Movie genres that will always "suck".

Total Recall

Rosemary’s Baby, The Exorcist

The Passion of Joan of Arc, The Last Temptation of Christ

Jackson’s Tolkien Trilogy

Lawrence of Arabia–almost any later David Lean movie

The Thing from Another World, Alien, The Hidden, The Borrower

Stagecoach, The Searchers, The Oxbow Incident, Ride the High Country, The Naked Spur, The Man from Laramie, Rio Bravo

A Star Is Born (1937 and 1954), The Star, Tin Star, Dark Star, Starship Troopers

All Quiet on the Western Front, The Story of G.I. Joe, The Best Years of Our Lives, Mrs. Miniver, We Were Expendable, Twelve O’Clock High, Apocolypse Now, Zentropa

Superman, Spider Man I & II, Batman Begins, A History of Violence

Hmm. You might have me there.

*D.O.A. *(1950)

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931), Gaslight (1947), Topsy Turvy, Howard’s End

Them

The Merry Widow, Meet Me in St. Louis, The Bandwagon, Dancer in the Dark, Moulin Rouge

Dawn of the Dead, 28 Days Later

*Nosferatu *(1922, 1979), Vampyr, *Dracula *(1931, 1992), The Addiction

You do realize that you’ve just significantly increased your chances of waking up tomorrow with a couple dozen wooden stakes in your heart and a couple hundred bullet in your brain?

“Aliens” didn’t suck. Although technically not a horror movie itself it was still part 2 of an extremely popular horror movie.

Teen anything generally sucks for anyone who isn’t a teen. And they generally suck for those teens who they were originally targeted at once they stop being teens. That they are obligatory disposable items is kind of given with that “teen” title.

Having said that I was under the impression that “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” had aged fairly well. It’s a bit hard to tell since I was in the original demographic for that one, but I hear tell that it’s kept up as well as most movies.

It has. It’s been on one of the movie channels like Encore or Starz the past few months and I still end up watching it.

Southpark?
Okay, maybe I should have said genres that MOSTLY suck. Sometimes there is an exception to the suck rule. Sometimes the genre sucks because every film in that genre will inevitably be a poor version of that film.
Like shark movies. Even if you expand it to all sea predators, has there been a shark movie since (Deep Blue Sea, Jaws II thru infinity) that you haven’t been like “meh…just like Jaws”?

I’d say it’s not so much the lack of ass-kicking, but any movie about Christianity that stays within the principles of the religion will have a lead character who is, by definition, flawless. Flawless characters may make great deities, but they sure can’t carry a motion picture. That’s why the Old Testament was better than the New Testament - God had flaws, Jesus (and new God) were sinless and all loving.

Then again, perhaps the inability to be an interesting main character is a flaw. If there was a movie about Jesus failing to be an actor because of his niceness, that could be good.

So, are these movies that suck or movies that don’t suck? Of the ones that I’ve seen, I’d put half of them in one category and half in the other.

I’d like to nominate for movies that will always suck, movies that have been done before. For example, we’ve had Twister in 1996. May or may not have sucked. Now, we are going to get Category 7: The End of the World. Absolutely guaranteed to suck (no pun intended).

I will fight you till the end of time over whether *Dogma * is a serious Christianity film. I believe it is. Rubber poop monsters aside, that film has some of the most intelligent and down-to-earth discussions of faith and theology I can recall seeing in any modern movie.

Also, Wim Wenders’ Wings of Desire is a serious film and might qualify, and is very good.

Left Behind is merely seriously schlocky.

As others have said, there is no genre that inherently sucks. There are plenty of bad movies, but the potential for a good movie always exists.

Agreed. Moses movies are good because Moses is a flawed character. And he was badass! I mean he *iced * an Egyptian slave master with his bare hands! And man did he flip-out when he found the Israelites worshipping idols!
Anyone ever see a good movie about people trapped on a ghost ship (Ghost Ship, Deep Blue Rising, Event Horizon)?

Is that Latin for, “There is no accounting for taste?”

I agree, for the most part. But lets not forget American Pie, Breakfast Club, and the classic and underrated Sixteen Candles!

Here we are on page 2 already and nobody’s mentioned SNL movies yet?

Coneheads, people! CONEHEADS!

I don’t think we can actually say something of anything “will always suck” because no one here (and we’re a pretty diverse crowd) has seen all of everything. One can say every example I’ve encountered of “X” sucked, but that is a value statement from an individual point of view.

If there were only objective ways to judge things, then we could make easy value judgements, but judgements as a rule are subjective and objective observations tend to be colored by our subjective reactions.

To my wife, Horror films will always suck – end of discussion. No amount of intellectualizing or discussion will change that opinion. I’ve also always believed things need to be evaluated within their own context (sort of an artistic version of moral relativism). You can’t compare say Birdman of Alcatraz to Chained Heat. They have similar elements, but are different things, made for different reasons. Each sets out with a different goal and at the end, how well it is acheived depends ultimately on the individuals understanding of that goal. How much it “sucks” is purely an emotional reaction that presumes no critical observation or evaluation of the work.
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Wayne’s World, Wayne’s World! Party Time, excellent!

And Blues Brothers.

Well eventually, all main characters die, except immortal ones. So we never know unless the advertising spoils it.

Musical science-fiction epics - Yes, Yes, I know, none have been made yet, but we all know it is only a matter of time and yes, it will suck.

Yes they have, with mixed results.

I beg to differ on that. Lord of the Rings was a spectacular adaptation of the novel, even if it did have some alterations it was about as faithful as anybody could expect a movie adaptation to get.

In addition to the many quality teen flicks already listed upthread, I add Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Clueless.