My war against Trinidad cutomer service.

Customer service in Trinidad is an oxymoron, for whatever reason local culture has an idea of acceptable that is so far into crazy it is intolerable to me and I have made it a point to not put up with it. I have experienced it so far and wide and been so chastised by locals for not accepting it I think it is clear I’m dealing with a local cultural issue and not a isolated rude employee.

I will not even bother to type up all the times I have been burned before parting with cash because it is too much to mention, everything from a clerk saying they don’t know the price and they aren’t going to bother to find out to waiting in line 30 minutes at a grocery with a loaded cart when the clerk unceremoniously announces she is closed and please go get in a new line before she dashes, where I can wait ANOHTER 40 minutes before actually checking out.
I have learned in case of any retail purchase of large value to verbally confirm every tiny step of the way before handing over cash, do you have the AC adapter in the box? Are all included cables present and accounted for etc

Pizza for delivery, ordered a an xtra large pepperoni and had no issue raised over the phone. When delivery guy arrives I open pizza box and discover dun dun dun a cheese xtra large with no pepperoni. I say excuse me but WHAT? he tells me they were out of pepperoni the total is $XXX(price of xtra large pepperoni) and I say wait a plain cheese xtra large is $XXX(cheaper than a pepperoni) and he says yes but you ordered a pepperoni so it will be $XXX. I say I ordered with the expectation of receiving what I ordered, not a xtra large cheese. I say I will pay for an xtra large cheese, but I’m not paying for pepperoni I did not receive and maybe next time the place should inform me they are out.

Ended up with no pizza and a pissed off spouse.


Pharmacy, I purchase an expensive children’s cough syrup for my sick toddler. The clerk rings it up and I pay, she hands it to me in a plastic bag and I turn to leave the store and the bottom of the bag rips open and cough syrup bottle breaks on the floor and all other stuff falls out as well. I am expecting apologies and replacements, but instead I am berated for making a mess they will have to clean up. I ask for a replacement and am referred to the pharmacist behind the dispensary, he tells me ?I can buy another bottle and they don’t make the bags. I ask the checkout clerk and she refuses too, saying they should charge me for cleanup. At this point I refuse to leave the fucking store until satisfaction comes my way(I would feel like a fool leaving with nothing) until the clerk decides she can call the store owner on the phone. After about twenty minutes the owner agrees to replace my bottle of cough syrup free of charge, both the pharmacist and clerk loudly verbalize their disgust with this situation and how it is only because I’m white that the owner did that and that they would not have received this treatment.(everyone jumps to race on everything).

(If the syrup was not behind the pharmacy counter I would have just grabbed a new bottle at around the 5 minute mark, I had missed one night sleep at this point)


KFC had a special chicken tenders with special ginger something dipping sauce, I ordered and paid without issue and was then given chicken tenders…without special ginger something dipping sauce. I complain and am told they have run out of this special sauce, so I ask for another flavor and am REFUSED with them saying I ordered and paid for ginger strips not regular strips. At this point I realize regular strips are cheaper by five dollars, and request to return my ginger strips and purchase a regular strips with one of its included sauces which is accepted after I get a manager and much arguing.

KFC again I was sent to purchase a bucket of chicken and inquire what mix of pieces I can receive(our group mostly prefers breast and wings) so I ask if thighs can be excluded. The clerk tells me no I will get wings, I say ok that is fine if you can do 50/50 breast and wing and she goes no you only get wings.
I go excuse me? And I am informed that they only have wings…I ask don’t you think maybe you should mention that before I spend a lot of money on a chicken bucket? She says if they tell people they just leave. HUH!


Subway I order a meal deal which comes with a sandwich and drink, after I have paid I am informed the soda fountain doesn’t work so I will not get a drink. I request a bottled water and am laughed at, so I say uh you need to give me something. Employees are baffled at my chutpazh.
This isn’t even the whole list but every occurrence embarrass my wife beyond belief, no matter how outrageous it seems to me she thinks it is no biggie.

Amazingly this absurdly bad customer service isn’t present in expat areas, there you can expect USA/Europe style customer service.

She is like people don’t tell you about being out or whatever until after you have paid because they are hoping at that point you won’t fuss because you will appear cheap(a local taboo) and if they tell you before hand you won’t be afraid to fuss or leave. When she worked jobs dealing with customers she said people warned her to watch out for white people(AKA foreigners) because they are racist and will make a fuss over nothing and get you fired. She now realizes this is just because the culture of dealing with customers is very different in other countries. And she tells me this is why local people say white people are assholes, because they complain about customer service related issues a local person would be too inhibited to. And she tells me I am probably getting people fired or reprimanded.

My lonely war :smiley:

Oh I forgot to include the experience me and my wife had during our honeymoon a decade ago in 2004 in an expensive local hotel.

My wife’s mother as her wedding gift to us paid for a night at a local expensive hotel the night of our wedding, sounds lovely right?

We arrive and check in, we are given a coupon that says two free drinks at the hotel bar. No in room fridge because my MIL paid in cash, no problem I brought some 2 liter sodas.

The room is filthy, not more than one clean towel in the bathroom and empty bottles and the bed isn’t made obviously used sheets.:dubious:

I take the ice bucket and look for an ice machine, none to be found. Finally I am directed to the kitchen where staff act like I am insane, informing me that bucket is room decoration not functional.:mad: I get my ice and go back to the room.

My wife is looking shocked and wet, she tells me she decided to take a shower while I was getting ice(and take off the wedding dress and get up) and while she was in the shower a male room maid entered the bathroom and was putting clean towels up until she screamed WTF and then he apologized and left. This with the room locked and the bathroom locked and a do not disturb sign on the door. He claimed another member of staff told him a single guy was in that room, so he decided it would be no big deal to just go in and clean up and put clean sheets and towels up even though it was obvious someone was in the shower because he was told it was a guy. Bitched to staff and management of course.

We go to the bar and try to use our coupons, then we are told these coupons are only for non-alcoholic drinks.:dubious: It states this no where on the coupons for two FREE DRINKS at the bar. So OK we order two non-alcoholic drinks, then told no it does not include bar drinks, ok how about two orange juices, no not juice either. We ask what can we get, and are told we can get soda, so two free cokes it is.

We decide to go to dinner, lets splurge right? Order two burgers and fries, burger tastes like a sponge and is COLD and not only that we are seated in what looks like a basement. Told sorry the entire kitchen is occupied by a large wedding pa[rty which not only means we can’t sit in the normal dining room but our meal isn’t heated, they take it back and eventually bring it back hot. A very expensive shitty meal.

My wife is freaked out by the room invasion earlier and all night doesn’t feel lik getting up the usual things people get up to on a wedding night. If we hadn’t had sex before I’d have been pretty pissed off.

We check out in the morning very hungry, hoping to find a place to get breakfast aside from the outrageously expensive and shitty hotel restaurant we sampled the night before.

After we check out the clerk informs us FOR THE FIRST TIME that our room included FREE DINNER AND FREE CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST BY ROOM SERVICE. :mad::mad::mad::mad: Oh but so sorry the breakfast stopped being served by room service at 9am so sorry!

My wife pleaded with me not to complain or make a scene both because of local culture AND because her mother paid for this room, and she wanted her to have no clue how shitty the hotel was. I made sure her mom thought we were thrilled.:slight_smile:

What is the name of the pizza chain, as I’ve ordered pizzas (for student meetings), and I’ve not had problems. Granted, the place that delivers to my workplace is in the fancy neighborhood, so perhaps they do pay more attention to customer service?

I’ve not had bad experiences, other than the clerk occasionally not ringing up a donut, but that is acceptable. Less calories, and I didn’t pay for it, after all. I realized when I paid that they hadn’t included it.

I must say, the street vendors have better service, especially after I became a regular. Skipped lines, food prepared before I even order, an extra basra…

I have been subject to one anti-foreigner speech, but whether it was because I am white or because I’m Latina (Spanish speaker), I don’t know. It was bizarre.

But, hey. The weather?

This sounds like an actual Monty Python skit.

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The whole notion of “cheese pizza” gets my goat. A pizza requires at least one topping, and cheese is not a topping – it’s just part of the base that the pizza is made on. Calling a pizza with no toppings a “cheese pizza” is like calling an empty pie shell a “crust pie” or calling two slices of bread a “bread sandwich”.
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And here I thought Russia was the land customer service forgot. Perhaps it would be better in Tobago?

:confused:

Of course, cheese is a topping. There are pizzas without cheese, like, for example, the pizza marinara, one of the traditional Neapolitan pie, pizza bianca of Rome, New Haven pizzerias have plain a plain tomato pie without cheese, etc.

The phrase I’ve always heard for that is a “jam sandwich” or sometimes “classical jam sandwich” – take two slices of bread and jam them together.

I can believe that customer service could be really rotten in the sense of, say, surly service, or long waiting times while the staff chit-chats among themselves, or getting the order wrong, or dirty sheets, etc., etc., etc.

But failing to deliver a product that you ordered and still insisting that you pay for it just because you ordered it, that’s definitely over the top. Yet grude’s stories include many instances of that.

That’s just over-the-top bad service. That’s outright fraud.

Does Trinidad have laws against fraud?

I’d be shopping in the expat enclave. That’d become my go to location for all my shopping.

Beyond that, I wouldn’t lay down any money without asking a lot of detailed questions. ‘Before I pay, do you actually have coke? Burger? Bacon? Lettuce? Onions? Fries? chicken breasts?’ And I’d do it for every freaking ingredient.

And if they act annoyed simply point out you’re tired of paying for one thing and getting something other, yet still be expected to pay for the item you ordered, but will not get. Where you come from that’s a crime, and it’s called fraud. And nothing is going to change in this country until someone stands up and calls it what it is - bad business.

You may be able to badger others into paying for things they don’t get, but not me. I’m sorry it upsets you to be called on your shady business practices, but I’m not paying for something I’m not getting, because you think I’m too timid to make a scene.

Be calm and sweet, soft spoken and smiling and polite.

You could say this as sweetly as possible, and you still might wind up with “extra ingredients” in your food. :eek:

Best not to attempt to change the culture when ordering things you plan to eat.

The OP was terrific, by the way.

I think things are different in an exceptionally small (island) community. I’ve had similar situations while vacationing on St Martin. I played along, smiling. They figured out a way we all could be happy. Eerie.

Have you read Don’t Stop the Carnival?

Learning to adapt your thinking to conform with local customs while still getting what you want is a challenge. For Tobago, and a few other ports of call at least, my mantra became “What do you have?” before ordering at a restaurant.

The islands hold a whole different mentality.

More info would be nice. How did you appear to play along, seemingly happy to not get something you paid for, but still wind up getting them to do something to make everyone happy?

No, the cheese is part of the base as it hold all the toppings on. If there’s no cheese all the topings slide off and now you just have bread. Extra cheese though is a topping.

These “pizzas” are wrong.

n/m. I’m being grumpy. Cheese is not required, leave it at that.

That story is amazing. Just up the line is Barbados, which I have been to many times, and whose idea of customer service is superb. They are honest to a fault and really go out of their way to please.

I trust that you will not visit Trinidad again.

Makes me think of the Life of Brian haggling scene.

I mean, I feel sorry for the OP, because that sucks, but I almost hope I find myself in such a surreal situation, since it’s such a good story.