I’m aware that other countries do have random shootings, but a cite please for your comment that the “body count tends to be higher”. In the absence of a cite, an admission that you made this up would be fine too.
Where have you got the idea Finns don’t have guns. We have guns up the wazoo.
Finnish Gun Ownership Third Highest
People do not choose Mohammed as a name because it’s Arabic, it’s chosen because it represents the Muslim faith.
I don’t know if this person’s name has any religious connotation but he clearly associates himself with the Islamic religion down to the way he dresses. CNN is showing a video of him at 7 eleven and he had had conversations with the clerk regarding the idea of having to shoot Muslims in Afghanistan. The shooting clearly has connections to his religious beliefs. Whether there is any outside plot connected to this remains to be seen.
When was the last shooting spree murder in Japan? I don’t even remember.
There was that nerd in 2008 who ran down 5 people in Akihabara with his car and then stabbed a whole lot more with a knife - killing a total of 7.
Then there was the guy who shot up a gymnasium a few years ago who killed two people, I think. Other than that…?
I think in Japan you get more targeted killings - spouses/lovers killed in quarrels, neigbours killed in disputes, politicians killed as statements.
this morning on cnn lt. gen. cone stated that the response from the civilian force was 3 minutes. the woman who exchanged gunfire with major hasan and her partner responded and she hit him 4 times and stopped him, and she was wounded in the exchange.
thankfully she and her partner stopped him, and the quick response of everone in that building to the wounded helped keep people alive. it is just jaw dropping that 40 plus people can be wounded/killed in 3 minutes, by one gunman.
Normally you won’t be armed in garrison unless you’re an MP or going to a range or something. If my unit were to go to the range today people would be getting their assigned weapons from the arms room, but they wouldn’t have any ammo. Only myself and three other NCOs can draw ammo from the ammo supply point…and the soldiers don’t get any ammo until they are on the range.
I knew there would be some fallout here. This morning at 0530 I was going to PT and alongside the contracted security guards at the gate were the MPs. They asked me if I had any weapons in the vehicle and that was the extent of it. But I noticed that they were randomly pulling cars to the side and doing fiull inspections of them.
I’m guessing that within a week or so there will be an army wide mandatory stress class or something.
Early news reports said he got a bad review and subsequently applied for a position at Fort Hood. Given the accuracy of early reports I wonder if he was bounced from Walter Reed because they wanted to remove him from exposure to politicians that use the facility.
I don’t want to turn this into a gun control debate either - but I will note that since gun control advocates typically wish to severely restrict or ban gun ownership among civilians and restrict their use to the police and military, when this happens within the military the Second Amendment won’t be an issue.
Certainly procedures and controls the military has in place are a proper point of debate, but these are military issues that don’t affect the Second Amendment overmuch.
Witnesses are claiming, although the Army has not confirmed, that Hasan was yelling “Allahu Akbar” while he was shooting.
Not a good time to be a muslim in the US army. This fuck has certainly made it harder for others.
Was it a random nutjob like McVeigh, or a terroistic act? Inquiring minds want to know.
Tragic story all around.
Yep, the one in 2007 is the most recent I can find.
I’m going to point out that the first amendment doesn’t apply to military personnel, either. At least, not in the way it traditionally does to the rest of the country. Seperate legal system entirely.
I didn’t say he chose it because it was Arabic. I said it was an Arabic name that he chose for religious reasons. Both of the names “Muhammed” and “Ali” were Arabic before Islam even existed.
This is not clear at all.
Right. Except for “paranoid,” substitute “factually-based.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2009-11-05-Fort-Hood_N.htm
Allahu Akhbar!
Nope. Still paranoid, phobic horseshit.
In the sense that it’s a Federal installation, so the base commander’s standing orders trump state laws (on gun ownership, at any rate)
Right. He really wasn’t motivated by violent Islamist sentiments. And there isn’t a substantial cadre of others like him.
Cite? 'Cause I provided one for his being a violent Islamist, the latest in a series.
There is, as yet, no evidence that he was politically or religiously motivated. Mental illness appears to be more likely. Moreover, even if he was religiously motivated, so what? One violent Muslim is no more meaningful than one violent Christian shooting a doctor. Trying to use the incident as an excuse to fear and smear all Muslims is stupid, and paranoid and bigoted.
Shouting “Allahu Akhbar” before shooting a few dozen people? “No evidence?” That is the jihad cry from day one.