That came up in an earlier thread, and was vigorously hand-waved aside. I’d guess that he’s holding out for an engraved invitation to migrate to Belarus so that they can appoint him Ambassador to the U.S. Just a guess, mind you.
Commisar’s last post proves he is completely delusional. (Not that any of is earlier posts were wanting in that regard, mind you.)
Interestingly enough, you quoted the answer to your own question, but failed to see the significance thereof. I emphasize: “From each according to his ability…” That word is not just meaningless filler. We all have different abilities, and the best system is one that will take advantage of it. The vast majority of people can work on a farm, and I am one of them. A small minority of people can engage in complex intellectual labor, and I am one of them as well. To put me on a farm would be to waste my personal abilities. Sure, we can send everyone out into the fields, but that is going to result in a society without physicians, lawyers, computer specialists, engineers, artists, and so forth. In such a system, abilities would be disregarded, and needs thus not met.
In short, all labor is worthwhile and needs someone to do it. That someone should be whoever’s personal maximum potential is met by the work in question. Working below one’s abilities is wasteful, irresponsible, and demeaning.
Commissar, assuming your mother wasn’t a herpes dripping whore that raised a craven coward who can’t live up to his insane gibberish, why don’t you move to a communist country? What’s stopping you?
Logic has nothing to do with your posts. You believe what you believe, and are blind to anything other than what you believe. Usually we get religious fanatics, but with you it is a political bent rather than a religious bent. Too bad you have to live with yourself.
So far the only ability that I see our commissioner of apologists have is to be proud of making mistakes.
At least is useful for something, as the famous demotivator poster says:
“It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.”
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/ALsHnP/www.shof.msrcsites.co.uk/mis.html
And you skipped over my main point: He is jailed for speaking out and you are allowed to be free for doing the same. Why aren’t you in jail? What could be the difference?
And yet here you are, free to post your drivel on the internet with no worry that the government you despise will come along and jail you, or because they are no where near as merciful, put you to death for your words. It amazes me how cavalier you are with the potential death of a fellow human being for doing exactly what you are doing, yet you sit safely in your mother’s basement while he sits in a jail thankful that he was killed.
Really, what is so delicate about a system that can’t withstand criticism? Why are they so afraid of words like ‘freedom’ and ‘human rights’? It seems that those countries who are run by dictators and theocrats have the same fears. Any Sesame Street graduate can see what things are the same and which are not. Yet you can’t.
Not even going to bother with this one. Let someone else shoot this low hanging fruit.
No, you only think it is correct to tell your own people how to live. And you’ll kill them if they don’t follow your rules. Rules that you personally don’t live by, but expect others to do. Or except when they are rogue states, etc. Then you’ll attempt to kill them, too.
Except when someone disagrees and then the Gulag or the gallows for them.
Other than the word ‘capitalist’, how is that different than what was practiced in the USSR, again?
I didn’t say he was pitted here.
Actually, I guess I never pitted him.
Not just this thread. EVERY thread.
Not sure what you mean by this. Do you think Finn debates in good faith or does he simply attack anyone that he disagrees with?
Its not that he is wrong all the time, its his method of debate (if you want to call it that). Some people are OK with it (he even seems to have a few fanbois) and I think its counterproductive.
Really??? So when I said that NK was one of the worst regimes on earth, you took that to mean that I was analogizing them to the Palestinians? If you look back I brought up the Palestinians in the context of how Finn seems to have one set of rules when it comes to Israel another set of rules when it comes to anyone else’s right to anyone else.
My defense of NK was limited to countering the inaccurate statements that NK engaged in unprovoked attacks on civilians. In order to reach that conclusion you would have to find that the artillery exercise was not provocative and that the NK barrage was aimed at the civilians on the island rather than the military base on the island.
If your point is that the barrage was an overreaction, then sure, I agree, they went too far. Someone suggested that the appropriate reaction would have been to shell the exact same patch of water that the SK artillery shelled, sounds good to me.
If your point is that they were reckless about civilian casualties and in fact commited war crimes by causing civilian casualties using indiscriminate and excessive force, then fine.
But if your argument is “WAAAAHHHH, they’re NK so everything they do is automatically evil and anyone that criticizes them about anything is autopmatically correct” then you lost me.
I don’t think you have the faintest clue what I have said in that thread other than the fact that I haven’t been damning NK quite enthusiastically enough for your taste (after all I do condemn NK, not just for its attack but also for being NK). Perhaps you lack the optical receptors that allow you to see shades of gray.
This is just another example of how Damri is not particularly bright. He’s desperate to draw an equivalence between one group launching rockets with murderous intent at another group’s populated areas and another having a training exercise where they fire artillery, with no malice, into their own territory that happens to be open ocean. And this shows my dastardly double standards.
He’s just sore that he’s had his head kicked in on the facts so often on middle eastern matters and has a grudge about it, so he decided that the NK thread was a good place to try to play out that grudge.
Of course, he has many different types of idiocy. Like his “provoked” fallacy of equivocation whereby any “provocative” action can be said to be a provocation for a war crime. Or his “not targeting civilians” when NK obviously targeted the entire island’s populace for potential death and dismemberment. Or his “they were really targeting a military base” when all the evidence shows that he’s simply making that up as part of his apologia for NK.
It’s just missing something without Chekov saying “It vas a Russian inwention!”
The difference is that I am not breaking any criminal statutes with my actions. Once again, all nations set their own laws, and it is not for you to decry them. I would no more criticize the government in China than I would buy alcohol in Saudi Arabia or deny the Holocaust in Germany. What’s missing from your diatribe is a respect for the laws of the land. The criminal in question knew that his actions constituted a crime, and chose to disregard that simple fact. Guilty; done and done. Hopefully he’ll have something to think about over the next decade.
Incidentally, the Imperial laws are not much different in this regard. Agitating for criminal action is very much out of the realm of First Amendment Protection - see incitement to criminal activity.
From what I gather, it wasn’t the “human rights” thing that got him in hot water. It was the other minor thing - you know, calling for the overthrow of the government and all that. And trying to get others involved in his fledgling rebellion. Yeah, I can’t possibly see why any government would take issue with that. :rolleyes:
Capitulation accepted.
No, not really. I’m much more in favor of the Chinese model, which imposes true socialism while also allowing for entrepreneurial market participation. Also, I’m in favor of China’s open door policy - people that truly cannot stomach the system should be perfectly free to leave. Finally, like China, I would only impose the death sentence for extremely serious crimes. Hell, I wouldn’t even advocate death in this case, and we’re discussing a true traitor to his people here.
See above. Also, I would generally allow for most dissent. However, the line needs to be drawn somewhere, and calling for the collapse of your government seems like a good place to lay it down.
By taking an agrarian backwater and turning it into a proletariat superpower that carefully nurtured and protected its people. From having nothing, we went to having free health care, guaranteed housing, multi-year fully-paid maternity leave, you name it. The Empire still doesn’t have any of that, I might add…
We? You are Chinese now?
Once again, you are wilfully blind to the facts. China does not have anything close to free health care: Health in China - Wikipedia
I name it nonsense. China’s 90 days is not multi-year. Once again you are being wilfully blind to the facts. Parental leave - Wikipedia
The USSR collapsed, so whatever it did have with respect to health care and maternity leave is moot, for it was not sustainable. Now you are tying your horse to China, which does not have benefits anywhere near these.
When come back, bring facts.
Ah, if only the USSR had lasted… a few more Chernobyls would’ve helped toughen up the Earth’s immune system, like getting flu shots.
Give it a few months and another IP address, I’m sure Commy will be back as Glorious Celestial Bureaucrat.
Although I must note that Commy, the American citizen, was talking about the Soviet Union in that quote
The Communists have adapted Reagan’s 11th Commandment. I guess that’s progress for you.
Too bad you couldn’t ask the dead.
I’m seeing some weasel wording in that “By the USSR” phrasing.
Whether you’re lying to yourself or lying to us is beyond my ability to determine at the moment. But it’s at least one of the two.
Is Commissar back on the glories of Belarus again? The festering sore on the ass of Europe? :rolleyes:
Here’s how the United Nations Commission on Human Rights describes the place, “the Republic of Belarus is characterized by the systematic violation of civil and political rights.” Fun times in the people’s paradise. The UN also makes note of police using torture to extract confessions, the beating of journalists who attempt to speak out against the State, and forced labor. Oh, and the State has the right to take your children away without explination and require you to continue paying for their stay in an orphanage/foster home at whatever cost they wish to set.
Incidentally, Commissar, it’s quite possible nobody told you about anything bad happening in Belarus because it’s illegal to talk about it. (Articles 188-189 and 367-369 of the Belarus Criminal Code) Committing such crimes as “defaming the government” or “insulting the president” carry penalties of 2-5 years in prision. Prisons that are just as comfortable as you’d expect from a shithole dictatorship. Since the office of the president controls the courts, “insulting” is whatever Lukashenko says it is that day.