she manages to dodge the needle (which I sincerely hope she doesn’t).
Just because you do something crazy doesn’t mean you are necessarily insane.
That occured to me too. Maybe I should back off and say there’s a 99% chance she’s crazy. Test her and if she is insane, she gets committed and if not, she gets tried. Personally, I think it unlikely a sane person would do such a thing in hopes of exchanging barred windows for padded ones.
Oklahoma’s Habitual Criminal Sterilization Act was struck down by the Supreme Court as violative of the 14th Amendment in 1942.
So to be considered insane, and thus immune from criminal punishment, one just needs to make sure their crime is sufficiently heinous that no “sane” person would commit it?
I don’t care if she has a mental illness, unless it can be demonstrated that she did not know the difference between right and wrong should be she excluded from prosecution. They determined that woman who drowned her four kids was off her rocker, but being off your rocker != acquittal in the United States. You have to demonstrate that you were criminally insane to the point that you did not know the difference between right and wrong.
So, do you guys also give a pass to that guy that killed his baby because it was bothering him while he played EverQuest?
Or the guy who put his baby in a microwave and fried it?
Or is it only in the case of a woman killing (or maiming) a baby that we should automatically assume the person has to be insane?
Based on what evidence?
The point is that we don’t know - and I suspect none of us is qualified to judge, especially on the basis of a short article - whether she’s mentally ill or not: she may well be, of course, but the assumption that all horrific crimes must by definition by committed by the mentally ill is a very dangerous one. Perhaps she’s just evil.
Aww come on,
All she did was "allegedly placing her 3-month-old son in a clothes dryer "
And it only resulted in " third-degree burns over 50 percent of his body "
I mean, really, who here can say they have never done that?
Ok That was a little trollish. Satire has its uses and this is one of them. I have two sons, one a proud twenty something the other a pain in the ass fourten year old bastard and all I can think is WTF??
Err… by “pain in the ass fourteen year old bastard”, I meant perfectly normal teen boy.
Must have been somthing wrong with my keyboard.
I repeat, I genuinely struggle to believe that she is of sound mind and carried out this act coldly and deliberately before phoning the police, when postnatal psychosis is a known condition.
But then again, I also genuinely struggle to understand how the US can be called “civilised”.
Ouch. I foresee tears before bedtime.
I don’t understand why it would be dangerous. It is what it is. A woman who apparently lacks the maternal instinct to protect and nurture, and instead murders her child, isn’t playing with a full deck. There could be a number of reasons for it, ranging from drug or alcohol abuse, post-partum depression, schizophrenia, or any number of reasons. There is something wrong with her that keeps her from behaving the way the vast majority of women behave toward their children.
You’re talking about “legal” crazy rather than “clinical” crazy. There’s a huge difference.
Is there an undercurrent of sexism here? The woman is being suggested to be mentally ill, but were it the father, I doubt we’d hear a peep of that.
I think we have a natural instinct not to murder our own children. Murder is of course taboo everywhere, murdering children a step beyond that, and murdering them in such a macabre way a step beyond that. It’s behavior that is so far out of the norm that I have a hard time believing that a sane person would ever do it.
Post-childbirth depression/psychosis is more common in the one gender that undergoes the actual childbirth.
Really? You don’t think that, were a father to put a baby into the dryer, the suggestion that he was mentally ill would not be made? I find that unlikely.
And why is it that you suspect this bias against men?
I’m thinking of the instances I’ve heard of in which fathers killed children, and I cannot recall thinking other than there was some sort of mental illness involved.
I agree with that. I say beat the holy livin' shit out of her, then spay her, then lock the bitch up. I don't even give a fuck if she's crazy.Hmmm. If shes going to be locked up for the rest of her natural, then isn’t the middle step a little redundant? And what’s the first step supposed to accomplish, other than make you feel better?
I can’t say that I’m too surprised that a schoolgirl with two kids at the age of eighteen has ended up as a horrific headline and an advertisement for birth control. There’s a reason why having kids is normally reserved for slightly later in life these days.