They were and they weren’t. The probation officer said something along the lines of, “If I see you at a bar, don’t come up and say hi to me.” It seemed like he was condoning it, unless you’re an asshole or get into trouble.
So, technically - yes. It is a violation of the probation.
Arms length. But our heads weren’t really pressed together or anything
Dunno. I’ve been on FB for a few years now and this sort of shit never happens to me.
The problem with Facebook is if you have friends who are idiots, or if you are yourself an idiot (or both) - Facebook will certainly make that sort of situation worse than it needs to be.
I have a question. Do you really need the advice of an anonymous message board for this or are you just complaining about your friend, the jerkass?
Also, I’m not a lawyer or anything, but it seems like “Fred” might have some merit to his charges on the grounds of “bros before hos”.
I’m honestly looking for advice.
I’m beginning to question the merit of some of our posters. It was a picture. A fucking picture.
Jerrrryyyy! Jerrrryyyy! Jerrrryyyy!
It may be just another picture to you but it is actually evidence of you violating the conditions of your probation. I`m not sure but if Fred or Chantelle or for that matter anyone in your social media circle wanted to mess with you all they have to do is contact your P.O. and show him this pic.
Absolutely it was just a picture. Your lady friend turned into nose rubbing incident. Hey bucky, just thought I’d drop you a line and show you I have guy friends. Fuck you and have a nice day.
The “bro before ho’s” is probably the mud puddle your former buddy’s brain is rolling in.
Go over your probation agreement for clarity and if there is any ambiguity call up the probation office (you don’t necessarily have to identify yourself) and ask if going to bars is a violation or if you are expected to abstain from alcohol for the duration of your probation. I would want to be clear on those conditions.
It is my understanding that while on probation any police contact can result in a probation revocation or at the very least give them probable cause to find any kind of charge. I would avoid all drama, particularly any drama at bars or public places for the duration of your probation. Fred it being an asshole, no doubt, but getting into a public altercation with him, even if he is the instigator, can get your ass thrown in jail and/or result in revocation of your probation. Especially if alcohol is involved.
Well, the picture is simply me and her up close. I don’t think you could make out where we are.
Update: Just talked to Chantelle. Apparently, Fred had called her upwards of 150 times the past weekend. She finally answered, and Fred told her that “he’s going to slit her throat and then kill himself.”
She went to the police to have them give Fred a call. When they did, Fred told them “Fuck you.” and hung up. Chantelle won’t press charges because she doesn’t want to fuck up his life. I tried to tell her she needed to for her safety, but she refused.
I’m off probation June 13. I most certainly will not be going anywhere local anytime soon.
Honestly, I’m questioning what on earth you’re doing. For a good deal of this thread you’ve carried on with overdone machismo about how you could totally kick Fred’s ass and he’s a loser and a blob and nuts and blah blah blah. In reality you have some pretty serious issues you have going on that you need to take care of and disentangle yourself from this ridiculous childish nonsense.
You’re even making excuses about how your probation officer gave you a winka winka about being in a bar. You’re making it sound as if he’s giving you permission to be in bars, just don’t come up to him and say hello. Perhaps he said that but guess what he’s going to say if you get arrested and they consider it a violation of your probation? He’s going to tell them that he told you NOT to do that and to follow the conditions of your release. You’re a grown man, stop with the excuses and reasons and just do what you’re supposed to do and stop doing things you’re not supposed to do.
Fred is crazy. Chantelle is manipulative and used you for a sucker. If you get in trouble and violate it isn’t their fault, it’s yours and you alone will have to suffer the consequences. Do you want more things to have to explain to the nursing board when/if you finish nursing school?
Should Fred be doing this? Nope, he should be more in control of himself and it isn’t your fault he’s nuts. But if you’re going to be a nurse (and even if you aren’t) you’re going to run into nutty people from time to time and you need to learn that those people need to be given a wide berth and you need to act responsibly and not allow your emotions to make the situation worse. You’re going to be taking care of people in all manner of emotional and physical states and excuses and “HE STARTED IT!” isn’t going to help you. Stop making your life harder than it has to be.
There is no reason you need to go to a bar, especially if you’re not supposed to be there. Find something else to do with your time that doesn’t violate your probation.
You claim you’re here to get advice. Okay. You’ve gotten a lot of advice and you’ve also contacted your attorney who knows your case better than a bunch of people online who don’t know your situation. Perhaps you should follow your attorney’s advice since that’s the advice you’re paying for. Even if you don’t want to follow your attorney’s advice, stop acting 16 and blustering about your badassery and do something more constructive than all of this crap.
There you go, advice worth what you’re paying for it.
ETA: And after submitting this I see you’re doubling down on getting yourself MORE involved in the situation. I can’t imagine what you’re thinking or what you’re getting out of this that you seem to enjoy so much. Will there be a “nice guys get hurt when they try to help crazy bitches and their crazy boyfriends” thread? Stay tuned!
obsessive AND crazy. He’s a loon. She needs a change of address and a gun and you need 2 new friends.
Look I just called her to see what was going on and I’m glad I did. After hearing what she said, I’m very nervous. I know I shouldn’t have made any threats of my own but I did. All I can do from here is keep my distance. I don’t see Fred going to the police anytime soon considering everything he has done so far, and what he says plans to do.
I think I’m going to back out of this thread from here out. It’s clear that I need to stay out of the bars until June 13, and that’s all that can be said.
And you believe Chantelle because??? She’s already proven herself to be a 1st class manipulator/troublemaker. Why would you have any reason to take her story at face value?
What choice do I have? Think she’s lying and carry on like everything’s okay?
I believe her.
It’s as good a reason to keep away from her as any. But if what she said is true then it’s worth hearing.
If anybody wants some more context, browse through the OP’s posting history (as far as threads he’s started over the last few years.) It explains a lot.
“Well, this is all very sophisticated.” [/Seinfeld]
You’re about the same age as my kids, so I’ll give you the same advice I give them, and the advice I wish my father had given me.
Pick your battles.
Some girl having a fight with her jealous ex-boyfriend? Not your battle, stay out of it.
Some little A-hole you can flatten with one punch trying to get inside your head? Not your battle, walk away from him.
So what is your battle? You’re on probation for a DUI. If you screw up you can go to jail. In fact, you could wind up in jail for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. You have to watch your own ass because no one else will.
Find new people to hang out with, and new places to hang out, and let Fred and Chantelle fight their own battles.
Was this a “call the police cause I think they can do something” - or “call the police so I can cover my ass”?