My grandmother died.

She was 105.

She was my dad’s mother; my last surviving grandparent. Both of my grandfathers died before I was born.

I was emailing back and forth with my mom yesterday. Among other things, we were talking about the Pope, and I told her of my Popewatch thread. She replied that my grandmother had just been sent to the hospital from the nursing home where she lived. And, this’ll sound terrible, but my mom harrumphed, “She’ll probably outlast John Paul. She’s outlasted everyone else.”

Now I get an email saying, “I hope that you didn’t lay down that bet. You would have lost. Grammy died. I can’t believe she actually died.”

I can’t either.

I’ll be honest and say that I did not love her. I liked her more than most people did, but that was easier for a kid. She was bossy to the point of rudeness, very mean to her niece (Rosaline, whose death a few years ago I also made a thread on), mean to my mom, abusive to my dad…in fact, she treated just about everyone like crap, except my uncle, who she spoiled rotten.

But she had her good qualities, as long as you didn’t depend on her. She worked in a munitions plant in WWII, and I heard a lot about it from her. Did you know that until people started getting Red Cross training in that era, a lot of them still thought you should put butter on a burn? She let me play with her junk jewelry, handkerchiefs, and other trinkets, because she knew I’d put them back neat and organized, no matter how big a muddle they’d been in. Free housekeeping!

Once when I was about 10, I was in Roseto for the Big Time (don’t ask) and ambled down to Aunt Rosie’s. She and Rosaline and Lenny were hosting about twenty people. I stayed for the pre-dinner snacks and fizzy lemonade, then excused myself to have dinner with Grammy. Because? Aunt Rosie was one of the best Italian, or any kind of, cooks I’ve ever known. Grammy was a horrible cook, but got great joy out of preparing and serving her overdone pork chops and greasy salads. The Fattores (not their real name) had twenty guests. Grammy just had my dad and me. Who would be more disappointed?

Then when I got back, my dad had a fit because a) he hadn’t known where I was and b) they were going to Aunt Rosie’s for dinner, and I should have just stayed there. Like it’s my fault he doesn’t talk to his mother? I TOLD Grammy where I was going. And where else was I going to go in Roseto? There were three places: the fire station, to play with the dog, the pizzeria, which was closed, and Aunt Rosie’s. Zheesh.

Anyway. She pulled a lot of crap on people. She was the classic MIL to my mom and two of my uncle’s wives (the third is from the South, and can do “Well, bless your heart!” like a pro). My mom says that she should have seen the writing on the wall when Daddy brought her to Tony and Eleanor’s wedding (before they were engaged) and Grammy was ordering the caterers around, when she wasn’t even the mother of the groom, let alone the bride, but only the groom’s aunt. But she was the only one who would take my sister in after she left her abusive husband. (Long story, and doesn’t reflect badly on my parents, but the point is, she did it, and now my sister has a degree and a corporate job.)

I don’t know; I’m just rambling. It’s just hard to believe that she won’t still be around. First she was 80, then 90, then 100 (telegram from the governor and everything). A few years ago, my dad, whose hair is now white, was visiting her in the nursing home. The attendant was prodding her to see if she knew who her visitor was. No, not your husband. Not your father. Not the monsignor. It’s your son.

“My son? That can’t be! I’d have to be a hundred years old!”

Oh, and if you want to feel bad for someone, feel bad for my dad. The funeral’s pre-paid, but he still has to pay an arm, a leg and a kidney to fly out there. Then he’ll see his brother for the first time in years…

BTW, her name was Elizabeth.

I’m sorry for your loss, Rilchiam. She sounds like quite a character and quite a presence in your life. Peace to you and your family.

I’m so sorry you lost your grandmother. But Holy Crap! 105! That is absolutely amazing!

All babies and wise old women are automatically forgiven, for babies have naught required of them, and wise old women have already done much more over the years than anyone could expect.

My grandmother died at 113, still alert and bossy and miserable and inexplicably (given her personality) well-loved. As I get older, I begin to find meaning in the inexplicable. I think if you examine your feelings toward her, you’ll find some love there, much as I did (much to my surprise).

I’m sorry for your loss, and may you find comfort in your memories of her and in others who love you.

Great post, Ril. I know what you mean about not believing she won’t be around. I still think of calling my dad to tell him things, but he’s been gone nearly seven years. And mom too, who died 2½ weeks ago. My condolences to you, and especially your father.

My last great-grandparent lived to 102. It does seem that they’ll just go on forever by then, doesn’t it? She was a certifiable old lady when I was born!

My condolences to you and yours.

105–wow! My grandma is 96, and I think she could easily make it to 100 (but maybe not 105).

King of Soup, your grandma sounds a lot like mine–bossy, alert, and also a little stubborn and territorial (she doesn’t like any of her neighbors). On a good day, her mind is still sharper than mine–her memory is amazing.

Rilchiam, my sympathy to you and your family.

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I am so sorry to hear your news and sorry to hear of your loss. Sending supporting thoughts your way.

Rilchiam I’m so sorry for your loss. Prayers and good healing thoughts are head to you and your family. 105 is incredible. 113, even more incredible King of Soup.

I attended a funeral two weeks ago for a lady who was 102 and a half years old. The funeral was two and a half hours long! Obviously, when you live that long you get to have a lot said about you at your funera.

I wish you and your family peace and strength Rilchiam.

Thank you all for your kind words.

One thing I forgot to mention in my OP is that she also outlived all her childhood friends. I remember her telling me that the last of her bridesmaids had passed on. The local baker and deli owner are both long gone, though the shops are still open. Even the people from the senior citizens center are mostly people who reached retirement age while she was a member in long standing! It’ll be a small funeral, but not because no one cares; they’re just not around.

Sorry for your loss, Rilch.

105 is pretty damn impressive. It is, as we say in the cricket-playing regions of the world, a good innings.

Rilch, I used to do this for my great-grandmother. Heavens, I loved playing with that junk, and I would sort it and polish it. My great-grandmother was similar in disposition to your grandmother, it sounds like. She died two years ago at age 94. Her name was Lois. She could always be counted on to be catty and unpleasant at least once during any holiday or gathering, but when she was at her best, she was a HOOT!

I’ll raise a glass in their honor, and in the honor of crotchety grandmas everywhere, tonight.

Yyyyyyeah…but a lot of what she did was pretty crummy. I’m not going to drag up every story I’ve heard, but according to most sources, she was a cross between female versions of Big Daddy, from Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, trying to run everyone’s life, and Peter Griffin’s dad, from Family Guy. Remember when they flashed back to Peter and Lois’s wedding, and below the sign on the car that said, “Just Married”, Peter’s dad had added, “To a Protestant Whore”.

Except with Grammy, it wasn’t Catholic vs. Protestant, it was Italian vs. Everybody Else. Madeleine told me about how, at my parents’ wedding, Grammy said, more than once, “I can’t believe he’s marrying a POLISH girl!” And my mom’s not even Polish; she’s Slovak! “I told her Slo-vak. From Czech-o-slo-va-ki-a,” my mom always said. But Grammy was one of those who’s wont to interpret things her way, and her way only. All those weird little countries to the right of the boot? They’re all Poland.

And I already said she was abusive to my dad. I don’t mean the strap; I haven’t heard of his getting spanked in situations where a reasonable parent wouldn’t. Just a lot of arcane punishments, designed to make him feel small. So I’m just glad I don’t have to speak at the funeral, because it would be hard for me to overlook that.

True, but as I said in the OP, it’s easier for me to have positive memories of her because I only knew her in later years, when she was more mellow.

Thank you. But as I said, it’s not me who needs comfort; it’s my dad. I’ll be sure to be there for him.