Mr. Rilch got on Art Bell!

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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Incredible. I’ve never been able to get through any of the times I’ve tried. He asked me to read him the numbers, and next thing I know he’s saying, “Hello, Mr. Bell!”

After a commercial break, and another caller, it was “West of the Rockies, you’re on the air!” Mr. Rilch started out butt-kissing quite nicely, telling AB how he’d come to depend on his show during long nights in condors, then got down to outlining his theory.

He thinks, and has thought since early on, that there may have been a higher power, perhaps a race, such as the Greys, or a deity, who knew 9/11 was going to happen, and let it happen for a greater good. Allah, if there is such a person, might have let it happen in order to weaken Al-Quaeda, and make it so that this one strike, horrible as it was, would be their last. Or the Greys might have allowed it to happen in order to bring us together globally. In another timeline, India and Pakistan might have already used their nukes, for instance. I’m not sure how Israel vs. Palestine figures into this, but it’s a sound theory. For instance, I notice that Libya has gone smarming up to the families of the Lockerbie victims, offering them a 2.7 billion settlement. 9/11 may have been their impetus to be bigger than Al-Quaeda.

AB found it necessary to check him, saying, “Now, you know people who think Little Green Men will swoop down and catch nukes before they detonate are going to jump all over that?” But overall, he seemed like he thought Mr. Rilch was credible. I’m so proud of my sweetie! He came off really well.

Mr. Rilch talked to Art Bell! :cool:

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Congratulations.

I listen while in bed most nights. But only to laugh at the kooks and roll my eyes at Ed Dames. I don’t remember your husbands calls, but it sounds like I would have had a good time laughing at a kook.

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Yo.

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I’d always suspected that youse guys was aliens. Now we know. :smiley:

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I’m willing to defend this theory without taking rebuttals personally (and I know there’ll be plenty of them!). I hope, though, that if anyone wants to hurl epithets like “maroon”, that they will direct them at me, not at Mr. Rilch, who is not a member of this board.

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I listen to a repeat of this guy at 4:00am when I go for my daily run.

What a fruitcake he is.

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Hey, Spider. You just stepped in shit.

What do you mean dissing Mr. Rilch like this?:smiley:

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I’m sure Spider meant Art Bell, not Mr. Rilch…

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Haha, yeah, I did mean Art Bell.
What cracks me up is when some obvious nutjob calls in talking about a damn UFO, and Art Bell just sits there shaking his head yes and agreeing with the caller.

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:frowning: Sad but true: a relative adores Art Bell and probably heard Mr. Rilch.

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Not quite agreeing, Spider. More of a “You don’t saaaaaaaay…” tone, neutrally letting the guy state his piece. I once heard him rather sternly warn someone off of hate speech. Plus, he often points out when someone starts to contradict hirself, not to criticize them, but just to give them a chance to clarify or backpedal.

See, the problem is this. I’d like to say that I don’t like “chick movies”, because to me, they seem to be all about weddings, births and deaths, or hysterical Southern women bonding with each other, or both. But this opinion is based mostly on the way the films are marketed. I don’t see anything in the publicity that leads me to think I would enjoy the films, so I don’t see them. But I could be wrong about the content and tone. I can say that I don’t think I would like Steel Magnolias, but I can’t say that I don’t like it, because I haven’t seen it.

Likewise, some people don’t listen to AB, or do listen, but with half an ear, think of him as “The guy who believes in aliens and conspiracies,” because those are the subjects most commonly discussed on his show. But I’ve listened long enough to be able to attest that AB is objective. It’s his callers who have the theories, not him. Whitley Strieber, another Coast-to-Coast host, is a whole nother animal: he has an agenda and boy does he push it. But don’t be so quick to put down AB unless you’re really familiar with his format.

Look at it this way. Mr. Rilch is stable, and so are a fair number of AB’s callers and listeners. Some callers and listeners are not. But AB provides an outlet for these people. They come away satisfied because someone listened to them without making snide remarks like “You need to update your meds”, which would make them resentful, and fuel their conviction that they’re being suppressed. He’s diplomatic, as I said above; he talked the hate-speaking caller down from his clock tower (figuratively!), and perhaps made a difference in that man’s life.

There are people in America who look up to and respect Art Bell. If you think those people are in need of help, you may be right, but Art Bell is their help, to an extent. I don’t like Oprah, but there are people who look up to, respect, and draw strength from her.

Violet: That’s cool! Since he already said it, he was “John from North Hollywood”! Wanna ask your relative?

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I would like to say that I frequently listen to Art Bell. He never outright says he believes in anything. He puts people, guests, on his show. Some of them he seems to agree with, or at least lets them speak their point of view. I’ve also heard him argue with both his guests and callers for things he didn’t agree with. If anything, he’s just very open minded and open to ideas not necessarily grounded in hard science.

It’s true he lets people put some pretty crazy ideas on the air. But I’ve never heard him declare anything as fact. There are a lot of people looking for a lot of answers for a lot of unexplainable things.

From everything I’ve heard and seen, he seems like a decent, sane person. As for Rilch’s husband – he’s just making theories. I reserve the title of kook for someone walking down the street in a sandwich board, with a long beard screaming “the end is near!”

He’s just speculating. Nothing wrong with that.

Besides, 90% of what I hear on Art Bell isn’t any more outrageous than the stuff a lot of religious fundamentalists want people to believe is true.

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Did anyone hear the show a couple of nights ago, with the Amazing Kreskin and his UFO prediction that utterly didn’t come true? He hypnotized a bunch of people and they were the only ones who claimed to see anything.

One girl called in to report that she saw something, sounded pretty spooked, until Art told her he saw it too and that they were just flares.

I think he really embarrassed her.

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jinwicked: One guy called in last night and wanted to talk about just that, and AB politely but firmly told them that there would be no more discussion until Kreskin was ready to defend himself. I’m telling you, he runs a tight ship.

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Or rather, until Kreskin had something to say for himself. I got the impression that AB doesn’t believe there is any defense.

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So did Michael Rennie.:smiley:

Klaatu barada nikto!

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obfusciatrist, there’s probably a better place to insult another poster’s husband than in an MPSIMS thread. If you have to insult him at all.

Kindly don’t do this again.

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I used to get on Art Bell’s operation all the time. When he was a BBS sysop, running the one-line “Art’s War Room BBS” and three-line subscription “Art’s File Library BBS” during the early-to-mid 80’s in Las Vegas.

Never met him in person, but if he knew/remembered he’d probably be pretty annoyed with me, the antics I had a hand in pulling on his BBS systems.

Then he got a gig co-hosting afternoon talk radio on KDWN Las Vegas AM 720 [station still extant] with another fellow calling himself Ted E. Bear. Used to listen to them during lunch in my car, when I was in high school. I don’t recall them ever talking about UFOs or supernatural stuff on a regular basis; just the standard wash of talk radio politics.

Then a bunch of other stuff happened, while I wasn’t paying much attention. And here we are. And I don’t think you’ll find “BBS Sysop” on any of his biography/personal-history webpages.

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Coldfire: I don’t think I did insult him. I laugh at the callers on Art Bell, because they are laughable. According to the description, Rilch’s husband called in and shared a thoery that I think falls into the laughable range. I would have laughed at it.

I’m sure he is a pretty nice guy, capable of clear thinking and reason. I hadn’t realized when Rilchiam posted this thread that this theory about Grays allowing 9/11 so that we would come together as a world was researched and an idea achieved through rumination and study. I would apologize for attributing to this idea idiocy, crankdom, or kookiness, but I still think the idea has all those attributes.

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I was not offended that you laughed at the theory. I was offended that you called him, personally, a kook. You don’t know him. You don’t live with him. Again I say, it was like someone posting about their kid’s softball game, and another Doper saying, “God, how did s/he ever make the team; did they just take everybody?”

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Okay then. But you could have amended your first post by saying, “Well, I don’t know Mr. Rilch personally, but where does he get that?”

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Think what you like about the idea; I never said you had to accept it. But FTR:

He has a grounding in history, which allowed him to put the events of 9/11 in perspective. Not an idiot.

He’s read extensively about the Greys, and after weeding out the illogic, was still unwiling to deny their existence outright. Not a kook.

And he’s not making any doomsday statements about how the world will end on a certain date by a certain means. Not a crank.

It makes sense to me. And his idea is hardly far-out compared to the claim (not his!) that the attack on the Pentagon was really an inside job.