All of this would put you in jail if you did this to someone. Your attempt to marginalize an attack because a bone wasn’t broken is asinine.
The people who don’t have the mental ability to comprehend what is going on are the bullies. The learning curve begins now.
Right, because I am a 25 year old adult. They are 10-12 year old kids.
Exactly, so they won’t go to jail. They’ll go before a judge and get the appropriate consequence for someone in their age group. Sensible.
I’m glad he seems to be doing okay. Sorry your thread is getting hijacked. :rolleyes:
IANAD, but I believe there’s rarely anything done for a simple toe fracture except to watch out and don’t damage it further. One of my daughters broke her toe once, and that’s pretty much what the doctor told us.
I took it to be an ass.
And a hole.
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I have to say, I am very surprised by the responses here. I agree with Markxxx that the bullies took your son’s comment as a threat to tattletale. Of course he didn’t deserve the beating he got, but pressing charges (whatever that means exactly) seems like overkill to me.
The attitudes of some people in this thread regarding punishment for a middle school kid are very foreign to me.
From past threads on bullying, many people have admitted they were victims when they were younger. I was one myself. These kind of things stay with you for a long time so a lot of people such as myself don’t simply forgive bullies for being assholes that easily. I’d want revenge, horrible horrible revenge.
I understand. I had problems with bullies when I was young, and I agree it can stay with you a long time if you don’t find a way to get past it. But I also feel it’s part of growing up for many, many kids. If I were the OP’s son, I would be begging my mom to let this whole thing go so as to not draw more attention to myself.
If bullying goes unchecked long enough, it ends with a gang, or several gangs, holding sway over the student body and posing a threat at all times, to every student who is not in a gang.
I’m not saying that because I’ve read or heard some scare propaganda. I’ve lived it.
And, uh, the idea that middle school is not the adult world is a bit inane, as well. It is the edge of the adult world, but it is indeed there.
One of my acquaintances got caught with three guns in his locker- he was 13. He just wasn’t allowed to keep them at home, so he kept them at school. Back then it was a month long suspension, but everyone knew if he was kicked out, he would be totally fucked, based on his parentage.
I started smoking crack in middle school, and everyone I knew was smoking pot or drinking, as well as many doing much harder drugs. Everyone but me was also extremely sexually active- I waited until I was 16.
I was hit in the head twice with a ball-bearing from a truck- 4 inches in diameter- an inch high welt on my head and blood streaming all down my body.
The attacker did it in front of witnesses so that they would know how bad-ass he was. He did it because he bumped into me in the locker room and I didn’t say sorry.
He got a three-day suspension, even though we tried to press charges.
Any further questions?
Where the hell did you go to school?
Sorry- just missed the edit and didn’t see the ‘don’t derail anymore’ ’ from twixter.
Didn’t want the warning. Hope I don’t get it.
Uh, I guess take the questions to PM.
Suxtobe U
It has been. But why should it be acceptable? Just because we adults had to go through it, our kids have to go through it? Does it not strike you as a little insane and pathetically sad to think that bullying is something we can do nothing about? This is the fucking first world, why shouldn’t we fix this problem?
If we look on tolerantly while these neanderthals victimize their peers, they’re going to learn that it’s ok, and teach their kids that it’s ok, and raise yet another generation of bullies/bullied kids. Not the future I want for the next generation. Do you?
I would have been too, if something this severe had happened to me. “Luckily” I was only a victim of girl-on-girl verbal bullying and posturing. It got pretty damn nasty, though never veered into physical territory. But, instead of feeding the instinct to denydenydeny (and letting them win btw), wouldn’t it be nice if the goddamn bullies were properly punished every time this shit happened?
Being a nasty little bullying shit is NOT a requirement for anyone to achieve adulthood. We adults should stop treating bullying as a rite of passage, and start treating it as the serious problem that it is. Suicide is the third leading cause of death in teenagers, and most kids who kill themselves are victims of bullying.
Oh, you were bullied and you turned out just fine, you say? Shame about the other victims that didn’t.
And if your kid is the bully, are you supposed to be proud of him, or just turn a blind eye?
What seems to you as a minor playground fight was actually TWO kids beating up on ONE kid…that’s not a minor playground fight…that’s being jumped. At least a few other 11 year-old kids knew the difference as well, and intervened because they knew that that was no ordinary “playground fight”.
Heh, 11 year-olds that had more sense than a guy twice their age. Refreshing to hear.
Had they thought, “Hmph…just another playground fight.”, and did nothing, do you think we would have heard something worse than some bruises, scrapes and a broken toe from THK? Do you honestly think that those 2 kids would have just stopped at a broken toe, or keep beating him up until they were too tired to throw another punch?
Chimera, you probably don’t realize it, but you may just add to the problem. What do you do if the kids ask “Who is Carrot Top?” Well? What would you answer then? Could you justify, before a courtroom, exactly why you showed somebody else’s kids a video of Carrot Top? Would you want some stranger showing *your *children a video of Carrot Top???
Just think about it, and I believe you’ll see the folly of your path.
Best wishes,
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I can see a child doing this same thing, and it would be totally wrong. If a kid doesn’t make the ball team because the coach thinks the kid is too fat, that’s something for mom/dad to let go. Being laughed at because the child dropped his tray in the cafeteria is something that parents should let go. But being physically assaulted, because some punks wanna teach a rat a lesson, is something that needs severe punishment.
As an adult, what would you do if you caught somebody smoking in the restroom at work, and said something about, and got beat up? Not severely, just pushed around a little bit, with a ‘possible broken toe?’ Would you tell your boss to let it go?
This is separate from trials of life that all kids must face.This is a wretched distortion of childhood experiences, and a teacher and the police should not let something like this get a pass.
Best wishes,
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Sounds like Angels With Dirty Faces (for those who remember James Cagney).