I need to go back to look at the votes again. Blaster came out of the gate yesterday with a ready to go case on ScubaBen. I think he was the alternative wagon to Blaster early in the day. I want to look at people who voted ScubaBen and then switched to Inner.
But why don’t you think you or gnarly would have been better targets? Surely peeker is an abysmal night kill target when there are two live village masons on the board. What do you think is going on here?
Well, we do know from the deaths yesterday and last night that 2 of our results weren’t even from cops, they were from crier roles.
We also know by deduction that the other 3 results are NOT from crier roles.
Dethy setup works with 4 different sanities plus a scumbag which is a wildcard. 3 means that either it is not one of each, or that there’s one of each but one is missing altogether, or that there’s one of each but the good results are going to the mafia scumbags.
In other words, the town could have a mixed bag of results which we can determine which is which through the scan-next-name plan I’ve suggested for N3.
Or, town could have one of each but an unknown one is missing.
Or we can assume the town has Naive, Paranoid, and Insane and the scums are getting the useful results.
The third one is a bit too specific to assume.
I know for a fact we do not have 3 naive cops.
I know for a fact we do not have 3 paranoid cops.
Several players should know for a fact that we do not have 3 sane cops, since innocent players are likely marked down as wolves.
As such, we already know there are likely varying sanities to the cops.
As such, a good basic assumption is that they’re either a mixed and unpredictable bag of sanities, of which there is a limited number of possible permutations since we’re only talking about 3 results and 4 sanities, OR
We have one of each sanity.
I prefer to wait and see, but also work with the one of each theory as it is more symmetrical and therefore balanced, gameplay wise.
wolves make weird kills + kills could have been redirected + that one guy could have absorbed a kill + trying to avoid angels
i don’t think it’s very interesting to talk about now
I actually think it’s quite damning of him. Even more so that he hasn’t posted again yet afaik.
Either WIFOM (they’re townies but they want us to lynch them and aim for possible cops instead for their murders) or we’ll determine their guilt through the sanity-deduction plan I’ve suggested, and they couldn’t have murdered them because they’re scum.
I’m going to be soon, does someone mind** compiling a vote table for analyzing**? If not I can do it tomorrow afternoon.
aight bedtime, later
The point of asking texcat is so texcat will answer :smack:
Him not posting is pretty bad looking. Him being called out on it directly after he posted it or an hour later is a significant difference though, but I’m not sure how long after it was that someone brought it up.
With this many posts he could have easily sponged it from something we’re missing, but obviously we need him to actually come in and explain that. Just searching for “9 wolves” gives me 216 results, so I can’t even cherry pick something that explains his reasoning. It doesn’t really matter though because he can’t really give a satisfactory answer, it’s just way too specific of a number. He should be a wagon today.
I think we clearly have more than 3 cops still alive, since one of the results from N1 had role and alignment and none today did. But it could be that we have other town criers or other odd messengers still alive.
Inner’s role said he was a “beat cop”, but didn’t say anything about his sanity. Wouldn’t his sanity be listed in his reveal if this is a dethy setup?
I have no idea why I am still alive. I did say I had wondered the same thing.
I’ve never been in a game where the type of seer wasn’t listed when the seer dies, so just assume that he peeked legitimately. The mod even says somewhere in the op that death write ups will almost always be true.
Night all
If **peeker **was killed by Scum, he probably wasn’t the intended kill. His role:
So whoever peeker targeted was probably the intended kill.
Not necessarily.
And by the way, unless you think Gnarlycharlie, NAF, and Episkey are ALL guilty, then we know these results are inaccurate. Since they aren’t crier roles (or these folks would have been cried yesterday) we know that we have either 3 caught scumbags, or 3 detectives, some of which are inaccurate, possibly all.
Which do we assume is the most likely?
[ul]
[li]3 caught scumbags and 2 dead scumbags[/li][li]2-3 inaccurate cops[/li][/ul]
Serious question.
posting as i catch up. first of all, happy birthday pizza!
yes, such irony. that said he could have been the target or his target was the target of the NK. i wonder if we will find out.
so there isn’t a silencer role?
another example of differences in culture. unless we are hard-confirmed, most people will not totally accept a mason claim. scum would leave us alive to keep that doubt about us and hunt for other roles, like another cop. i imagine that if there are POG scum left, they were convinced by the Dope scum to spare us.
the color suggests that it was a town kill because the killer didn’t recognize the cop before shooting.
again the color suggests it was the scum kill.
Ughhhh what a dumb mistake by me. I wish I could say I was good enough to be aware of the game’s set-up and not mess up like I did by saying there are 9 wolves. I didn’t understand what was going on at first when people were questioning my post. I could have sworn the OP said there were 9 wolves but apparently I was wrong. I am used to 1/4 of the players (37 in this case) being wolves, and just assumed that was incontrovertibly the case in this game which evidently was a mistake.
I understand it looks terrible and could cut my game short but I still want to try to help win this game for the village. I don’t know what else to say, but I’m not scum and I’ll try to get a wolf lynched today.
I was going to ask the same question. Why must there be ‘one each’ of the various roles?
And while we’re at it, why do all of the whispers have to be from Cops in the first place? In fact, we know for certain that they aren’t, as neither **Dancecat **nor Blaster Master was *any *sort of Cop.
Trying and failing not to lurk in this game. I keep trying to finish the thread before I post, and there is always more.
I’ll just post some thoughts for now:
These messages are not necessarily to be trusted, and may not all be from cops. Inner was a cop who apparently got his own result on Dancecat, and some of the messages were not cop results before.
Don’t like Astral’s vote on Episkey. After yesterday, I don’t see why Astral is so quick to trust these messages. In fact, Episkey trusting Idle’s message is one of the things he found scummy about him before. (That case here. It’s pretty thin. Astral voted for gnarly yesterday, which I don’t think was a good vote, although Astral did have quite a bit of reasoning, (that I didn’t agree with at all).
Sangaman sounded really definite about the number of wolves, but I don’t like the way Idle jumped on him for it, although Ben was first. I didn’t like Idle’s brewha vote either. Seems like a deliberate waste of a lynch. I think Sangaman has 5 votes so far, which seems plenty for now.
There doesn’t necessarily. I included that scenario in with my other posts for all to see.
They don’t, I already agreed that 2 of the results from yesterday were from Criers not cop-like roles.
That said, the same 3 people from today were not “cried” yesterday so that means the reason for getting these messages is **proved **different on these 3 suspects.