My wife is leaving me for another woman...

Proper nutrition did wonders for my depression. Taking supplements that give essential fatty acids, building blocks and methyl donors mostly cured mine. I don’t know if you’d want to try but if you do at least you can say you attempted something new for your mood. You can’t realistically deprive your brain of the chemicals it needs to function effectively and not get depressed, especially if you are genetically prone to depression it and you have a bad event happen.

What worked for me was

100mg a day of DL-phenylalanine (DLPA) (building block chemical)
1.5g a day of Trimethylglycine (TMG) (methyl donor)
1 tablespoon a day of flaxseed oil (EFA provider)

These drugs are pretty cheap and I think pretty effective (I used to rate in the bottom 15% percent of people on mood tests, now I rate around the 70%), if you want more info or just want to try something new you can email me to talk more about it.

Screw that, my email address in my profile sucks, I don’t use it and its deactivated now. You can reach me at marxs_social_theory@hotmail.com if you want, at the very least its something new to try.

Interesting post, Wesley. I mean, I always knew that poor nutrition could be hurting me, but I never knew it could do it to that degree! For the last few years, I’ve basically been eating one or two fast food meals a day and little or nothing else. Before that, I wasn’t much better. My body must be a wreck.

It surely couldn’t hurt to get my diet right (in addition to the therapy). Thanks for the offer of more info via email. I’ll probably take you up on that in a couple days when I’m (hopefully) a little less crazy.

Its not so much proper diet as much as just getting in the proper chemicals your brain needs to function. You wouldn’t have to give up fast food or anything like that.

neutron star, your situation reminds me of a friend’s, although she’s on the other side of the equation.

My good friend L. married J. a few years ago. Because we lived in different parts of the country, I didn’t know J. very well, but I’d met him a few times and he seemed like a really great guy. I liked him a lot. Their wedding was beautiful.

After a couple years, he radically changed. (I moved much closer to where L. and J. lived, so I got to know him better.) He was diagnosed with clinical depression. L. did her best to care for him and be understanding, but there’s only so long you can live for two people. She had to harangue him to take his medication. She stayed with him because she was afraid of what he would do if she left. Eventually, she gave up, realized that his inability to deal with his disease was ruining her life as well as his. Their divorce was final last week.

I’m not writing this because I think this is “your fault” or whatever. I’m writing it because J. really was a great guy and they really were a wonderful couple. I don’t know if I’ll ever have a chance to talk to him again (he’s moved to another state since) so I’ll say to you what I’d say to him: “She didn’t leave you because you are a bad person. She just didn’t have the strength anymore. Please, please, please help yourself.” And then I’d give him a hug.

Excuse me if I kind of went off on a tangent there. I hope I don’t sound accusatory. I’m so sorry for your situation, and you have my sympathy. Please get yourself some help.

Regarding nutrition and supplements, I will add that taking a B-50 Complex, or B-100 Complex vitamin daily helps my mood stabalize immensely.

Also, any kind of exercise will make you feel better. Not your heart, but your body. Your muscles are probably all tensed up. Stand up and stretch real good. Nothing major, just help your blood eliminate all the chemicals your body has been dumping.

And drink lots of water. Or juice. :slight_smile:

I’ll echo the advice about drinking water. Take it from one who’s been there, dehydration makes depression a lot worse. I’m not sure why, but I know I’m not the only person to experience this. Sodas make you pee, especially if they have caffiene. Also please pay attention to nutrition. Zabali Clawbane’s advice about light healthy meals is good. Toast can be a surprsingly good comfort food. Try and get out for a walk if you can too.

As for moving back with your family, that may be what you need. I had to do that once when I was basically homeless. It really depends how supportive your family is going to be. If your family is going to exacerbate your depression, try and find another option if you can.

Good luck, man. Things are rough and there’s not much I can say that will make them bettter, except that my best thoughts and prayers are with you. You will get over this, but it may take a while. Please talk to a doctor or therapist.

High intensity interval training is a really good way to alleviate stress. So is weightlifting, because either one wears you out physically.

Regular exercise is always good too.

Thanks. I really do understand what you’re saying, and my wife has told me the same more times than I can count over the last few days. It’s one of those things that is perfectly logical and makes complete sense from an objective standpoint, but that my stupid, crazy emotions refuse to agree with.

No, not really. Depression is just such a messed up situation when you really have to work at things to get better, but your energy and will to do so have been completely drained by that same depression.

Thanks Wesley, kaiwik, and Larry for the additional advice and good wishes. I know I really should be drinking water, but I’ve been practically addicted to Coke since I was a kid; it’s virtually all I drink. So I guess it’s a comfort thing. Of course, I don’t feel all that comfortable when the Coke is coming back up. That shit burns!

Exercise may be a good option for the future, but right now I barely have the energy to type this. I mostly just lay on the couch and watch the minutes crawl by.

Toast will probably be my first food once I start eating again, but I don’t know when that will be, since I’m still repulsed by the idea. I guess I’m up over 100 hours now with no more nutrition than the sugar from my Coke. That can’t be good, can it?

Depression also makes me throw up. When I’m in the pits of hell, all it takes is a thought and I’m gagging away. So, speaking from vast knowledge, EAT SOMETHING. Even if you vomit, you will be getting nutrition into your body.

Something with a little protein is good. PB&J has calories, and is easy to make when your world is crashing about. Call up a local delivery place for some hot food, something you liked in the past. Pick at it. Eat a bite at a time, and wait for awhile before attempting another. Sometimes, after being without real food for awhile, your body will react badly to too much at once.

One thing at a time. After food, think shower. Clean, healing water. Let it sooth you. Wash away your tears and doubts.

You are worthy of love. You are worthy. You are going to be ALRIGHT. You will learn, and grow, and help others. Keep telling yourself this.

Feel your pain, recognize it. Acknowledge it. It’s REAL. You are suffering, but it will get better.

Throw open some windows. Fresh air, and light will help. Put on clean clothes. Take someones dog for a walk. Get moving.

Remember, one step at a time.

Sending warm fuzzies and a clap on the back

Been down this road myself, and this is the hardest. It will always get better. Really. Trust me, I’m a trained profesional. :slight_smile:

I have been there, and this is advice i have to give myself on occasion. The more you lie there the more the depression will suck your energy. Resting will not make it come back. Get up off the couch and walk somewhere. Around the block. To the end of the block to the mailbox. It honestly doesnt matter. Tomorrow walk a few more steps. In a couple weeks you will have the energy to do that and then push it a little farther.

I would also suggest that when your appitite is that little try to get in quality food, the high fats and sugars of fast food are about the worst possible things. You can’t afford the sugar crash with as low as you are all ready.

Even if this advice doesn’t help much, it can’t hurt you. I have known people that could reduce meds with a good excersise and diet program.

If Coke is virtually all you drink and you eat fast food more than once a day, I suggest watching Super Size Me. Sorry for being all nutrionist so soon, but I really would recomend the other posters’ advice - you are probably “coked out” on sugar and non-healthy things.

There was a recent article in Discover (read a blip here) that describes how vitamins are connected to the brain’s functioning. They don’t exactly know just yet, but it seems like everyone is made differently with different levels of vitamins they need to function. What you are needing some one doesn’t and vice versa, meaning if someone’s vitamin supplements don’t work try something else.

Otherwise, try to take care!

I saw it about six months ago. It made me want to eat healthy for about a week, then I slipped back into my old ways. Thanks for the recommendation and other information, though.

It makes me very nauseous and slightly dizzy just getting up to go to the bathroom. I haven’t gone outside at all. Even if I felt physically well enough to do it, I don’t know if I could make myself emotionally presentable to the people outside. My wife is afraid to let me even make the ten minute drive to the convenience store and back.

Nothing makes more sense than that, but I just can’t bring myself to do it. Even thinking about food gives me the same repulsed feelings I’d get from trying to eat with a stomach flu. Thanks for the good wishes, though. They do help.

I felt that way myself not too long ago, and for a similar reason. I knew I needed to eat though, especially since I have kids to care for. I found that slimfasts or other diet shakes were all I could tolerate for a little while, and even the chocolate flavors were too rich for me. Maybe you’d be able to choke down some of those, or those nutrition supplement drinks that are similar? Something is better than nothing, after all, and I don’t think a week or two of eating badly will kill you.

You could always resort to some foods that I’ve been eating the past week (it’s midterms time) - they’re easy to make and they’re easy on your stomach.

Sliced ham over crackers - they sell the sliced ham in packets in the deli section.

Cheese over crackers. Mmmm =9

Baguette or sourdough bread.

Various cereal, right now it’s Honey Bunches of Oats with milk.

I know that it’s hard to even look at food right now, when everything seems to be crashing down, but you need to take care of yourself. We’re all very worried about you and hope that you’ll be able to keep something down. What you’re going through is enough of a crisis without the added stress on your body.

And if you’re feeling queasy when you get up, maybe you could possibly ask your wife to help you a bit in your time of need. Maybe she could make a trip or two to the market to pick up some food so that at least you’ll have the option to have something good to eat when you can look at food again. She seems to care about you and wants to help a bit while you’re putting your life back together so maybe asking wouldn’t be such a big thing.

I’ve done that, where the thought of food is repulsive. But you have to eat anyway; not eating will only make that feeling worse. Drink some broth to start with; at this point, your body probably won’t cope with solids until you get some decent fluids into you. Open a can of chicken soup, and drink the broth.

I’m going to yell now: YOU MUST EAT SOMETHING. It doesn’t matter how sick the thought makes you. You cannot wait until you feel like it. You must get nutrients now. If I had any idea who or where you are, I’d call someone to take you to the hospital for an IV.

Neutron star, sorry I’m late to the thread, but I want to add my sentiments here, as well, I really feel for you. I, like many others, have also been there.

I also found nutrition to be extremely helpful in alleviating my depression. I sought out a nutritionist for help in that area, because I knew so little about it, but a good friend of mine had been stressed, depressed, and on the verge of suicide when someone recommended this nutritionist to her. Not all of them are good, so if you’re interested in seeing one, seek one with a good reputation first. There were others I’d heard about who were so strict and nasty to their clients - it’s what some of them needed, I guess, but it didn’t work for me. I went to a sweet, quiet lady, and she helped me figure out what I was doing wrong and how to fix it. Some may call them quacks, but all I know is that it worked absolute wonders for me: my depression lifted, I slept better, I was stress free, and had energy to boot. She also recommended most of the supplements mentioned here, and others that were for my specific case, and also plenty of exercise.

Other than that, all I can say is breathe deep. Do some things that are just for you - think of things you couldn’t do, or wanted to, before, but for whatever reason wasn’t able to. Pamper yourself a little bit. Try not to go too crazy (by the time I was feeling like a normal, happy person again, you should have seen my credit card debt - woo!) But do try to do some things for yourself, something you enjoy. You won’t feel like it for a while, but say, next week, plan on something you’d enjoy. Something to look forward to. It doesn’t have to cost money, or it could cost very little.

It’s rough. I was depressed while I was engaged. I had my fiance leave me for another woman about a month before I was to fly out here to get married. He wrote me an email to tell me how he was now in love with “his beautiful Desiree”. When just a week before, I was “his beautiful Anastasia”. It still hurts a tiny bit… just a distant pang. And that, too, is what hurt me the most - the emotional shift. This “love” he just switched to another person. It’s not the same situation as yours, no, but I do know how it feels. And I’ll never forget. But in time, I did spring back. It took some councelling, but here I am. I didn’t eat for several weeks, I had no appetite, food had no taste. My family and friends helped immensely, even if all they did was be irritating. (My mother kept threatening to throw me in the loony bin if I didn’t eat something, “That’s where they send you, you know!” Like I cared at that point… but she was persistent. Your family always wins…eventually). So I also think it would be a good idea to go back to your family. It did get better with time.

I hope the same for you. If you need someone to talk to, or just a shoulder to cry on sometimes, feel free to email me, if you like.

neutron star , if you do decide to back off the Coke, as a former Pepsi/coffee addict, cut your cola intake slowly as a caffiene withdrawl on top of your current situation would not be a good thing.

Seriously, even if you are drinking vast quantities of Coke, the sodium combined with everything you are losing when you vomit is going to dehydrate you. Along with a lack of solid food, and very little or no sleep, you are tempting a hospital stay, or worse. I am concerned about your well being. Gatorade and Pedialyte are sippable, and if you must have your Coke, at least have something else to sip along with it. At this point your body will reject anything too solid, so liquids for now, then soft bland foods when you are feeling better.

Going without sleep is not healthy either, and I am the Queen of Insomnia. If you don’t get some care, you are going to be very ill, and not just heartsick.

I know that I am not the only person here offering you advice who has gone through similar heartache. Once the shock wears off, life really does go on. Right now you are the only person who can help yourself. You have a great deal of support. Please take some positive measures to get yourself through this crisis. If we didn’t care, we would not continue posting to this thread. You are in my prayers.

Yes, you’re right. So is Penchan. I still don’t feel like eating, but I had my wife pick me up some Slim Fast shakes (thanks for the idea, Cowgirl) and I managed to keep one of those down. I drank it a couple hours ago and it still hasn’t come back up, so I guess it’s going to stay. At least that’s a start.

That’s something I may think about when I get back home. I just looked up nutritionists in the phone book here. In an area of 500,000 people, the book lists only a dietician at a medical center, and some business in another town with “nutritional consulting” in its name.

It’s good advice, and I’d like to, but I need all my money to fix our old Chevy and get back home. My wife will be helping me with money as much as she can during this process (which I really appreciate), but there’s not much extra to splurge with.

“We’ll see how brave you are.
Yes, Anastasia.”

Sorry. :frowning: Your post got this stuck in my head. But that did give me the urge to listen to it, so I guess I’m making a little bit of progress if I can start to give music a chance again.

Thank you; I might just do that. I have very few people to talk to, and none of them understand what it’s like to live life feeling like you just got hit by a car, and then get hit by a train. It’s just this surreal kind of misery overload. And even though the regular depression made me shier and quieter as it got worse, this weird hyper-sadness often gives me the urge to talk.

Thanks. Your post made me smile a little, and I don’t get to do that too much lately. Sorry I couldn’t think of a less corny way to phrase this, but your concern is really touching. I’m going to pick up some sports drinks tomorrow (well, later today, I mean) and try to cut my Coke intake a little bit. I may or may not eat some solid foods today, but at least I can tolerate the Slim Fast if I can’t.

Also, my initial consult with my (likely temporary) therapist is later this morning, so hopefully some good will come of that.

See, the initial shock is wearing off, and you are getting it together. I do understand exactly what you are feeling. I am not going to hijack your thread, and perhaps I will someday share that particular episode of my journey through life with the forum, but believe me, I know.

My concern is genuine, and I am glad you feel that. Some very close friendships are made through forums like this, and I have both received and given support in internet communities very like this one. Just because we don’t chat over the backyard fence while hanging the wash out to dry does in no way lessen the honest caring for those we meet and interact with online.

I am so sorry you are going through this, but you have to bend like a willow if you are going to survive the storm. I believe in you.

Take care of yourself, damnit. (my not-so-inner-mom coming out) :smiley: