I gotta say, as the most child-hating villian in the universe (I HATE HATE HATE children with the fire of a thousand suns!) I would NEVER EVER EVER kill one. People who do that are disgusting and vile, and I’m including people who supposedly “forget” their kids in parked cars in 100 degree heat so they suffocate to death. DISGUSTING!
Not sure how I would feel. To help me, can you give me a list of his favorite albums?
I want this on my tombstone, and I don’t even like anime.
Oh shit. My friend happens to like anime, too.
I don’t see why killing children is so much worse than killing adults, really. I mean, as long as you’re not killing children on a grand scale (since that cripples future prospects a great deal), a single child death would probably do less to harm an active community than killing a functioning, working adult would.
That’s not to say killing a child is better than killing an adult, or good in any way shape or form. I just don’t see how killing a child is really much worse than killing an adult. I mean, you could give the argument of helplessness, but there are plenty of ways to off adults that will never give them a chance to react. I suppose you could argue that a child can’t really “provoke” his own death, but plenty of adults whose only real crime was pissing off the wrong guy at the wrong time (or just being in the plain wrong place) have been killed. I don’t know, I mean, somebody who is directly responsible for another person’s death is rated from poor to terrible depending on circumstances (except for very special scenarios), but just because a child is involved doesn’t really make it go from “bad” to “absolute scum of the earth” in my mind. There’s no real difference between “killed his wife” and “killed his kid” to me.
Not defending the OP’s friend, of course, but I think the “it was a CHILD” thing isn’t really cause for such a reaction without information; the fact that he killed ANYBODY at all is cause enough, the only circumstances that should really affect the severity of the judgement are the means and the context.
Also, insert obligatory Otaku Killer reference.
It’s not too late. Get your friend help, now…
The difference is that children trust adults, need adults for everything, and are at their mercy. Unless the wife is mentally disabled or physically helpless and dependent on her husband, she has more means of protecting herself than a small child will.
And your POV is what, “meh, shit happens.”?
Just throwing this out…
Did he kill his child? There were a number of people accused, convicted and imprisoned for the deaths of their children on the testimony of Charles Smith. His testimony was false and the children died of natural causes, not at the hands of the accused parent. Most of those convictions have been overturned, but the accused still endured being wrongly branded as child killers and did significant time in prison.
Damn, I hadnt kept in touch with the latest Miyazaki movies, he really fucked up his career.
Guess the friend should just have let her keep hacking away at him, huh?
The anime reference makes a little more sense if it turns out the murdering friend was this guy…
I gotta say if some hacked off two of my fingers in very heated arguement that I might just snap and hurt/kill someone in the heat of the moment too. Humans aren’t Vulcans ya know.
And IMO there are baby killers and there a baby killers. On one end you have the asshole that beats the crap out of em on a regular basis and one day goes too far. Or just decides they can’t be bothered to feed them. Lock em up and throw away the key. On the other extreme you got the loving parent thats got so much stress in their life from a hundred different things they snap once and the baby pays for it. Or perhaps they were from Canada, took the toddler with em to visit family in Florida, sunscreen never crossed their mind, and the baby dies from complications due to extreme sunburn.
A dead baby is a dead baby and your scum of the earth thinking is simplistic in the extreme.
Apparently, my father was known by some as a very charming, church-going man. Very few outside the house realized how badly he was abusing his wife and children. My counselor said that for every one person who does kill his / her child, there are scores who are “lucky” and whose abuse isn’t actually fatal.
My father would get completely out of control and my mother was terrified that he would kill one of us. I was too. It was like living with a wild beast.
He used to grab me by my hair, lifting me off the ground and shake so hard that the scalp would tear. He’d throw us into walls and kick us will full force.
He hit my brother hit hard enough as a three-year-old to leave bruising on his face in the shape of a hand.
This doesn’t get into the mental or sexual abuse; those only cause mental distress and years of therapy but are less likely to cause immediate death.
There weren’t *that *many incidents in total, (granted it wasn’t until I became an adult that I found out this wasn’t the norm) but it wouldn’t have taken much any one of the times to have gone the other way. Four-year-old bodies just aren’t built for being thrown into TVs, so there’s a certain amount of danger of spinal damage. With insufficient muscles, there’s nothing protecting their internal organs from the kicks and punches.
At my father’s funeral, the bishop and a neighbor of 20 years said in the eulogy that my father was a happy man, and praised his work for the Lord.
But I digress. Back to your question.
If one of my friends was imprisoned for killing his child, I suppose I’d figure that I didn’t know him as well as I had thought.
That is based on the scarce information in the OP, which talks of people vilifying the character, which suggests it was more than just a one-time-only stupid thing like driving drunk.
Hold up there a minute. There are, in fact, many mitigating cirucumstances which would indeed cause a person to forget that they have left the baby in the car. Your disgust is misplaced.
They forgot on purpose…
Are you being serious or sarcastic? I can’t tell.
Killing your kids in bad. Don’t do it.
Sarcastic. But that “arguement” has been used before.