You wouldn’t happen to be this person, would you?
I must have the sense of humor of a thirteen-year old boy, because I can’t stop giggling about this.
Guess i better brush up on my typing skills too.
…and okay, after much deliberation, you were right Equipoise. Moulin Rouge IS better than Glitter.
Oops, I must have missed it.
Personally, I loved Chicago and hated MR. Thought the latter was just an over-the-top spectacle with a silly love story, while the former was just great fun all around (with an interesting, albeit unbelievable, “crime” story). Course, that’s just my opinion (which, alone with a buck-fifty, may get you on a bus…)
BTW, Eve have you seen this thread about “Rene’s Story”?
One of the things I think is interesting about Moulin Rouge! is that the format allows for an unbelievable romance – remember, almost the entire movie is the story of Christian’s novel. Is he objective? No. Is he reliable? Maybe not. All we see of the “real” world of the film is Christian at his typewriter. We have only his word for it that he and the star of the Moulin Rouge were ever in love at all, much less that it “really” happened the way he says.
*Oh come on now, I can understand not liking the movie, but one thing it certainly didn’t lack was irony!
Alright, new Elton problem.
Looks like a piggy.
Thank you.
Re: the Bernie thing. If Mr “John” sang the following:
It’s a little bit funny this feeling inside Bernie,
Bernie’s not one of those who can easily hide
Bernie don’t have much money but boy, if he did
Bernie’d buy a big house where you both could live
… that’s be fine. But he doesn’t. He sings it all in the first person, which is confusing at best. Furthermore, I am having severe problems believing that either of them “don’t have much money”.
Mind you I’ve got a signed copy of an old book of Bernie Taupin lyrics, “THE ONE WHO WRITES THE SONGS FOR ELTON JOHN”. Worth anything, y’think? If so, I’ll probably drop my crusade against Mr “John” for a bit.
ps: yes, I got the bad grammar bit from IHATEMUSIC, I figured there’d be far more lists of things wrong with Mr “John”, so clearly I’ll have to start my own list instead.
I don’t even really like Elton John, but this is just silly. Many popular singers do not write their own lyrics, and to my knowledge none of them convert the lyrics from first to third person just because they didn’t actually pen them themselves. That would be confusing, not singing the song the way it was written.
I have to tell you, that complaint makes no sense. He didn’t convert it to third person? Huh? Gotta tell you, the lyrics as amended are far more unintelligable than the original.
And the song was copyrighted in 1969. Elton broke out in 1970-71. Why is it hard to believe that the struggling, lower middle class Reginald Kenneth Dwight didn’t have much money?
To be fair, I like a lot of Elton John’s stuff, particularly the early stuff. As he went on, he became less and less original. “English Rose” definitively sealed his status as a hack.
I meant to add … However, the use of Elton John’s song in the movie, as well as any of the other pop songs … none of it was creative, interesting, or appealling at all. It just seemed supremely lazy. Especially when there were long stretches of dialogue that were nothing more than quotes from dozens of pop songs.
Aha! But he still sings it that way! He should now sing
*It’s a little bit funny, this feeling inside my lyricist on whose behalf I’m singing,
He, or me, one of us, anyway, is not one of those who can easily hide
I am unbelievably rich and live like a pampered maniac caesar,
And thus I shall buy you the biggest house you’ve ever seen (except then I’ll probably get in a strop and sack you)
I sat in my palatial roofgarden, and I had a vodka flown in from Moscow
Well some of these verses, they’re getting a little more honest,
But the public’s failure to realise I’m a twat has been quite kind, while I wrote this song
It’s for people like you, who keep buying the stuff every time it gets released on a new format.
I don’t care whether you mind or not, I really don’t, because I could buy or sell you you silly little man,
That I, except it wasn’t me it was Bernie, put down in words
How wonderful life is
When you have a mountain of cash and dress like a lunatic.*
I’m being woooshed here, right?
Not to mention anyone who had seen the original 1928 movie version.
Oh. Right. That would be just me, wouldn’t it . . .
Ross, have a little too much time on our hands, do we?
Still, even I have to admit that was pretty damn funny.
Ross - dude, you’re not making any kind of sense at all. Shouldn’t Paul McCartney sing “When I’m 64”, Roger Daltrey “My Generation”, Rod Stewart “Maggie May” ASF?
You don’t like Elton - fine. Don’t try to apply your weird logic to that feeling. It doesn’t work.
When did the rule become that all songs are to be autobiographical?
Back to the original topic… I and most people I know think MR was fantastic. Two of my friends (both very intelligent, tasteful and sensitive people) love it so much that they included the phrase “come what may” in their wedding vows, and used it as their first dance at their wedding.
So is it the most love-it-or-hate-it movie of all time?
Now, back to the hijack. I think Elton…
Nah! Just kidding.
Yes. But only stupid, tasteless, insensitive people hate it. :rolleyes: