Mystery Mafia -- Game Thread

No.

How do you mean?

So if you’re on the level, there is a Village Roleblocker still kicking around somewhere. So, the people whose roles are still unknown are:

DonkTimesFour
Giraffe
Normal Phase

Normal has targeted:

N1: Dancecat -may have targeted Idle, since Idle claimed to have received Dancecat’s alignment
N2: Idle - claimed to have been blocked
N3: crackedquds - appears to have been blocked, targeted lilflower with no result
N4: lilflower, Scathach - lilflower targeted herself and felt safe, Scathach targeted Idle with no apparent result
N5: PCM (redirected to self by Drain and to septimus by septimus) - no result
N6: Giraffe - targeted self with no result
N7: bufftabby - targeted LightFoot?, LightFoot claims to have felt a warm glow
N8: unknown

Giraffe has targeted:

N1: peeker - targeted Mykbot with no apparent result
N2: Pizza - poisoned brewha
N3: special ed - targeted Drain, whose power was doubled the next Night
N4: Giraffe - no apparent result, was told he was “headed in the right direction”
N5: Drain - targeted Normal, with no apparent result
N6: Giraffe - no result
N7: lilflower - was blocked
N8: septimus - no information

Based on those results, it appears that neither Normal nor Giraffe are a Roleblocker. That leaves DonkTimesFour.

And I totally forgot about Silver Jan…

Never mind…Silver Jan can’t be a Roleblocker either.

WAG would be that DB would be almost certainly be viewed as confirmed town , what with the other person targeting Scath being scum (lighterfeet). At this late stage of the game - confirmed town are dangerous to scum as so few people left, plus DB has the least dangerous role against scum (Ok matter of opinion) thus was least likely to be protected. All wild arse guess and kinda pointless really as we dont know what scum were thinking.

Let me amend this statement. Silver Jan can’t be a Rroleblocker based on the Night 1 results only. Every other Night, her actions are consistent with a Roleblocker ability.

Jan’s targets:

N1: Ed - targeted Scuba_Ben, Ben’s power doubled on Night 2
N2: Idle - blocked
N3: LightFoot - no result
N4: Suburban - blocked
N5: Episkey - blocked
N6: Jan - no result
N7: lilflower - blocked

Is there any other way to explain Scuba_Ben getting his power doubled on Night 2?

Is it possible Jan got blocked or redirecteed to someone who hasnt said so, so Ed didnt get blocked?

although did SJ say if she recieved notification of being blocked or has ever recieved any indication of her power having an effect

Every Night I have just been told that my action had no apparent result, even when I targeted myself. Last Night I targeted** Donk** and I was waiting to see if he said he’d been roleblocked before I said anything. The thing is though, I could wait all Day cos we haven’t heard from him and I’d rather the result (or lack of one)was out there.

If sangaman, the Wolf Doctor, targeted Ed on Night 1, would that have prevented the role-blocking?

But be aware that I’ve already postulated sangaman targeting NAF1138 on Night 1 to solve a different quandary. (#5370)

There’s nothing in the role description to suggest that **sangaman **blocked his targets.

The only way I can see this working is if Mykbot/DuckburgDK/LightFoot 2.0 blocked Silver Jan that Night. They said they blocked **Weedy **that Night. Weedy was a Mystic, and his partner (Astral Rejection) never reported any findings, so it’s possible he was blocked…though I don’t know what motivation there would have been for anyone to lie about their target at that point, especially when there was no visible effect.

Do we know how many mystics there were supposed to be and how many masons?

We know of two Mystics: Astral Rejection and** Hirka T’Bawa/Weedy**. Their role description says “Each night beginning Night One, you select a target.*** One of your fellow Mystics*** will learn your target’s full role, while you will learn the full role of a player targeted by one of your fellow Mystics.” This does not rule out additional Mystics. I had actually misremembered the description, thinking it implied only two Mystics; the possibility of three (or more) does add to the realm of possible explanations for current results, or lack thereof.

As for the Masons, they seem to have been paired. We had **Texcat **and gnarlycharlie, who gained Vig powers once they found each other. We also had LightFoot I, who gained Doc powers if she found her partner, which she never did. All of the Mason roles said “Each night beginning Night One, you search for your fellow mason”, which would indicate they were paired up.

So we definitely have another Town Mason out there, who would appear to be powerless.
We *may *have another Town Mystic, who I would guess is also powerless if he exists.
According to Normal Phase we have a Town RoleBlocker.
From the information we got from sangaman, we should have two Wolves.

The current claimed roles are:

bufftabby - ‘warm glow giver’
lilflower - Doc
PCM - Watcher
Scathach - Apothecary/Poisoner
septimus - ‘self-redirector’
Ed - efficiency Expert (confirmed Town by Scuba_Ben)
Suburban - Tracker

DonkTimesFour - None
Giraffe - None
Normal - None
Silver Jan - None (confirmed town by Scuba_Ben)

I somehow missed this sentence when I replied to you earlier. I think your solution works, and shows that Silver Jan is the town Roleblocker.

**NAF1138 **targeted **peeker **on Night 0 (his was the action that went through). So NAF became a Lightning Rod for Night 1.

Night 1, NAF targeted Special Ed, so anyone who targeted Ed was redirected to NAF.
Silver Jan targeted Ed, so her block was redirected to NAF.

Here’s the quandry: would Jan’s block have negated NAF’s power on Night 1? We know that NAF did in fact gain Ed’s Efficiency Expert power, because he used it to double his own power the following Night. But it must be that NAF’s Mimic ability takes precedence in the order of operations over Jan’s block, because if Jan blocked NAF, then NAF would not have targeted Ed, so he would not have redirected Jan, and Jan would not have blocked NAF.

So, this explains why Jan did not block Ed on Night 1. All of Jan’s other actions are consistent with her being a Roleblocker, so that is what she most likely is.

It looks as if I am the Town Roleblocker and I thought I could clear it up by blocking myself :frowning: I wish** DonkTimesFour** would come back and say what happened to him. Even without that, we are very close to winning and I think my vote on him will stand because although he* could* be Town, his lack of participation isn’t helping right now.

So that leaves one of Donk, giraffe and normal as Lightfoot v1 long lost mason buddy.

Which could potentially leave the other two as Scum assuming all other claimed roles are pro town.

Bufftabby - I have a town lean on as she seams to have protected in a protown way. Although I am trying to figure out if it is a wolf kill protecting warm glow or only prevents others actions acting on the target of Buffs warm glowiness. As said before I dont think the scum have a designated killer as I only saw one person visit Zerial the night they died. Then again a scum buff has no reason not to act protown - she just needs to stay alive.

Septimus - still suspicious - mostly over the coincidence of Sj and Septimus getting reads on lilflower and teh whole role symettry between him and Peeker - weak case though.
I think we need to lynch Donk 4 as we wont learn anything else from him.

Remaining scum roles out there? Well I have receievd roles with

I think **PCM **was eaten by the Black Beast…

Opps hit enter there too soon

The last line was - remaining scum roles - I have recieved a confused role PM twice - so there may be some name swapper type role for scum
i also had a ‘no apparent result’ one night - not sure if that was down to lighterfeet - although I think others reproted being blocked - so there may be still some rolebloking type power out there.

This is a summary of all posts by DonkTimesFour

Day 2:
1659 - hello post, when he subbed in
1661 - fluff
1665 - fluff
1682 - fluff
1685 - fluff
1903 - comment on previous game

Night 2:
2582 - actual content. Twice in this post he says that Dancecat is a bad vote. (Of course, this post is made during Night 2, so he shouldn’t have been talking strategy in the first place)
2597 - fluff
2601 - fluff
2620 - fluff
2623 - fluff
2627 - fluff

Day 3:
3284 - apology for his light participation. Tells us the he got a message saying Dancecat (killed overNight) was Town, says he thinks Pizza is Town
3286 - comment to Weedy about why he (Weedy) thinks sangaman is Scum but votes for Astral

Night 3:
No posts

Day 4:
3835 - vote for Idle, with no reasining included
4035 - apologizes for his light participation

Night 4:
No posts

Day 5:
No posts

Night 5:
No posts

Day 6:
4825 - apologizes for his light participation, thinks crackedquads was Day-Angeled
4826 - votes crackedquads, “if the scum are day angeling CQ it must mean that they know he has some sort of important role, like vig, or detective”
4844 - thinks that there are ways for players to determine their abilities

Night 6:
No posts

Day 7:
5272 - vote for Episkey, with no reasoning included

Night 7:
Np Posts

Day 8:
5360 - apologizes for his light participation
5361 - says he is a villager and that if anyone has questions for him they should fire away

Night 8:
No posts

Day 9:
No posts

I’m not seeing anything here that makes me want to change my vote.

If he’s Town, and he’s actually still playing this game, then he needs to get his butt in here and help out some.

If he’s Scum, then he will most likely serve himself best by continuing to remain quiet so that he doesn’t give the Town any more information.

Night 1:
Astral received the Town Mystic Role (unclaimed, based on the fact that J.D. says he targeted Astral) (true, from J.D.)

Night 2:
PCM received the Town Apothecary role (false)
Ed received the Town Efficiency Expert role (true, from J.D.)

Night 3:
Idle received the Scum Detective role (true, from J.D.)

Night 4:
Normal received the Town Roleblocker role (false)
J.D. received the Towwn Psychiatrist role (true, from J.D.)

Night 5:
septimus received the Town Tracker role (false)
Suburban received the Town Tracker role (true, from J.D.)

Night 6:
PCM received the Town Efficiency Expert role (false)
Nobody received a true role (J.D. blocked)

Night 7:
No reports.

Night 8:
No reports

We had 4 reports in 8 Nights of someone receiveing a Role which was not theirs. That would imply that there is an unknown role out there, though whether this role would be Town or Scum is uncertain.

Also, on Night 7** J.D.** should have still gotten an action in even though he was killed, unless he was blocked.

Speculation - Could be the false role whisper is a scum role which spreads confusion - but contains some correct information (power/alingment)scum may have figured out that targeting town with the power is a bad idea as it may reveal additional town powers out there so are targeting their scum buddy?

Septimus who have you targets been for the last few nights? Did anything happen to you when Giraffe was randed :dubious: onto you?