But the DVD is worth it for the outtake in which Jeremy Irons is shown having pretty much that precise response himself.
OK, it’s romantic pap and a generally bad movie. Why does it weigh heavy enough on your mind for you to hate it?
12 Angry Men always leaves me increasingly disquieted. I’m not sure if it’s the “message,” or just Henry Fonda’s smarmy performance. Or both.
The whole morality subtext of the last two Batman movies bugged me, too—the first one probably wasn’t helped at all by Katie Holmes browbeating when it wasn’t just hitting the audience over the head with it. Knight was a lot better, though. Maybe it was the darker, “you know who ends up with halos? Dead people!” edge to it. 
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I will reluctantly accept that you didn’t see my warning, nor presumably Skip’s warning either, as a pretty feeble excuse for your continuing to insult RikWriter. However, if insulting another poster has become a “visceral, conditioned” response from you, then you need a vacation from the boards and probably from the internet.
First Hint: Moderators do NOT like to have to come back to the same thread to warn the same people for the same offense. It annoys us. And regular, repeated behaviors are the triggers for things like suspensions and bannings. Thus, my suggestion is that folks might want to read some of the prior posts when returning to a thread.
Second Hint: When you see something that you think is a personal insult, REPORT THE FUCKIN’ THING, don’t respond in kind. lissener, if you think that RikWriter is baiting you, DON’T FALL FOR IT. Report it and let him be clearly seen as the bad guy. (Or let me tell you that you’re imagining it.) The way life is now, if he is baiting you, I can understand why: you fall for it every time. My suggestion is that you try NOT taking the bait.
I Am Legend After all the hype, what a fucking let down…absolute shite.
Also Castaway Almost 2 hours of Tom Hanks talking to a freaking basketball
That’s a volleyball, not a basketball. Other than that, you’re absolutely right.
No one should make movies about Alzheimers and dementia because they bother you? Ridiculous. Away from Her was a brilliant film and 100% worth watching despite the painful subject matter. One doesn’t so much “enjoy” a movie like that as appreciate it and admire it for telling about something so true and so difficult in an artful, elegant, and moving way. The idea that such a topic should be unilaterally left out of movie is absurd. They make movies about genocide, about mass murder, about rape, child molestation, but should avoid the natural process of getting sick and old?
“The Bourne Supremacy” and "The Bourne Ultimatum " because of the “Shaky-Cam” film technique. Infuriating, as “The Bourne Identity” was so darn good, and I was looking forward to the sequels.
But that movie was the antithesis of all the others with that theme. JR’s character is brought completely low and deserves it. Even if whatsisname had had enough residual feelings for her to reconsider his engagement, he pretty much says that her actions would make it impossible for them to have an honest relationship. The impression I get is that Julianne bought into the message of all those other films, and that’s subconsciously what drives her. And look what happens.
(Now if someone would make a movie like the Onion article, where the guy pursues a woman romcom style and gets arresting for stalking, it could be on a twin bill with MBFW.)
You sure that was Cusack?
Okay, my contribution: Donnie Darko. I…I don’t even want to discuss it. Put it this way: I asked Mr. Rilch, about twenty minutes in, “Is the whole movie going to be like this?” and he said NO. :mad:
I think he’s talking about Serendipity.
Did we watch the same versions of Traffic and Requiem For a Dream?
In Traffic, it’s not that she has sex with a black man. It’s that she has sex with a drug dealer and pimp who then pimps her out so she can earn the money to buy drugs that is the shorthand. The fact that he was black was incidental (and considering the kinds of drugs she was looking for are considered “inner city” drugs, it makes sense for him to be black).
And in Requiem For a Dream, Jennifer Connolly’s low point wasn’t sex with her dealer, it was “ass-to-ass”. Which is definitely something that has never been seen as Hollywood shorthand for anything.
“Ben Hur” - Saw it when it was quite young. I was furious that toward the end some of Ben-Hur’s relatives (mother & sister possibly) are cured of leprosy by Jesus who is passing by. WTF? Why should they be cured? Were all the other lepers around just not good enough? Did they not say the right chick tract prayer? How totatlly random. Why them, other than Ben-Hur is the hero of the story. It ruined the whole movie/story for me. I guess I can’t describe why very well. But if Jesus was so great and didn’t like leprosy, then just wipe out leprosy.
Again, I know I’m not explaining myself well, and I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone, but boy did that movie make me angry.
I think my objection to it (which I know will never be put into practice, but it’s how I feel all the same) is that I am very unlikely to know anyone in my family here in the United States who will be a victim of mass murder or genocide, but I do know someone who has Alzheimers and I know lots of people who have parents and grandparents who suffer from it. It just hits too close to home to be something I would pay money to watch. And the idea of losing who you are and forgetting the people you love is more painful an idea to me than someone dying. To me, they feel emotionally worse than movies about genocide, and even reading the descriptions on a movie theater website (which is the only reason I know about Away from Her – and is something I have to do for work, so I can’t avoid it entirely) upsets me a lot.
Would you really WANT it to be put into practice? Are you truly saying that you would not want anyone to make a movie about Alzheimers, that it should be unilaterally ignored by the film industry? Wow. It’s a perfectly valid topic for a film, in fact, more valid than a lot of the crap in the theaters now.
Two of my grandparents died of it. That made Away From Her more poignant and meaningful. I don’t understand how, without even seeing it, you can say it makes you angry and you’d like to prevent it and movies like it from being made.
So, you know, don’t watch it. Yes, it’s an awful disease and it’s painful to watch someone go through it, but it’s meaningful and enlightening. Much better to show what people struggle with in an artful and well-crafted way than to shut your eyes, cover your ears, and say, “I don’t want to hear about that! And no one else should either!”
Exactly what I was going to say, with the addition that, in Requiem for a Dream Jennifer Connolly has sex with a black man in exchange for drugs, which I took as the point of the scene. Not that he was black.
Did you miss the part where I said that I had to read movie theater Web sites, and see synopses of movies sometimes as a result, as part of my job? I didn’t go to see either of those movies, but I know what they’re about and it put me in a really horrible mood and made me feel sick and faint and anxious for days after I read about them. If I could be assured I’d never hear about these movies existing, I’d be comfortable with them existing for other people. But no one’s going to like something that makes them incredibly sad and upset that they get exposed to without wanting to.
I didn’t miss it. I wonder what kind of job requires you to read movie reviews. I also wonder how a movie review could make you sick for days. I don’t think that’s a good enough reason to wish that no one else could ever make or see Away from Her.
If you’re going to make this about you, I’d say you were a bit oversensitive. There are a lot of movies that depict unnatural, horrific, sickening things. Alzheimers, for all its horrors, is a natural process, one that affects a lot of people. I could understand if you thought the movie was a discredit to those struggling with Alzheimers, or disrespectful to their illness, and that made you angry, but you just want to deny the whole thing exists. Fine, but don’t take it out on everyone.
No one asked you to like anything, and indeed, this thread isn’t “Movie Concepts I Don’t Like” or “Topics that Make Meenie Uncomfortable.” It’s “Movies that make you angry.” Does it really make you angry that someone made a realistic, moving, and excellently rendered movie about Alzheimers? Would you really deny everyone else the opportunity to see a movie like that because of your personal sensitivities? I don’t get it.
The topic itself makes me angry, because it’s so depressing. It’s not the kind of angry like “I’m gonna kill those guys, how dare they,” it’s the kind of anger like “this is something awful that really happens and has happened to people I know, and there’s nothing I can do about it, and it pisses me off.” For me, there’s no way that a movie on that subject could be well-made enough for me to not leave the theater angry and sick to my stomach, so I don’t go see them and I would really rather not hear about them, either.
To steer away from my personal peeves back to the topic of this thread, I was pretty angry when I walked out of Funny Games, which I already mentioned in this thread, because my dad came with me to see it. Extreme embarrassment will make you pretty mad. 
You are right, it’s just that I can’t stand to watch a movie where I’m automatically going to hate the main character right off the bat. Anyone who would buy into such a premise, and actually think that it’s an ok think to do is someone I’m not really interested in. But you are right, it probably wasn’t the best example for the point I was trying to make.
Yes, Soapbox Monkey is right, it was Serendipity. (Oh, and BTW, Soapbox Monkey, I’m a she.)
Kissing Jessica Stein.
QFT. I haven’t read the original book, but I saw an interview with the author where he said that the book wasn’t about drugs at all, it was about unrealistic expectations. He seemed like he really wanted to say that he hated the movie, but it was an interview for the DVD, so either he zipped his lips or they edited it out. Aronofsky claimed that it wasn’t a “drug movie”, but I have to conclude that he’s either lying, deluded or incompetent: the whole thing could have come from a gloomy day at the Partnership for a Drug-Free America’s writers’ office.
I can’t say I understand your reaction. The ending was a cathartic climax of a rivalry that dragged both men down further and further into their own personal hells. The bowling pin thing was the exclamation point at the end of the oil man’s sad, hollow “I drank your milkshake!”, with the big mansion spelling out “I drank” and all the material wealth within it spelling out “your milkshake”. The butler’s nonchalantness about the whole thing symbolizes, to me, the working class’s willingness to forgive the ruling class’s most egregious transgressions in exchange for making their meager living possible.
No kidding! I was so angry when I walked out of that one. I was expecting a dark, apocalyptic climax and got a load of happy-feel-good Christian pap instead. They basically pissed all over the book, although that’s nothing new for Will Smith sci-fi adaptations.
Which was facilitated by her dealer, a black sex freak who got his rocks off by watching white women humiliate themselves for drugs. It could’ve been taken straight out of a 1930s anti-drug porno (as odd as that film would be).