Does that sufficiently explain my earlier statement? If I don’t expect the accounts to paint a hard world picture but rather as two different finally penned hand-me-down oral traditions to a simple people, why would I focus on any apparant discrepencies? There are plenty of other ways to shoot down Creationism.
Unless they use the “God made it look that way” argument, which means they have no credibility in the first place and wouldn’t listen to anything we would have to say anyways.
A thought i’ve had … even if the old testament really were the Word of God (count me as a non-believer) would he really have tried to explain the big bang, 5 billion years of prehistory, and evolution to a bunch of nomadic hunter gatherers?? They’d have run Moses out of town on a rail, so to speak …
No more so, from this fellow non-believer’s perspective (former believer, if it helps), than did any other oral tradition from the same time period, or later. IMHO, the Bible isn’t and wasn’t meant to be a science text, and to assign it that identity is pointless.
To whom is the presentation being made? Nomads of 2K years ago or biology graduate students? Further, what facts supporting evolutionary theory were available 2K years ago?
Not just ignoring scientific opinion, but misrepresenting mountains of physical evidence, from many different fields of science.
And since we’re in The Pit, I’ll go so far as to say that it’s not just ignorance, it’s out-and-out lies. There’s no way that people spouting this sort of “creation science” BS don’t know darn well that what they claim as evidence just ain’t true. I can only presume they think the ends justify the means.
And people lament that American kids rate lower on science tests than other countries …
Money and power, my feeling. Granted, not tons, and your average creationist minister isn’t a millionaire, I’m betting, but how many evolutionary biologists do you think get the funds to open up theme parks? My personal feeling, and I have nothing concrete with which to back this up (alert alert, Marley;)), is that the creationists who have read legitimate arguments on evolutionary theory actually accept what they read but find they can make more and do more if they hold to creationist thought. It’s a business plan of sorts.
Err… you may be right. If you are, I heartily apologise to Marley23. I did not mean to give you a sex change. I just think of the ghost from Dickens, and well… he was male, so all Marley’s must be male, right? <anime style sweatdrop>
Maybe I am not understanding yours, but if God was explaining how the world works to those old nomads, why not at least tell the truth even if it is dumbed down enough for them to understand it? I don’t think it would be that hard to do. Why waste your time telling them a complete fiction?
This comment in the article is a little suspicious to me:
I know that some groups and parents have tried to push this into public schools, but I’ve been unaware that they have suceeded and that the “theory” of intelligent design is actually part of any school curriculum. Does anyone have anything to back him up?