ROFLMAO!
pkbites’ review:
Boss: Well, pk, you’ve done an outstanding job for us this year. As you know, the economy is in trouble, and our company is suffering along with everyone else. Raises are limited to 3%. But because we value you so much, I went all the way to the CEO and pled your case. It took a vote by the Board of Directors, but we’re pleased to be able to give you a raise of $100/week, or over 10%!
pkbites: It’s chump change. Keep it.
Well…um…I have to agree with the point that pkbites is trying to make. (But not the way they are doing it.)
Are teenagers children? Well, in comparison to an adult and their experiences, maybe, but they’re observations are very valid. The may not always be correct because of lack of said experience, but their concerns should not go unheard or dismissed. How else are they to learn? (And what are they learning when they are dismissed?)
8Ball, I can imagine that your mum making you quit sucks. I respect your dedication to your job, but your parents are looking out for your best interests, even though you may not quite see that at this time because you are angry.
Is it fair? Well, that’s hard to say. Unfortunately, as I am sure you know, life isn’t always fair, and it is usually made that way by those above us. But don’t let it get to you.
Take the energy and dedication you had for your job and apply it to your school work. That job you have will give you some work experience, but little else that you can take with you in life. (Unless of course you plan on making a carrier out of your job.)
School, as tedious as it can be some times, will give you something that is invaluable. Sure some of the things you learn mey never be practically used in live. But remember, we all don’t go to school to learn the answers, we go there to learn how to get to them. 
Focus on school and, believe me, in a few years, you will be glad you did.
Trust me.
You’re Uncle Kwyj.
Oh boy.
Here’s my reaction. Okay, so your mom doesn’t know it is the games - so she probably made the natural assumption that it was your job. Even if she didn’t, you failed classes and she punished you. There may not be a correlation between what you did wrong and how she chose to punish you. That doesn’t mean that it isn’t, to some extent, valid.
I don’t know - I’m rather biased on this. If I failed any classes, my mother would have beaten the living fucking shit out of me and I’d have no say in the punishment or how much sense it made.
I worked as a teen and it was great experience and taught me a lot about responsibility. I think your mother should have let you give notice on the job and asked you what the source of your failure was. Sounds like you’re making a good step by getting rid of the games.
Frankly, that you’re alive is so incredible in my book. heh. My mom would have my head on a stake.
Hang in there - sucks to not have the job, I agree.
Tibs.
Gee, so nice to know that my contributions to this board have been valid only for just over one year. Autrement dit: go fuck yourself. slap
I doubt it. I’ve observed that when teenagers make money they tend to save very little of it. Spending much of it on their teenage lifestyle. Nothing entirely wrong with that, but it does trump your arguement about justifying teenage jobs over school work.
Also, a teenager is a child. An old child, but still a child, and their thoughts are not as rational as an adults. Which is why parents of a teen have to be overseers of their actions.
Magic8balls observations are not valid, because he/she is upset over moms actions, and therefore his/her thoughts are not rational, not objective. Talk to '8ball 20 years from now, and I guarentee they’ll laugh at what they thought was sooooooooooooooooo important when they were teenagers. We all do. Even me.
And compared to a good education and all the benefits that come with it, part-time job earnings is chump change, in both dollars and sense! (yes I mean “sense”, not “cents”).
I’m not against teens having jobs. But school should come first, AND, it is ENTIRELY up to parents as to the actions of their minor CHILDREN. Magic8balls mother did the right thing. And by not allowinng any notice, though the shits for the employer, she made the corrective action seem more dramatic and decisive to the kid. Maybe now '8ball will realize mom means business.
How it must gall you to know that in the eyes of the US government, your observation is worth exactly as much as one of theirs.
And, fuck you.
I’m appalled to see upon preview that you didn’t even pretend to apologize for that statement.
Not only did he not apologize, but he has now decided teenagers sqaunder money on their “teenage lifestyle”.
I wonder how it is that I have a nice savings account and an investment portfolio at the age of just-turned-20-two-weeks-ago?
pkbites, if what Gingy sais is accurate, there are not much employment opportunities in magic’s town. By quitting without notice, she is hurting her future employment opportunities. She quit a job, didn’t give notice…she won’t get the best recommendation, and her new employers won’t be as willing to hire her.
If a parent wants the kid to focus more in academics, then ok…but they don’t have to hurt the kid’s possible future employment opportunities by making him/her quit without notice!!!
I didn’t say quititng without notice was the best thing to do, I’m somewhat on the fence about that. I did say it was shitty for the employer.
Let’s keep in mind we don’t know all the facts here, and **Magic8ball[//b] is probably not going to give them to us.
What else is going on in that home? Was '8ball caught with dope?
Back talking/screaming/cursing at their mother? Breaking curfew? Other bad behavior?
There may be something else going on and Mom had just had it.
Then again, maybe not.
I sure wish Mama 8 ball could come in here. She might be pissed at how some of you want to undermine her authority or her CHILD.
White Lightningsaid:**How it must gall you to know that in the eyes of the US government, your observation is worth exactly as much as one of theirs. **
Not true. I can vote. (I assume 8ball is under 18).
pkbites, I absolutely cannot believe you. Would you be asking those sort of questions if the OP was an adult? I don’t think so!
And, anyway, have you ever heard of benefit of the doubt? If you’re going to assume the OP is lying, why bother reading the thread at all?
pkbites, I agree with your stance totally, but you did come across as quite a sanctimonious sod.
Magic8ball, understand that posting such a rant on a messageboard such as this that enjoys the company of all sorts of people of all ages, may elicit responses that don’t agree with yours. You’ll find other teenagers who can sympathise with your dilemma, and you’ll find parents who may be dealing with kids who are stuffing around at school like you. As pk said, in twenty years you’ll look back at this time, perhaps with kids of your own, and thank your mum for taking a stance. Parents can seem harsh and unfair at times (OK, MOST of the time) but more often than not it is FOR YOUR OWN GOOD. We want to see our kids succeed in their lives, to be able to make choices that will not be available to you if you fuck up now.
At this stage your mum is making the choices FOR you, and justly so, because as you pointed out in your OP, you chose to play Tetris rather than participate in the polynomial class. That’s what parents do.
And don’t panic about not giving notice at work. Perhaps it would be good for you to accept the responsibility here and actually explain to the boss the reasons for your mum’s decision…I imagine that he/she would be less likely to use this as a black mark against your name if you 'fess up as to your part in this debacle.
Good luck though. Thank god I’m not 15 again!!
But it doesn’t matter how much money she has saved, if she doesn’t keep her grades up, she’s not going to college anywhere. School still has to come first.
“Let’s keep in mind we don’t know all the facts here, and Magic8ball is probably not going to give them to us.”
Well, Ginger has backed her before, and FWIW, I’ll do the same here. If there’s something you want to know, ask. If it’s your business and you’re nice about it, my guess is she’ll tell you.
“I sure wish Mama 8 ball could come in here. She might be pissed at how some of you want to undermine her authority or her CHILD.”
Um, so there are disagreements regarding parenting styles. Although M8B’s mom probably wouldn’t be too pleased with this, there’s a long list of (generally) inoffensive things M8B’s mom would get pissed about.
Oh, just for shits and giggles, pkbites (what an appropriate username…), how long have my observations been valid? I mean, I was a teenager when I joined the boards…
I am not accusing them of lying. But I do know what it’s like to 1) be a teenager, and 2) have teenagers for kids.
I’m aware that there can be other things going on, and the bad grades may be the final straw.
Then again, maybe there aren’t any other problems. (I said this in one of my posts).
All I mean is, we are only going to ge Magic8balls side of the story. Which is understandable, and which may be the complete story, but we’ll never know unless we hear from mom.
Let me personalize this:
Once one of my kids got a report card with 2D’s, 1D- & 2f’s. This from a private school which, at the time, cost me 5k per year to send her to. One of the actions I did was make her quit her job at a fast food place…immediately! The manager was pissed off at me because he got no notice. I appologized to him, but explained that drastic measures had to be taken. Anyway, everyone who only had contact with my daughter believed the story that the only reason she had to quit her job and was grounded was because of bad grades. This was not the entire story. Within the course of just a few weeks I had caught her with dope (twice) found out she was drinking, and she was continually having a bad attitude at home, screaming “Fuck You” to my wife every 5 seconds. The bad grades were just the final straw. After some drastic actions and a little counseling, her attitude and life turned around. Fairly quickly, by the way.
Now, I am not saying anything like this is happening at the '8ball home. All I said was, there may be some other reasons why mom was so quick to act. Then again, maybe not.
Geez. I did say I’d like to see Magic8ball have a bright & prosperous future and you act like I’m laying a curse.:rolleyes:
It sure is. My first and middle initials are P.K., and my last name is actually pronounced Bites, though in real life it’s spelled Bietz.
Hey, PK, maybe you missed it, but Ginger is M8B’s aunt. I’m her uncle. Perhaps the two of us are just slightly, in some teeny, tiny way, QUALIFIED to speak on the subject. :rolleyes:
Sure, pkbites: if a teenager complains about a parental decision, I sure bet that kid MUST be covering something up, particularly using drugs.
But, on the other hand, everything they say and all of their opinions are meaningless, so why bother to read the posts?
:roll:
Yeah, so Ginger suggested that there WAS a back story (which she declined to share, which IMO is wise, seeing as it is Magic’s thread…if M8B wishes to make us privy to that info, then fine).
But up until now, Weirddave I haven’t seen you speak on the subject at all. So why the roll-eyes? If you are indeed qualified, as you say, then how about quitting with the innuendo and actually contributing something that might be pertinent here.
From the information contained in the OP, I still maintain that M8B was out of line. Sure, she’s pissed-off, but that does not make the actions of her MOTHER any less warranted. To imply that you and Ginger are MORE qualified to ‘speak on the subject’ is a worthless assertion given that we only have the info in the OP to go on.
Pardon, pkbites but are you reading the entire thread? I mentioned earlier in this thread that 'we are a family of overachievers, in response to manhattan’s comment of “You’re seven people?”
It is nice to know that you feel qualified to speak as though you know the whole story, when you have just proven that you haven’t even read the entire thread.
Let’s look at this, too:
I know all of the facts here. No drugs, no backtalk, screaming, or cursing at her mother. No screwing around with boys. No vandalism or petty theft, no speaking to adults in a nasty tone of voice. No breaking curfew, this would be impossible in the fact that they live on an island in the middle of a lake and take the trip into and out of town once a day, all together, as a family.
magic8ball is, in short, a good kid. There are precious few in the city that she lives. The teenage pastime there seems to be partying and drinking, then smashing windows in businesses and cars. However, she screwed around in class, at school. Most people I know have done that at one time or another. Her grades are still above failing, and it will take her no time at all to get them up to an ‘acceptable’ level.
Her job took place outside of school hours. Her job is not the cause of her grades going down, it was her own messing around in class. She pointed this out in the OP. Didn’t you read that, either?
kambuckta, I asked Dave not to talk about the back story on this. He’s refrained due to my wishes. The roll-eyes is in response to the fact that I know what is going on, and that should be enough. I’m her aunt. I know everything that happens in her life.
Um, considering that Ginger is magic’s AUNT, I think she knows what this girl is like much better than you do, pkbites.
:rolleyes: