My mom wants to get in contact with me again

I’m conflicted, and I need to vent.

Quick backstory:

My mother left my father when I was young – two or three years old I think. The circumstances were less than ideal; she and my father met when he was playing band jobs as a trumpet player and she was a burlesque dancer at a venue he played regular gigs at. Though they married and had me, marred life didn’t agree with her; she found that she didn’t like being tied down and liked being tied to a baby even less. She left, leaving my father with a mountain of debt, which he could only afford to pay off over the course of a few years by having me stay with friends of his and paying them a monthly stipend for my care.

She remained a part of my life for years afterward, picking me up to visit her about once a year or so. Early in that mode of the relationship she was frequently with different men living in different places, so I never really knew where I was going to be heading when she picked me up. She eventually seemed to settle down with this ignorant lout of a man who liked his drink. Having done so she eventually fell into his world and began to drink herself. I won’t say either of them were alcoholics, but they ultimately seemed to find some kind of solace in the spirits. My mother was weird when she was drunk. The lout was aggressive, though rarely violent, which was some sort of comfort I suppose.

I didn’t like him, but whatever. It was my mother’s choice. To be perfectly honest she was so little a part of my life growing up that there was no real familial sense about my yearly visits with her, and to be honest I could have taken or left them. I suppose I enjoyed them when I was young but as I grew into a teen I came to merely tolerate them to make her happy.

One year, when I was 15 I think, I visited her for the last time. It wasn’t anything she discussed with me or even made mention of. She simply stopped arranging visits. I can’t say I missed them – or her, really. My dad was the one that raised me. She was just an occasional figure in my life who was making token gestures to maintain some sort of contact, and when she shacked up with the lout my interest in those visits waned even further, so when they stopped completely it really didn’t make no never mind to me.

So I spent the rest of my life trying to make something of myself (and hell, I’m still trying, though succeeding much better than I have in years past). It’s been over 20 years since I last spoke to her. The last time I heard anything about her was just after the turn of the century. My maternal grandmother – her mother – was put up in a group retirement home having been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. At this point she was still as well and fit as could be for an octogenarian; the disease had yet to start consuming her mind. My mother – presumably while drunk – sent her a rather nasty letter telling her what a bad mother she was and spelling out her displeasure in several ways.

It was totally out of the blue and completely uncalled-for, especially given her mother’s situation. As much as I could really care less about what my mother was doing – I rarely even thought about her over the years – I was rather flabbergasted that she would have the unmitigated gall to do such a thing. Having visited my grandmother frequently over the years, I can safely say that I had a far better relationship with her than my own mother, and frankly both her and my grandfather were the nicest, kindest people you’d ever want to me. I was at a complete loss to explain my mother’s reprehensible actions.

If I hadn’t completely written my mother out of my life before, that letter tore it. I wanted nothing more to do with her. My mother’s sister – my aunt – apologized on her behalf for her behaviour, but that hardly excused it. My aunt was one of the nicest people, too – clearly her mother’s daughter, unlike my mother.

Tonight, my wife directed my attention to a message sent to me on Facebook. I almost never use my Facebook account, so I’d never have thought to check myself. I had a private message. It was from my mother. To illustrate the level of estrangement involved here, it literally took me a few moments to even recognize the name. I actually had to work out why that name seemed so familiar to me.

To be fair, she was affecting a joint last name; she and my father never officially divorced, so she can’t remarry, but she hyphenated her last name after her maiden name, and I didn’t recognize this new name. Apparently she ditched the lout and was now with someone else. Well, good for her I guess. This new appendage on her last name had thrown me a bit – but I still struggled for a moment with the rest of it, too.

She sent me the message from a public library, indicating that she didn’t have a computer of her own. I’ve no idea where she learned to use one. Nevertheless, she sent a message, using my full name (few people know my middle names) and her hyphenated last name – even fewer people know her maiden name. Or her first name for that matter. I just never really talked to her, and still referred to her as “my mother” if ever I did. It looked pretty legit.

She says she’s been searching for me for years and has apparently talked to other people who share my first and last name but turned out not to be me. She wished me a merry Christmas, told me she loves me, and wants me to write.

I honestly don’t know what to do. To be honest I don’t really want her to become an active part of my life; she never was before, and I see little point in it now. I’m still simmering over that nasty letter, but beyond that I just don’t really care all that much. She’s my mother, but for all the time she spent in my life, that’s turned out simply to be a matter of biology. She wasn’t a bad mother, though she was hardly a good one, either. She was mostly just an absent one who seemed to maintain contact with me largely because she felt like it was what she was supposed to do.

I could write her and generally keep it civil and friendly but standoffish, but I don’t really know what to say. I keep myself pretty busy these days, so it’s not like I have a lot of room for her in my life, and once again, my level of interest in such an endeavour is pretty much flat.

And what would I write? “Hi, Mom. Yeah, it’s me. I’m all grown up now. Worked lots of jobs, currently have a decent job, a wife, working lots extra-curricular hours to write a game for the iPhone, maintain a couple of blogs, and have three cats. Things good with you? That’s nice. Well, see ya.”

On the other hand I don’t want to be rude and just ignore it. So … I’m just at a loss here.

Crud.

Damn.

No advice, just a hug.

You sound like the kind of person who might feel guilty if you ignore her, so I’m thinking more about your feelings than hers. I’d write back, let her know you’re all right, but don’t open any doors.

Maybe that’s all she wants – to know that you’re doing okay.

Several years ago, my father left me a VM.

I hadn’t seen my father in 25 years, and could not have picked him out of a line up. I had tried several times to contact him and invite him into a father\son relationship. He lived on the other side of the country. He had better things to do. (he was a practicing alcoholic, I am a recovering addict). I had written him off completely. I was a little unprepared for his call.

I spoke to several people about him. The purpose for his call was that he was dying, and wanted to connect to his children before he passed.

I didn’t know what I should do. I was angry at him for basically abandoning his family. (although I understood why he did, being an addict myself). I was angry that he waited so long to reach out. Do I ignore the call? Do I call him and tell him it’s waaay too late? Or something esle?

I talked with my sponsor about it. I came to the conclusion that I didn’t want to know what it felt like to have my father die and not take advantage of the opportunity to speak with him.

So I called him. Both my sisters decided not to.

I was glad I did. It was difficult, but I got to say a lot of things to to him and hear what he had to say to me. We spoke on the phone about a dozen times before passed. I still missed the relationship we *should *have had, but I didn’t feel I had unfinished business with him. And I no longer had resentment or anger towards him.

I don’t know if that helps.

Personally, I don’t see any reason to resume contact unless that’s something you desire. You don’t owe her anything, even the courtesy of a reply. You make it sound as if you were touch with her mother and sister, so if she was really motivated to find you, she could’ve asked them. Besides, at this point she probably only wants to make herself feel better. That’s not your job.

I would probably respond with something along the lines of, “You didn’t need me in your life and I don’t need you n mine. I’d prefer you not try to contact me again.”

But if you feel like you’d like to get to know her, or that there’s something missing, make contact. But prepare to be disappointed in her eventually. People like that don’t usually change unless there’s something in it for them.

StG

My $0.02 worth - that is the salient part of your post. You don’t want her in your life. Don’t let her in your life. Don’t respond to e-mails or letters. If she calls, tell her to not call you again and hang up on her. If she shows up on your doorstep, close the door in her face.

jali - Thanks. :slight_smile:

AuntiePam - I don’t know if I’d feel guilty exactly, but it is the sort of thing that would mildly nag at me in the back of my mind if for no other reason than that I don’t like leaving things hanging in the air. Maybe she just wants to know if I’m doing okay … maybe to assuage some guilt or make herself feel better. I dunno. Selflessness was never her forte, though.

spooje - I doubt there’s anything so urgent as imminent death involved here. I suspect there are a couple of factors involved here: One, her getting away from the lout also would have removed her from his negative influences – not that she didn’t bring enough of her own baggage into the equation – which probably led to two, starting to feel guilty about … well, everything, really. I always knew she was the sort of person whose wasted years would eventually catch up with her. Perhaps now she’s finally clearing her head enough to realize there was a dusty old conscience in that head of hers after all.

StGermain & Clothahump - Those actions seem like something I’d do if I was pissed off at her. While I dislike what she did with the nasty letter to her mother, I don’t dislike her and I’m not angry with her – I don’t actually care about her enough to be either. She hasn’t been a part of my life for over two decades and she was never any significant part of it even before that. She’s outside my monkeysphere. To slam the door in her face, literally or metaphorically, would be an angry gesture and would require that I care enough to be angry, and I don’t.

Frankly, she is to me right now as any distant, passing acquaintance might be, perhaps a few times removed due to having had no contact with her for the last 20+ years.

Also, it’s very unlikely she had any idea how to get in touch with me. Since the last time I visited her, my father and I moved, and then we both moved out and went our separate ways, with me moving 3 more times since then. She had no contact with her mother apart from sending the nasty letter, and I hadn’t even seen my aunt since the last time I saw my mother. She was quite disconnected from pretty much everyone but the lout, really only knowing how to contact her mother at the retirement home, and possibly her sister – though that’s doubtful since my aunt had a pretty busy life herself.

Thus I suppose her resorting to using the computers at the library (and presumably other means) to try and find me. Her mother passed away 7 years ago, and she was pretty incoherent in her last days due to the Alzheimers, so she couldn’t have gotten an answer out of her if she asked anyway.

Also, I only signed up for Facebook using my real name within the last year or two; prior to that my real name hasn’t appeared on the net in any way that could provide a means to contact me. I’ve always gone by an alias.

I’m probably projecting here, so apologies. Your mother sounds like she was unhappy about her relationship with her mother, from the (albeit drunken) letter. Is it possible she’s chosen to try not to repeat the mistakes of the past? Even if imminent death or a serious illness is not on the horizon, many other things can make a person face the reality of their own eventual death. Maybe she doesn’t want you to feel about her the way she felt about her own mother.

If that’s the case, and you don’t want to establish a relationship (and it sounds like that wouldn’t give you anything) maybe you can just reassure her that you’re doing okay and that you don’t hate her (if you can’t bring yourself to say you love her too).

I think that for your mother to be allowed into your life she’s got to earn it. You’ve got every reason, it would seem to me, to feel that you’re fine as you are, without her.

So, if you choose to tell her to leave you be, I’d offer no criticism. She did make her bed, and should be prepared to lay in it.

Having said that, I would suggest that you ask yourself, how much will it gnaw at you if you haven’t found out what sort of person she has become? If it’s not going to bother you, let things go, unless you’re feeling particularly kind.

But if you’re the sort who might second guess all your choices, it’s always the chances not taken that seem to sit in the mind, and fester.

Obviously, I know nothing about your mother, who she was nor who she might be, now. I certainly wouldn’t welcome her with open arms in your shoes - rather I’d take things in very slow, careful stages. Whatever you choose, I do wish you strength dealing with this.

my experience is from Mr. HP’s dealings with his father. Mr. HP was continually physically abused–his mom was physically abused, and his sister was sexually abused by his father (she is now a “crack-ho”). His therapist encouraged him to "make amends’ with his father. All this resulted in was continued verbal abuse to our children (sexual innuendo) by his father. The cocksucker continued to verbally abuse Mr. HP for many years. Last year, the idiot actually called the cops to our door, saying he hadn’t heard from Mr. HP for weeks, and he was afraid something had happened to him. Mr. HP had talked to him the week before. We awoke on a saturday morning to police in a SWAT situation in front of our house. After much embarrassment, we contacted the local police and advised them of the situation. We changed our phone numbers, and thankfully, we have had no contact with the asshole again. Prior to changing our numbers, he would call and make quacking noises and screams on our phones. Hopefully, the idiot is dead, now. But you know what? If you don’t feel comfortable having a relationship with someone who was not good to you–let it go! Regardless of what “professionals” say. Life is too short. And now, it’s finally good for Mr. & Mrs. HP. Hugs to you, darlin’.

Across - Although I couldn’t say for sure, thinking back there always did seem to be a chilly relationship between my mother and her sister which may or may not have been caused by my grandmother (and/or grandfather) favouring the one sister over another. Knowing my mother though – at least, knowing as little as I do – I’d wager she was the black sheep and probably brought it on herself, and so perceived the trouble she got in from her parents for her actions to be the result of favouritism toward her sister. That’s just a guess based on very little evidence though; I’m an only child so I have no first-hand experience with sibling rivalry.

I’m not sure how that would transform into her feelings toward me after so much time though. I have no siblings, and the only possible ill will I could bear my mother would be for her abandonment, which would be her fault, and if she perceives it so, her mistake. Since she’s already made it then I’m inclined to believe that she’s more interested in atoning for her own mistakes than trying to prevent the ones she made with her mother, since the two situations are vastly different. If indeed this is about atonement, and at least to some degree it probably is. She probably wants to assuage some guilt by hearing that I’ve grown up just fine and done well for myself.

OuatuLoki - I fully agree that if I decide to let her back into my life to any degree she has to give me a reason. It’s not that I fear she will hurt or disappoint me; again, I don’t care enough for either to be a possibility, and don’t foresee any relationship I may choose to build with her progressing beyond acquaintanceship. I truly don’t need her in my life in any capacity, but I won’t close the door to the possibility of fostering some token relationship, like a Holiday Catholic has with their church.

To be honest, not answering her would gnaw at me to the same degree and for the same reasons that any sort of loose thread would: I dislike leaving things hanging. Also, I don’t know the true extent to which she has tried to find me – she’s always had drama queen tendencies – but a part of me would feel bad if I made her keep looking when she really has found who she was looking for. It feels a little dishonest. It’s not any sort of motherly guilt, just the same sort of feeling I’d get if someone asked for my help with something relatively trivial that would mean a lot to them and I just left them twisting.

hellpaso - I’m sorry to hear about your unfortunate experiences; truly, there really are those who are beyond redemption. My situation isn’t a patch on yours; she was neither a good nor a bad mother, though she was certainly a few miles south of poor, but there was never any sort of abuse. I don’t know if she’s feeling like she needs redemption now, but if that’s what this is about then I can’t give it to her, because she’d be looking to get back something she never had to begin with.

I’m kind of looking at this in the same way one might look on an old acquaintance from back in high school; someone you never really hung out with or talked to much beyond greeting in the hallway or maybe sharing notes on assignments when asked. If they get in touch with you years 'n years later for whatever reason, you’re pretty much non-committal about the encounter, kind of an unenthusiastic “Oh hey, yeah, I remember you. What’s up?”

But thank you everyone for the comments and suggestions so far. I still haven’t really decided if I’m going to write. I probably should even if just to be polite, but I’d have to be careful not to open any doors I don’t want her breezing in through.

My father and I were on the outs for a lot of years, but nowhere to the extent you are with your mother. We mended fences around the time my son was born, and had a decent relationship until he died. Both of us were at fault, FWIW.

My advice: answer her. If she’s offering an olive branch you don’t have to take it, but do let her clear her conscience if that’s what she’s after.

If she wants an update, give it to her.

If she’s homeless and wants to stay with you, tell her to take a hike, and why.

I have talked about my mother in the past, and how she is a toxic type that I don’t want in my life and will have nothing of ever again. My situation is very unlike yours, however in that my mother actively abused me and allowed her various “friends” to abuse me as a very small child. I have my reasons for never wanting her around me or my children. That being said – as a person ages, she begins to see her friends and family die and begins to contemplate her own mortality. This contemplation makes her begin to think about what, if anything, lies beyond the grave. For some people, it means making amends for her past – which it sounds like your mother might be wanting to do.

No, she was never a “mom” and no, she doesn’t deserve to be treated like one, but unless there are deeper reasons that you wish to deny her the peace of knowing that you still turned out ok, then you do have the right to write her back saying “hey, thanks for the well wishes, but my life has turned out to be far better than I ever thought it would and I am really busy. I hope you don’t get offended if I don’t write often, I hope all is well with you.” Really that simple. Lets her know that you are well, but gives you an out for not replying the next time.

My mother has only tried to contact me in her advanced age – neither of my brothers nor my sister have been contacted by her. I am the only one that was abused, she is only trying to clean her conscience, and you know what? Fuck her, I don’t owe her a clean conscience. I am a stronger person than I was when I last spoke to her, and not able to be manipulated any longer, I don’t want to give her the satisfaction of knowing that I am even alive. I tell you this because while other people might tell you that “she’s blood, you have to contact her” I am here to say that no one – not even blood – is entitled to a reply. If you don’t want her in your life, you can always reply with “hey, ya know what, I am sorry, but I’m not the guy you think I am. Good luck in your search.”

I was thinking about your situation last night, particularly this part:

And this part:

It sounds like she was trying to be some kind of mom, like she cared. Depending on who she was with and where she was, it might have been disruptive (even difficult) to come and get you, but she did it anyway. The gesture might be token to you, but to her, it could have been a big deal.

Stopping the visits when she married the lout – maybe she didn’t press it because she understood why you didn’t want to subject yourself to him, and to her when she was with him. “This isn’t doing any good for Mindfield.”

Anyway, I think it says something about her that she did what she could (however little) when you were growing up.

Something I’ve learned, listening to my grown kids talk about stuff that happened when they were young, is that they have some misperceptions, almost a different reality. They remember daddy coming home drunk and yelling at them, but they don’t remember daddy staying up all night to keep the oil furnace running so they wouldn’t be cold. They remember that he didn’t help them with their homework but they didn’t know it was because he barely finished the 9th grade and didn’t want them to think he was stupid.

My point is maybe she did the best she could. That doesn’t mean she deserves anything from you, but you won’t lose anything by responding to her.

I’d let her know I was okay, life is okay, etc…very basic, general info. If you do not desire further contact then don’t say anything to encourage that (ie. don’t ask how she is, what’s happening with her, etc…). I wouldn’t necessarily say don’t contact me again at the end of this message but if she sent another message in response that gave me any indication she planned to continue contacting me, I’d let her know exactly how I felt about that. This will give you more time to think it over.

Speaking from the perspective of having never seen nor spoken to my birth father, I will say that I would totally discourage any contact. Life is very good for me and my family, so I don’t want my life disrupted like that.

I talk to my mother sometimes. She was more of a mother than yours, but hurt me a great deal more than yours, day in and day out. Not as bad as Litoris’ though. (God, we should make a club. I heard a great title in a book once. “Orphans with parents”. That’s what we all are.)
Anyway, I let her into my life because I know she doesn’t have many more years and it makes her happy. I keep her beyond arm’s length, and ask her advice on a few innocent things (Recommend an Indian author, how do I make dahl). It makes her happy, it assuages any guilt I might have had, and when she dies, I don’t need to think, “God, I couldn’t even be nice to her.” But I don’t let her into my life in any depth and I don’t meet her or see her. Them’s my rules.

It’s up to you, in the end.

I didn’t talk to the egg donor (ED) at all after 1995. She gave birth to me, only used me as a pawn against my grandparents (her parents, who raised me) and was in my life only when she could cause me pain.

My grandmother would go to work and come back that afternoon, and I’d be gone. There would be a note from the ED saying she had gone off to meet my father. We’d all live together for a while, then she’d leave him and drag me back home. When I turned 6, that stopped.

I gave her another chance when I was around 12. I moved in with her and the man she married. She never divorced my father, so this was a bigamous relationship. I woke up one night and he was laying in bed with me, naked. She called me a liar, a slut and worse. I snuck out and called my grandparents, who came right then and got me. I never lived with her again.

I took biology in high school, and we did blood typing one day. Now I knew my parents blood types (both O+) and when mine came out A+, my biology teacher told me that was biologically impossible. Come to find out, my father was in prison at the time I would have been conceived. She confirmed their blood types, but swore to me that he was my father. When I confronted him with this years later, he said he knew I wasn’t biologically his, but I was still his child regardless.

When I was 16, I took drivers ed in high school. When it came time to get my permit, my grandfather went to the courthouse with me. They would not let him sign for my permit because he was not my legal guardian. The ED refused to sign and refused to give up guardianship. I had to withdraw from driver’s ed.

Next time I talked to her was when I was in college, around 1986. She told me she had put my dog to sleep… three years prior.

After that, it was 1994, when my oldest daughter was born. She came to see me, and acted like she wanted to be the loving grandmother. Didn’t work. I wish I would have just told her to get lost, but I kept hoping for another chance. By this time, my grandparents had both died, and I wasn’t around any other family. For our daughter’s first birthday, she decided to have her birthday party at her house. We sent out the invitations, ordered the cake, everything. Two hours before the party was supposed to start, the ED called me to cancel it. I had to make quick phone calls to everyone on the list and we had it that night at my apartment.

When I went in for a custody battle with my ex, she took his side. Part of his speech was that my daughter couldn’t come live with me because I had met a guy on the internet and abandoned my daughter. She had all her family there, including her maternal grandmother. When I left, we had made legal arrangements so I would come back and get my child in August for the school year, and she was going to live with him during the summer. Since his uncle was the longest sitting judge in the history of the county, our previous legally filed agreement was thrown out and he got sole custody. He even had one of our friends there to testify for him: but when he saw that I was there, he told the judge that he could not stand behind his previous statements. Turns out my ex had convinced everyone that I had just abandoned my child.

I never spoke to the ED again. She died in 2000: her husband finally pulled the plug on her life support. She had diabetes (type 2), didn’t take care of herself, and she never woke up after having her second leg amputated. He tried to call me, but I refused to talk to him. I wanted so badly to go up there and tell the nurses to pull the plug, since I was legal next-of-kin. Her kept her artificially alive for a whole month. I found out she died through the local newspaper. He didn’t tell anyone in the family she was dead and had her cremated. No funeral, nothing.

Oh, and just as an FYI: the ex is in federal prison for molesting our child and selling sexual pictures of her on the internet. At this point, the courts decided she was old enough to make her own decisions, and she chose to stay there. We’re getting to know each other, but it’s taking a good while. The guy I met on the internet has now been my husband for 11 years and we have two beautiful children together. So much for the ED’s judgement skills.

I’m sure she was emotionally unstable. I gave her too many chances, and every time I gave her a chance, I opened myself up to having my heart broken again. Finally I had to walk away and move on with my life. That’s what you have to think about, Mindfield. Is it worth it to get your heart broken again? Is she worth another chance? If you believe she is, then go in with your heart and mind open. Be prepared, however, to close it real quick so she can’t hurt you again.

I’ll be thinking about you. Just be careful. You’re the only you that you have.

With all due respect, did the drunken yelling really happen, or are you saying they made it up? Did they know he didn’t finish high school? How is it misperception if what they say happened really happened?

Maybe not misperception, but certainly kids interpret what they see way differently than adults do. Adults do stupid crap all the time, but other adults know that just because you come home angry because you got fired for no good reason it doesn’t make you a bad person. Kids just remember “daddy was angry and scary” because they don’t know how to separate “daddy is angry” from “daddy is scary”. That guy’s wife will understand why he’s angry, and talk to him about it, but what can a kid do? They form a memory of a night where daddy was angry and shouting, and if that memory persists until they grow up that’s still how they remember it.

As someone in a similar situation, I would contact her and give her a civil update. I was just about to the place in my life where I wanted to have a limited relationship with my mother and father (mainly to have some long-standing questions answered) when both of them passed away rather suddenly – one from breast cancer and the other from diabetes complications. I had started putting a relationship back with my mother, and I am glad I did. She had put her life together and wanted to know that I was okay. At my father’s funeral, we all wished he was around to answer a few questions, as in his papers it turned out he had been married nine times. We only knew of four.