Why don’t you piece it together and email me, so we don’t interrupt Homer’s lil pity party, hmmm?
I’m sure Homer won’t mind it, vv. But as said, it’s pretty obvious. Let me add a few simple pointers though. I’m not even gonna post quotes or links, this just had to do it:
- People holding a door are never friendly;
- A good default attitude is a suspicious, skeptical one;
- If someone lists 4 problems, they are all interrelated and can be solved with voguevixens magic wand of logic.
Give me a fucking break. And the last thing I want in my inbox is more garbage, so don’t bother taking it to e-mail.
Homer, you are one hell of an amusing writer. Have you ever thought of doing a newspaper column?
Goddamit. Not HOLDING, OPENING!!! Why can’t you keep it straight?! (JOKE!!!)
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Yes from a female standpoint. Many rapists use implied trust to take advantage of you. All women know this (or should). I’m sure I’d feel differently in a country with less violent crime (i.e yours) but this is a reality that American women have to live with. I even specified that this didn’t necessacarily mean to be rude. If you don’t agree you may wish to read “The Gift of Fear” by Gavin deBecker or visit his website at http://www.gavindebecker.com
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Ooookay. I just don’t get what you’re trying to accomplish here. My life is pretty sweet. I get to sit at home and play on the computer all day. Go out for drinks with SeaDiver and the other Bay Area people. I have a loving husband who takes me to Las Vegas and Reno and tells me how much he likes my cooking. I have a wonderful kitty cat that curls up on my lap while I read. I just get tired of unproductive moaning, and offered some suggestions in a non-sugarcoated manner. If he was looking for hugs and kisses, he should’ve posted in MPSIMS or the Fathom board.
I don’t know what’s bothering you so much, since as far as I can remember I’ve never said anything to you personally. If there’s something you want to discuss with me I’m interested to hear it. I think you’ve known me long enough not to judge me by three posts, it must be something else.
and she treated me with respect, kindness, compassion, and gentle understanding. I don’t think your characterization of her is accurate at all, Coldie, and I wish you would reconsider your words.
And I too think that “a good default attitude is a suspicious, skeptical one”. However, I am not strong enough to keep that attitude as often as I would like. 
Kids, do you think we could try to stay on task here? We’re supposed to be dumping on Homer.
Exactly…If you’re going to dump on me, the least you can do is give me my own thread!
Anth, I love you to death, but Coldie’s right.
As if MY opinion is worth anything, like many of us VV has been a little testy lately, but it hasn’t been Pitworthy. Maybe some other time somebody could explain why friends should feel a need to do this to each other in such a nasty manner. For now, let’s get back to work.
Homer, you whiney piece of shit… 
And has Homer been suitably chastened by all this? I think so because he hasn’t responded to the attacks. Or he might be starting his new job at McDonalds. Or he’s dead to the world at some frat party, but that’s never stopped him from posting before.
Not that I should judge anyone, but Vogue, you have a tendency to come across as highly bitter, judgemental and sarcastic. Coldfire is telling you to pull the stick out of your ass and try to be a bit more objective constructive.
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Homer, try to find a way around going in debt. If you look hard enough you will find a job man.
I’m not sure if you’re old enough but why not become a bartender. I have a few bartender friends that work only a few nights a week and average $200 per night in tips.
Vogue,
You and I have had a rocky past and for the most part I agree with what you initially said if not how you said it. However I do take this to task:
The problem with people that think their lives are so damned rosy (as the picture you painted here) is, sometimes you come off looking like a pompous ass.
You sit at the computer all day, go for drinks and look forward for your hubby to come home and chow down on your cooking. Great, but what you call unproductive moaning can be healing for others if they have a place to vent. If that’s on a message board or with a best friend, venting is not unproductive. It gets the issues out in the open and starts the step towards working towards a solution to problems they are running up against.
Come on Vogue, don’t tell me you don’t have a whine or two that you discuss with your friends that isn’t of cosmic proportions? To sit back and give this idea that Homer’s problems are so little and he should not have any right to discuss his problems (meaning the way you came across in your post) is just mean. Homer sees these problems as real problems regardless if they mean anything to you or not.
This post also goes out to other people in this thread that got harsh on Homer’s ass. I understand this “is the Pit” but sheesh, why can’t people use some compassion once in a while rather than climbing all over the OP? If your friend or coworker came up to you and said a similar thing would you jump all over his ass or would you sit back and give him some constructive advice? There are humans behind these posts damnit.
Look people, if someone is feeling that the world sucks, having a safe place to vent it is a good thing. Those problems may not seem like a big deal to you but when the pressure is on, the person dealing with the issues at hand (when they vent) are obviously in need of some help, in a constructive manner. Oh and just because it’s the Pit doesn’t mean that one should leave any sense of decency one has when entering here. A flame is one thing, a bitch about life’s problems is entirely different. Learn the difference.
I also realize his life could be worse. Homer could have been diagnosed with a disease or family member or friend just died. Yes, I agree, he needs to get off his butt and work through the issues but fucking A, where is the compassion that you would extend to someone face-to-face? You may not feel it in your heart but face-to-face most people will at least be kind.
Oh, and please leave Fathom out of this.
Homer, take out the shitty parts of the critisms above and you have what I would say. Take it one step at a time. Look for a job, don’t expect to getting your dream job just yet. Once you get that job, whatever it is, you can start to get out of financial problems. A lot of us out there have been in similar circumstances if not worse.
Don’t worry about your past work, play it up in an interview.
Most of all, it does get better. If it didn’t our world would be short about 5 billion people.
So get off your butt, get out those resumes and be your best sales rep – meaning sell yourself to those potential employers.
< off her soap box now >
Ahhh, man, that sucks Homer!
I had the same problem when I was in college.
Man, it sucked.
I was in a fraternity. All the officers were these richbitch kids whose mommy and daddy paid for everything, and even sent them an allowance. I went with one of my “brothers” one day to deposit his allowance check, and it was 400 bucks. No big deal, sez I, until he doesn’t deposit it, he just cashes it and spends it all on a VCR and some other crap at Circuit City. I ask him what the hell? And he says
“Ahh, man, it’s cool. I’ll get another one next week…”
Holy fuck! And these bastards would whine that I had to work instead of going to meetings and hanging out and doing all kinds of other stupid shit. They had all kinds of cool shit: new computers, new cars that never broke down, new nice lookin’ clothes, TV’s, VCR’s, Game systems, couches, and all kinds of other shit.
I had to work a full time job. I was taking 18 hours. It sucked.
Anyway, just so you know, don’t give up. What you need to do is get A job. Just any ol’ job, who cares.
Is there a Sears near you? Can you work in the warehouse? They’re usually pretty flexible.
Can you do tech support? [shudder] I know it sucks, but you can usually work weird hours, and it usually pays decently.
Can you get a job as a clerk in a video store? They’re usually open pretty late and you just kick back and do nothing, mostly.
Anyway, my point is this: just get any job. It doesn’t matter what it is. And don’t stress about it. Joe jobs are a dime a dozen, so if you get fired from one, you can just get another one.
Were I you, I would get a job taking surveys in the mall. It only pays a few dollars over min wage, but
A) something’s better than nothing, right?
and
B) it’s fuckin’ easier to do than your sister.
Think about it:
No uniform, you stand around in the mall, lookin’ at ass, and have your friends stop by and fill out a few surveys for you. Fill out a few yourself. Just basically hang out and talk to people, and have some fun. And get paid.
It’s pretty cool.
Anyway, there are all kinds of jobs that you can get.
And here’s the important part…
When people ask you what you do, you can say “I go to school full time at State University.”
And so that doesn’t matter.
Thank you, techchick. My sentiments exactly.
I was standing here earlier, ready to take a toenail clipper to my eyelids out of despair. I also had a remote control and a PC speaker, and I knew how to use them both. I was not afraid, I knew what was going to come of this. At the last moment, though, my joystick and box of computer discs talked me out of it.
Hmmm. Likely not.
Thanks everyone with a kind reply. I suppose I should have posted this in MPSIMS, the huggy forum, for compassion, and as such, I’m not holding a grudge for the ‘nad whacker’ replies.
VV and I have talked, and she has seen the error of her ways. Right now, she is shaving her head and driving different sized nails into her shoes, and computer desk.
Good evening, and good night.
–Tim
VV wanted me to tell everyone that that’s not exactly how the conversation went, but suffice to say the matter (between her and I, at least) is resolved.
She tried to seduce me, but I’m not for it.
–Tim
Jesus Christ on a cookie cross, when did Oprah join the SDMB? I don’t think VV or anyone was being unduly harsh on Homer here - he wasn’t exactly posting in the land of rainbows and kitty cats: MPSIMS. Voguevixen asked a legitimate question: Homer’s life, according to the OP, is going down the tubes and he’s worried about the level of participation in his fraternity? Yes, it’s important to him, but maybe he shouldn’t use the frat to avoid focusing on important, pressing stuff that he needs to deal with. She was basing her comments on the OP and other stuff he’s posted that we’ve all read - skipping Spanish class, trying mushrooms, longing for a monkey butler…
Most of the posters in the thread have been giving Homer solid, constructive advice along the lines of “Look, what you need to do is stop wallowing in self-pity and get a freakin’ job.” Venting is good and healthy (and a fun creative outlet, too), whether you do it to a friend or to a group of anonymous strangers with too much time on their hands. So everytime someone vents do we offer them cyberhugs and virtual chocolate chip cookies? No - sometimes we offer them truth and the kick in the ass they need.
Homer, you are consistently one of my favorite posters here - you entertain the living shit out of me and you are clearly a smart guy. Get a job. Go to class. Study. Ask questions. Have fun with your friends and your frat, but take care of yourself first. Tackle one thing at a time and it won’t be so overwhelming. Smart people who fail classes are bored = maybe you shouldn’t be in school right now - maybe you should take a few years off and fix cars or something and come back when you know what you want out of it. There’s lots of good advice here, I hope it helps you.
When the rest of you feebs get done with your little voguevixen gang-bang, I believe Amazon.com has an entire section devoted to Oprah’s Book Club and Chicken Soup for Shitheads.
Yippeeeeee, that’s original.
Look bozo, I am not here to swap tongue lashings with anyone, I see something and I call it. I felt that some of the posts were unduly harsh, I called them on it as I have in other Pit threads.
So what the fuck? I have a heart and that makes me a bad person? Okay, fine. If having a heart makes me a horrible person then I am more than happy to be that horrible person that tries to help others.
Fer God’s sakes, it really is a sad world when the world has to be so God-damned harsh when it comes to a fellow board member reaching out for help and his only fault was that he posted it in The Pit. Well I for one think that people need to take The Pit and use it for venting…personally, a thread like this and many others I have seen in MPSIMS belong in The Pit, not in MPSIMS because it’s not mundane to them nor is it pointless. It is about venting about life’s shitty aspects.
Having shitty things happen (depending on the circumstances and the post) do belong in The Pit. This one happened to fit perfectly in The Pit as far as I am concerned.
So fuck you and your Oprah analogy, I am more than content in being a bitch when I see it is warranted, this is not one of those threads.
Techchick,
I started writing my post before Homer chimed back in, and after reading them I’m sorry I said anything at all - no need to open a closed matter. I saw a bunch of people hijacking the thread to dump on someone that had pissed them off in other threads - even though she was saying the exact same thing as everyone else. I didn’t read the other threads - normally I couldn’t pick Miss Vixen out of a paper bag filled with Dopers with multiple V’s in their names - so y’all could be right, but taken out of context the attacks on her were truly bizarre -Coldfire’s initial post was one of the meanest things I’ve ever read, ever - not designed to mock, or “flame”, but designed to hurt feelings. Falcon, WTF? “He’s right!”
And yeah, the Oprah analogy is overused. Maybe this will suit your needs better.
Homer life could be worse, you could be living on the streets, with nobody giving a shit if your dead or alive. Or you could be dead. That’s about as worse as it could get.
You could do side jobs for people. I know I would rather a shade tree mechanic work on my vehicles sometimes, they don’t rip you off so bad.
Your young yet and wait till you get married if you think you have it bad now. 
Sounds like you just need to pull yourself up and get motivated. Find what really interests you and go for it. Good Luck.
[gritting teeth]I’m very unhappy by what I am seeing here about VV, but I’m not going to say anything more because at this point no matter what I say it’s going to alienate one person, or another, that I really respect and like a lot.
I’m only going to post again on it if there is a gratuitous attack on her. Just like I would for a great many people.
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Homer? The only thing I would suggest is if you are afraid of people saying, as you put it, “Eww, you work where?” then I submit that you are not hungry enough for money.
I took a job delivering pizzas to pay my whole way through school, and I did get some shit from fucking worthless piles of steaming fucking dog puke along the lines of “Oh! You’re a pizza girl! You suck!”
Yeah, but even though I had some bad times in it, I had a job that fit perfectly around school, and paid a net, take-home of between $7 and $12 per hour.
I know you are really proud of the work you put in your car. Will you run up miles on your car? Fuck yes, you will - I added more than 250,000 on one car alone, and “used up” three of them over the 4 years. I thought my car that I had when I was 19 was something I was always going to keep. Instead, I sacrificed it so I could go to college, get a great job, and although I normally post in vague terms let me state this fact, without bragging - I could write a fucking check for a Viper and not even worry about my balance afterwards. That’s what my old cars enabled me to do, by their sacrifice.
In a typical Friday or Saturday night, I would put no more than 100 miles on my car. I would also typically take home abotu $60 in cash, and would have earned $4.00 per hour times 9 hours on my paycheck. That’s roughly $96 per 100 miles, or 96 cents per mile. Over those 100 miles, I would use 3 to 4 gallons of gas.
You’ve posted things that lead me to believe you’re a pretty damn good mechanic - I’m sure you can keep a car running economically while delivering. Me and 2 friends did it for between 4 to 5 years while in school.