Either that, or jump him in between Cafe Society and IMHO.
What is that supposed to be? Hands over ears? Maybe saggy boobs with a little tuft of chest hair? Two erupting volcanoes with Polaris in the middle?
A playground fight is when two people get in an argument that comes to blows. This…wasn’t that.
They are consequences, but for a different set of problems.
We started to need cops to discipline children when bullying started to be taken seriously as the violent crime it can be. Teachers and administrators can handle some problems, but when it comes to an unprovoked attack that leads to injury, the police are better equipped to deal with it.
Maybe you’re OK with the idea of kids attacking other kids for no good reason. Most of us aren’t. Perhaps the attackers will learn from their encounter with the police, but they’re more likely to learn from that than they would from sitting in a detention hall.
This is a low blow and completely unsupported
I’m glad your kid is ok THK.
Go ahead with pressing charges, and don’t worry you won’t be ruining any kids lives. Their records aren’t permanent . It will send a message that assualting someone in order to intimidate is not acceptable. Kids need stern messages at times. I know if I found out my son took part in this type of beating, I’d be down right pissed with him and would want him to go through the whole “police” experience.
Good question. I know what ))<>(( means, however, which is the unofficial logo of Great Debates…
Ms. Robyn, treis, if you want to talk about cops in schools as a policy issue, take it to Great Debates.
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Im going to assume that the juvie was a temporary holding center. But fir 10 to 13 year olds? Jesus, they’re punks, not career criminals.
Sigh. If I were 12 again and some brat said, “You’re gonna get busted!” I would probably have threatened to bust her face as I had a thing with authority at that age and perceived threats were taken seriously.
I’m not excusing what the boys did. We don’t know what happened in that bathroom any more than we know what happens in their day to day lives.
The kid got jumped for a reason. Not a good one, but a reason. That reason should be addressed. I hope the school counselor recognized that.
Since charges are being pressed, it will be the job of the judge to determine if this is a minor scuffle or a punishment worth event. The kids are unlikely to go to juvie either way having charges brought against them for a single fight, unless their is testimony that these kids are a risk to others and this is just the first time charges have been brought. Even then, they aren’t likely to do much than see the inside of a courtroom. The hope is this is a wake up call so that they don’t ruin their lives getting into a fight the moment they turn 18 - or in a bar at 21 - when records aren’t sealed and this is serious.
Yes…thank goodness that you weren’t negatively impacted by your assault!
Best wishes,
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If they had just played “monkey-in-the-middle” with his hall pass or something, then yeah, detention would have been called for. Bouncing the soccer ball off of his head doesn’t merit going to jail either.
But they took things to the next level with the pounding. I tend to think of the “What if?” behind stupid stuff involving kids. The kid in the OP was fortunate that the punches landed where they did, and that he was physically fit and not asthmatic , epileptic, or had some unknown heart abnormality; and that the numbnuts threw him down the “right” way. This easily could have been a much sadder story about a boy who was rough-housed right into intensive care or worse. Would detention still be called for? Hells no.
I don’t think all incidences of childhood violence should be turned over to the authorities. A kid flicking a rubberband around after having been told to stop and then accidentally hitting someone in the eye should not be sentence to life in prison because of it. But if his ass definitely should be facing something much harsher than detention if he deliberately flicks that rubberband in someone’s eye, whether or not he actually blinds them.
As a career public defender (24 years and counting), I can promise you that it’s better that these kids learn that their actions have consequences NOW. Hamster King, good for you for being supportive of your kiddo. I think it’s awesome that his classmates came to his defense.
Ever stopped to consider where career criminals come from?
When a mommy career criminal and a daddy career criminal love each other very much…
But the reality is that the majority of punks grow up into normal healthy adults. You can read this thread about the awful things, presumably non-career criminal, Dopers did as kids. A couple lowlights:
The reality is that kids simply don’t have the ability to comprehend the consequences of their actions. Thus, pretty much all of them act like little shits at one time or another. And pretty much all of them grow out of it as their brains develop.
I had the epic foresight to do it right in front of a teacher, and thus received some sort of punishment that I don’t recall. But yes, I am rather grateful that my life has not been negatively impacted by things I did when I was 11.
Seeing as you quoted me, I’ll respond. My brother and I just got worse and worse as the years went by and my brother finally did end up in a juvenile delinquent program.
Guess what? He stopped doing bad shit after that. So did I.
I took it to be a really small pecker between two balls. That was an assumption born of context.
I took it to be two butt cheeks and an anus.
That works too.
We finally heard back from the doctor. Yes, his toe is broken, but it’s right on the tip so there’s not much they can do to treat it. He needs to wear closed toed shoes and take it easy while it heals. If it’s not better in three weeks we need to go back to see her.
No updates on the school front because my son is home today with a stomach bug. (It’s completely unrelated. His sister had it last week. Two days of barfing. What fun.)