My wife is leaving me for another woman...

Neutron Star, you might want to consider checking yourself into the hospital. The reason I say that is that you will be monitored 24/7 for all kinds of things from nutrition to behaviors to problem solving, exercise, talk therapy and medication. You will begin learning HOW to use the tools that will help you get well. You will see people who have the same illness start to get better, which will encourage you to actually DO the work rather than just sitting there in your house thinking about it. I know how hard it is to actually take the steps you need to take to get well. The controlled environment forces you to take an active role in your recovery.

I wish you the best of luck.

After weeks of 'um’ing and 'ah’ing about joining the SDMB, your posts have finally driven me to take the plunge, Neutron Star.

I just thought I’d let you know that even from outside the community, you had my well-wishes and thoughts. I’ve not been through the exact situation that you’re going through, but I’ve felt the sting and sudden jerk of what I thought to be a ‘forever’ type of love being switched to another party without a warning.

You’ve got my thoughts and prayers, and I wish you the best of luck in helping get yourself over this. You will get through it all…

Neutron Star, I endorse much of the good advice given to you re counselling, diet, exercise, medication etc.

Another thing worth keeping hold of is that just time on its own will help you if you let it.

You definitely won’t feel as bad as this in a month or a year. Trust me.

Very best of luck. Hang in there.

HUG

I’m sorry this is happening to you. I hope things get better soon.

Well, I saw my temp therapist this morning and came away convinced that she’d be a temp even if I wasn’t moving away. It was like she figured out fifty different ways to phrase the old adage, “Every dark cloud has a silver lining,” and spent the whole damn time rattling them off to me, one by one.

She’d ask for information, then interrupt me in the middle of my answer. She interrupted me several times, in fact. I didn’t feel terribly comfortable talking to her and I was bored out of my mind listening to her. Also, not to sound mean or anything, but I got the very distinct impression that this lady isn’t terribly bright.

It’s kind of funny; there wasn’t one single post in this thread that was less comforting and/or helpful than the whole hour of therapy! Damn, you guys rule.

True enough. I guess I forget that sometimes because so much of the time I’ve spent on the SDMB has been in the forums where people are less likely to make friends (e.g. GQ, the Pit).

Thanks, but I think that’s a bit extreme. Things aren’t quite as bad today as they were yesterday, and I guess this is the first day I can say that about, so the very worst of the grief is over, I think. I had another Slim Fast and I was even able to eat a sandwich (just one thin slice of ham and no cheese or anything). Damn thing made me feel nauseous all morning, but at least I was able to get it digested before I finally threw up.

I do have an appointment this afternoon with my regular doctor to get some pain-numbing Xanax, so she should also be able to evaluate my immediate needs in terms of physical health.

Wow, really? Again this thread makes me smile when I least expect it, and most need it. Thank you for the kind words. You too, guinnog. And The Weird One for that oversized hug. :slight_smile:

Neutron,

I’d just repeat what everyone else has said, but I’m another who has been in the situation and it will get better. Get something to eat, drink a sports drink, and just see if you can walk around the block a couple of times.

Definitely find a good therapist that you like. Taking meds just treats the symptoms, and talking things out can work on the problem. I was in therapy for a couple of years after my wife left me, and I’m still on medication because my body just doesn’t produce the right chemicals in my brain.

And since you said you hung out in the Pit, I was going to curse at you, but decided I’ll wait a bit.

See? Told ya!

Joking aside, don’t expect tomorrow to be better than today. Don’t even expect tomorrow to be as good as today. These things go up and down in leaps and bounds. There are few things stable in this world; luckily, the Dope is one of them.

Well done neutron star! You are sounding much better. I am glad that you are getting some nutrition and taking other positive steps toward dealing with the situation.

Finding a good therapist one can connect with is a difficult task. Throughout all the years I have had two. One helped me with my past, and one now helps me with my present when things become too overwhelming for me to cope with on my own. Although even talking to a professional who isn’t the right fit for you can help you articulate your own thoughts and feelings, which is a big step in healing. My pet peeve are the therapists who nod a a lot, say “Hmmm” and ask me how I feel about the situation.

I am reminded of something my current doc said to me a while back. He told me that while he councils most of his patients to try to “feel” less and “think” more, I needed to do the opposite. Food for thought.

My take on medication is, for some people, myself included, it’s required. I take meds for my diabetes and hypertension, I also take meds for my chronic depression/OCD (zoloft) and my anxiety/panic attacks. The zoloft is daily, the xanax as needed. Use the tools available to you at this moment.

One of the greatest lessons I have learned sounds trite, one of those “every cloud has a silver lining” sort of statement, but it works. Take each day as it comes. Take time to notice the little things and allow yourself to take pleasure in them.

Keep moving forward, and keep us updated.

Well, I slept part of the afternoon and most of the evening after getting home from my regular doctor. I woke up about a half-hour ago and almost immediately wished I hadn’t.

Waking up is such a killer because of the way everything feels nice and normal during that first little ray of consciousness. Or, as Homer Simpson said, “Ah, the sweet couple of seconds before I remember why I’m sleeping on the lawn.”

For some reason, it’s slightly comforting to take the worst aspects of this whole thing and spin them into (often tasteless) jokes. I had to explain the concept of gallows humor to my wife because my lighthearted comparisons of the efficacy of various suicide methods were really worrying her.

I’ve also been listening to a lot of songs that are incredibly depressing and/or related to suicide. My playlist includes stuff like “Electro Shock Blues” by the Eels, “Asleep” by the Smiths, and “Hollow Years” by Dream Theater. Right now, “Vincent (Starry, Starry Night)” by Don McLean is painting tragically beautiful pictures in my head. I’m too frazzled to even know if all this is comforting or just making things worse, but I feel compelled to do it, and I guess it beats staring into space.

Now, I really don’t want anyone to think that anything I just said was some sort of slightly opaque hint that I’m going to do something stupid to myself. That’s something I’m absolutely positive I won’t do in the near future, and probably could never bring myself to do even after exhausting every option (including ECT, institutionalization, and any kind of extreme or experimental treatments a doctor would be willing to try).

I guess this is just some bizarre sort of coping mechanism, and I don’t know if it’s healthy or not, but it just feels like the natural thing to do and I drift towards it because I’m pretty much on autopilot.

It’s the same kind of thing I did when I was really low a few months ago and spent three straight 18-20 hour days doing absolutely nothing but reading years of archives from the pro-choice suicide newsgroup.***** I was obsessed with it, had no idea why, and my mood fluctuated greatly and frequenly during that time. Those posts were the most painfully, brutally, honest and gut-wrenching things I’ve read in my entire life, but I couldn’t stop reading. That place is the most miserable, hopeless, godforsaken corner of the Internet. I’d read tale after tale of wretched experiences with the mental health system, and therapy and meds that never worked. I can’t understand how I could feel compelled to torture myself with the neverending tales of the most miserable souls alive when I really do want to get better.

Right now, I’m just starting to feel more crazy and overwhelmed by so many different emotions that I can’t even keep track. Words are really hard to find. In fact, I guess I’ve spent three hours now composing this post. Of course, the Xanax may have something to do with that, too.

Thanks once again to everyone for all the support. You don’t know how much it means.

*****For those who don’t know, newsgroups are mostly unmoderated, text-based discussion forums. Posts are mirrored on servers around the world. The newsgroups (a.k.a. Usenet) are a part of the Internet that predates the WWW by over ten years.

As for “pro-choice suicide,” well, they neither encourage, nor discourage the practice, and posters that do either in their newsgroup are usually frowned upon or flamed. They openly discuss their suicide plans and feelings on the matter with understanding people who won’t dissuade them.

<righteous indignation>
Aaaaagh! Usenet is not a part of the Internet!
</righteous indignation>

Listening to those depressing songs seems self-destructive at first glance, but my own experiences lead me to believe it isn’t necessarily so. It always seems to help me to really, really, shamelessly wallow in the shit.

That said, sitting in all day doing that just plain isn’t healthy. Is it sunny where you are? Then get out of the house. Take a walk. It’s amazing how a walk under a shining sun helps the mood. If it’s raining, go to an arcade hall or something. Do something that doesn’t require too much thinking. Let your mind work itself out.

Neutron stars, my best wishes. I’m going to recommend a book that helped me a lot when a close friend of mine was depressed, and taught me a lot about how the human brain works. You’ve expressed interest in how nutrition influences well-being, and this book (which is very well written and very accessible) covers that in part. It’s not thick and only 10 bucks:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0062513540/qid=1115112297/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl14/104-7979113-8790317?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Trust me on this one, it’s awesome.

He also wrote this highly regarded book on a similar topic:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/006251234X/qid=1115112371/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7979113-8790317?v=glance&s=books

These two books know a lot about depression and should be required reading for anyone suffering from one or knowing someone who suffers from one, in my opinion.

Heh. Well, not technically, but I was trying to sum up the concept as briefly as I could to the totally unfamiliar.

I know I should be walking. It’s just that summing up the energy still seems near-impossible.

Arwin, thanks for the recommendations and good wishes.

Well, you know what they say. Even the longest journey begins with one step. Just get up, put your clothes on and go out. Just take a little walk. Are there any parks or woodlands where you are? Go there. Don’t think “I’m going to walk ten miles today”, just think “I’m going to walk”. That, I think you have the energy for.

If you weren’t half a world away I’d be there to walk with you. We could both use it today, I think.

Tell Doug I said hi and that i’m not depressed anymore. I’m sure the old crew is long gone by now though, but he never leaves.

FTR if you or anyone else want to try the supplemental route two of the most informative websites I have seen are

http://cms.psychologytoday.com/topics/depression.html

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/hc/resourceareas_view/0,1438,453,00.html

I’m so sorry, neutron star. I have perused that newsgroup myself in the past. Please be careful. Feel free to wallow, but try not to indulge impulses that are just making you feel worse.

You seem to be trying to make the right choices for your health. That’s a good sign in itself.

I am so sorry, neutron star. If you ever need a sympathetic ear, we are here for you.

I am fully of the belief that music soothes the broken heart. So, for you, I present an aptly titled song: It Gets Better.

I’d also give you a huge hug if I could. Hug yourself for me.

That would be nice; having someone to walk with would make the activity a lot more bearable. And I hate the taste of alcohol, so it’s not like I’d have any hooch around to tempt you. :slight_smile: I hadn’t read much further than the OP of your recent MPSIMS thread, but I really haven’t read anything other than this thread and the front page on Slashdot for the last week, so don’t take that personally. I do actually remember reading your thread about what you went through a couple months ago, and feel kind of bad that I didn’t respond and offer you some advice, consolation, or anything, really. Sorry.

Heh. Just for the hell of it, I did a search. He’s posted as recently as yesterday.

Misha, thanks for the advice. God, that place makes me shudder just thinking about it. I hope I never get the urge to go reading it again.

(On Preview: Thanks for the song, Carm6773. I tried to hug myself, but all that did was make me realize that I don’t smell so great and need to go take a shower now :slight_smile: )

Just remember the SDMB never has a busy signal. You might find yourself on hold for a few minutes, but that’s because the next Doper on call will be around shortly. We all gotta pee sometime.

Hang in there.

Seriously, don’t worry about that. It’s not like being a Doper involves any duties (well, except the chocolate, the three albino goats every midsummer’s eve and the hickory hat, of course). It’s all strictly voluntary.