Being the put-upon demonized figure makes it easy to justify striking back.
Conspiracism (is that a word?) without basis is a kind of mental illness. I’ve personally known these perpetual victims of the USSR many years after its existance became an artifact of history. Their victimhood knows no bounds, despite the fact that they live, and even thrive, in a host country that provides them with a better life than they could ever realize in the post Communist Russia. Yet, they continue to pine for some imaginary version of their former mother land and heap scorn on the hand that feeds them.
So while people like this do exists, it’s not because of the former injustice (real or imagined) - it’s their own inability to cope. At least back then & there, they had a (possibly) legitimate excuse for under-performing in life. Take that away from them and they can’t find real fault outside of their own shortcomings. Sometimes it’s easier to pack your bags and return to being a victim among your own kind.
Er… You do realize why the city is called Grozny don’t you?
For myself, sure, she’s a crank, but such behavior is fairly common among the parents of murderers(denying their children were guilty regardless of the evidence).
I certainly don’t blame OJ Simpson’s mother for denying her son was a murderer and I don’t blame her either.
Besides, when a parent loses a child, I generally give them a pass.
Which indeed is what I mean by:
They can’t wrap their minds around the concept that you can still fail even if there is no plot against you (or at least none beyond the generic equal-opportunity shafting of the have-nots by the haves). It has got to be evil working against you because you expected justice and freedom had to result in happiness.
They are more *vulnerable *to fall for the delusion due to the prior experiences. But it IS a delusion, that they cling to so they can feel that they are not, as Uncle Ruslan said, just “losers who could not make it and took it out on those who did”.
And while we are at it…let’s give the Uncle some serious props for saying it like it is/was.
Would you ever consider a possibility that people are just fucking insane? Just a thought.
Couldn’t that count as hearsay? Just asking.
I assume he was a paternal uncle? 
Yes. Just like a 100 people telling you I am asshole because of X. But at some point aren’t you going to conclude that I am actually one?
Time will tell how many customers come forward to out her. But my main two points were that she would have been hard pressed to find a job that would have been more likely to have her view “leaked” as it were. It wasn’t like she was some quite cubicle drone. And IF she is as bad some stories make her out to be, she is as much to blame for this shit as anyone else.
And again, IF so I hope she knows it.
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The WaPo has an article about the family (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/feature/wp/2013/04/27/the-tsarnaev-family-a-faded-portrait-of-an-immigrants-american-dream/). Both the parents sound like real pieces of work, the dad was a petty shoplifter at the local salvage yard and claimed a loading zone as private workspace and the mom sounds like a nut. There are two brothers of the father who seem to have done well for themselves. The older brother called one the uncles to reconcile just before the brother was killed.
If the report is accurate it was sad that the brothers were falling deep into drugs and alcohol. But the real tragedy was the solution to that problem, the mother convinced them to get closer to religion so the smoking and alcohol was finally removed from their lives, only to be replaced by something that was more damaging in the end.
What a deadly twelve-step program.
Um, no. She became slightly insane, and expressed ludicrous beliefs and misplaced anger BEFORE this event. Her own behavior undoubtedly helped lead her sons down this path. And for that she should feel grief and guilt - pain-wrenching, soul-twisting guilt. Not just for her own sons, but for the innocent people they killed and maimed.
The appropriate response now would be silence. Sadly for her family, Mother Tsarnaeva is all mouth and no brain.
As soon as they began to interview parts of the family it became pretty clear to me the kind of instability these boys must have been exposed to as their daily bread and butter. I could see how that could shape them into nut jobs. One moment the uncle, is calling them losers, next an auntie is claiming they were framed. One minute they are begging forgiveness and regretting the shame this as brought upon their family, the next the mother is waving away any inquiry about the outstanding charges against her. Who goes through the expense and hassle on immigrating the returns to war torn wherever over shoplifting?
These things, some of which is excusable as grief in the face of horror no doubt, lead me to believe these boys were raised around people highly successful and surviving in a brutal reality. For me it’s only a tiny step to how that could mangle young minds trying to find a way in a new land.
I am not making any excuses for any of them, please don’t misunderstand me. They did come from a pretty brutal background, are part of what can be a volatile community, and must have been fed a steady diet of dysfunction, while growing up in a new land, which may require a skill set they have not seen modelled, I expect.
There is likely the sort of cultural requirement not unlike Muslim brides weeping heartily on their wedding days. There are many who are weeping real tears, being wed very early to a man, possibly much older, that they barely know. They are aware of how vulnerable they will be to bullying and even abuse. But even the ones who pick the boy, are happy to marry, weep for hours.
It is somewhat culturally expected, whether sincere or not. It means to make the mother of the bride feel how much love her daughter has for her, or how much she will miss her. It means to make her appear innocent, naive, even a little frightened about sexual congress. A compliment for her husband and a demonstration of her modesty.
I’m just saying, I could make some room for understanding, knowing these truly strange defences and denials may be ‘what a mother is expected to do’ when their son is accused. Regardless of guilt or complicity, or horror of the crime.
It’s one thing to believe your sons innocent in the absence of overwhelming evidence. This is not that. What we have here is a human who failed at being a mother or succeeded very well at being a terrorist after having urged her sons to commit such a cowardly and atrocious act. Let’s give her the benefit of the doubt and say she’s a failed mother. Much like Georgiana William, the mothers of the attacker of Reginald Denny, Damian Williams. What we have is an example of one part:
this despicable, deranged human being:
…and one part
Zubeidat Tsarnaeva: “I don’t care if my youngest son is going to be killed today. I want the world to hear this. And, I don’t care if I am going to get killed too. And I will say Allahu Akbar!”
I completely gave her a hall pass at the beginning. Since then, the more that’s uncovered and the more she talks the less I’m inclined to ever feel that way again.
All better people than you.
And here we have a perfect example of the deranged, complete-break-with-reality of a poster on the left. Of course I could ask you to show your math here, but you won’t. Why? Because even the stupid in you realizes that if you did, you’d be exposed to be as deranged as the two assholes I cited.
But good work on focusing the spotlight on your deranged mind.
Here’s the math, fucktard. You think you’re cute sneaking a little nigger-bashing into a completely unrelated thread. In your fucktard arrogance, you think you are actually making some kind of point. Point made: the biggest failure was your mother.
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahaha. My God, you are truly deranged. You read that and see an attack on Blacks?!
I guess I’ll just have to ask you to show your math again.
You funny man! Fucked in the head as all get out. But funny, too! :D:D