Those words are in English.
Beyond that, I got nothing.
Okay … You’re not talking about movies anymore, are you?
What else do the voices tell you about “liberalism?”
(And as a disclaimer, I do not participate in political / cultural debates on this board because my natural inclination is a little to the right of Tomás de Torquemada.)
Doesn’t seem to have anything to do with Training Day either.
Conservatives would advocate training cops to become bribe-taking, drug-dealing, colleague-murdering racketeers?
Sure, as long as they bust up gay weddings.
But that’s only so they can find a new baggage handler, right? Don’t want someone else taking a good baggage handler away from them.
Well sure, if you go around hitting people in the face with pies.
I can throw this can of mushroom soup pretty hard.
And I’ve spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder…
Don’t bring a baguette to a lightsaber fight, right?
OP, I’d like to ask you respond to DrFidelius request of naming “three, from the last ten years, who are not fictional AND whose situations were remotely analogous to the movies you like to watch” but, despite my lack of formal training (and despite the fact I only know you from a few posts on a message board), it’s very clear you are clinically mentally ill and you need to go back on your meds so I won’t as it would be cruel to ask you to do so.
Inconceivable!
Well, food can be weaponized in the larger sense of using it as a economic lever, as has been the case of numerous African regimes. I don’t recall any examples of this in Training Day, though.
Come on - I can’t believe you failed to notice that the entire movie was a thinly-veiled allusion to the 1969 Biafra crisis.
Hey, that’s racist, man. Not cool.
Sooo what was the secret message behind Colors (1988)?
Perhaps we did get off track from the OP. My apologies if my writing has offended anyone. English is not my first language. Please don’t hesitate to teach me if my words are not coming across clearly. I appreciate your patience.
I am simply trying to say that I don’t think that the young and innocent are limited to being in developed nations like the United States. Considering the population distribution of the world, there are a lot more young and innocent in developing and underdeveloped nations than in developed nations of Europe and the U.S.
American and European children exist on a whole other level of luxury and priviledges than those of underdeveloped nations (UDN). Children of UDN would be fools to consider that the kind of protection afforded to the wealthier brethren extends to them. Liberalism, as it exists in the world today, as well intentioned as it is, just doesn’t have that kind of power. It would behoove the enlightened of rich and poor nations to see the limitations of liberalism. It would behoove the enlightened of rich and poor nations to see how liberalism doesn’t extend to everyone in the world. Wishful thinking is not enough for survival in the harshness of the world.
To the degree that these young and innocent (in UDN) consider that liberalism will protect them from their lot in life, they are fools. Whether that be the Bangadeshi 8 year old maid servant, the 9 year old Haitian sweatshop worker, the 10 year old Somalian bullet maker or the 11 year old Kroatian prostituting in the ghettos, liberalism does not currently have the power to extend itself to protecting them. Each of the above kids need to protect themselves.
There is a saying: “Watch the size of your neck before you swallow the bone, otherwise you might choke on it.”
So all I am telling these kids is that they not get too carried away with the message of movies like ‘Training Day.’ An American or European teenager can afford to do so. But a child of an UDN cannot. ‘Let the buyer of the message beware.’ Unlike what liberalism wants you to believe, don’t make the mistake of thinking the fate of the rich and powerful and protected apply to you, the poor and weak.
Please feel free to correct my misunderstandings, using humour where necessary. Thank you.
I don’t think children in underdeveloped nations will get that message from Training Day because that’s not what the movie is about, and they’re also not the intended audience. I don’t remember the Ethan Hawke character being rich and powerful either.
Dear Marley,
I want to respond to your post, but I am hesitant to be honest.
I am new at the StraightDope and, as you can see from this thread, I still don’t understand the culture here. It is obvious that there is a very low tolerance for thoughts and ideas or people that are different than the established culture in this forum.
I will respond when I feel more comfortable and feel like I know the social norms of the culture here at the StraightDope.
But thank you for responding friend :),
Shakabroh
The only problem you’re having here is that you started a discussing of Training Day and the things you’re saying really have nothing whatsoever to do with the movie. If you’d started a discussion of your views on liberalism or whatever, I am sure you’d still have some people disagreeing, but people might be less exasperated.
Marley,
Fair enough. I appreciate your politeness and your kindness in explaining.
As a clueless newbie…allow me to ask you some questions:
So without explicitly stating that there is a connection between the movie Training Day and Liberalism…
If I casually felt like I saw some parallels…and thought that the StraightDope forum would be a cool place to discuss it, and wanted to have an entertaining yet civilized discussion, what would be a good way for me approach and initiate such a discussion without risking serving as a punching bag for someone having a bad day?