"Naaaaaaaaay, Abbott...!" / Brilliant Aussie PM Voted Out Today

Breaking news from BBC:

For those of you not familiar with Mr. Abbott’s accomplishments, please allow me to share a few highlights:

Somewhere in Australia, I’m sure that they’re setting off fireworks in celebration.
Well… its that or they’re refueling that new jet fighter…

I suspect some of your sound bites there are a bit sensationalist. That said, I don’t like Abbot and didn’t vote for him, however the people who DID vote for him deserve to have him for a full term. It was bad when Labor was pulling this shit and it is bad when this other bunch do it. How about some fucking stability for fucks sake!

I’m not so sure they’re sensationalist. By the way, this…

…includes reporting child abuse. Yes, it’s now **illegal **to report child abuse in immigration detention camps. Noice.

I can see why you’d want them to be hoist by their own petard, but Abbott was a cancer on the country. He was horrible in every possible way, from trying to start international incidents with our neighbours, to cutting government spending everywhere except putting priests in schools, to deriving pleasure from the fact that a pensioner was forced to work on a sex line to make ends meet.

It’s not so much that I want them to be hoist by their own petard, but that the country voted a certain way and that vote should be honoured, unless it is really really bad in which case you dissolve parliament and have an election again. I don’t think a party should present themselves as being led by a certain person, win an election, and then change the leader.

From the Elections description:
“For discussion of elections and electoral politics, including strategy and tactics, political parties, individual races, political news, and politicians and public figures.”

I think that is a better fit. Moved.

So, how does this Mr. Turnbull differ from Abbott? What can Aussies expect of him?

I remember him falsely raising hopes that Malaysian flight MH370 was going to be discovered soon when the so-called pings were detected. He was “confident” they were coming from the plane’s black box when he hadn’t been told that at all by search officials.

And there’s this bizarre video of him non-answering a reporter’s question. There’s something creepy about him.

I disagree with this.

From the linked bbc article:
“Under the Australian system, as in the UK, the prime minister is not directly elected by voters but is the leader of the party or coalition that can command a majority in parliament.”

You vote for the party and the policies. Not for the personality of the frontman.

Hmmm . . . when’s the next election?

IIRC Trunbull was essentially demoted in the past because among other things he opposed Abbott on matters like climate change, as Abbot was just a very dumb AGW denier (he even wanted to fund, at taxpayers expense, dopes like Bjorn Lomborg to continue to produce denier nonsense) and his actions were becoming really insane regarding this issue. It is really good news that Abbott was sacked.

Mr. Turnbull is a lot richer:

There are so very few of the very rich; surely this oppressed minority needs to be represented at the highest level of government?

Dear god, the Aussie PM’s seat has more intrigues than the Ottoman harem ever did.

Thats 3 PM who have been chucked out by one of their juniors, not the electorate. In 5 years.

Technically yes, but I think for most swing voters the personality of the leader is a major consideration. People are supposed to vote for who they want to represent their local electorate.

I hate Abbott as much as the next bloke, I really can’t stand the man. I’m happy to see him go. (although I’m not sure if Turnbull is going to be an improvement). But in all fairness you can’t really lay the F-35 at Abbott’s feet.

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How is that even possible? :confused: Is this an actual Act of Parliament, or just a proposed bill?

Turnbull will, to some extent, just be a less embarrassing Abbott. Which should scare peope who hated Abbott because it means he might be better at selling all the awful policies of the Abbott government. I’m sure Labor’s just as upset as Abbott.

Having said that, seeing Abbott toppled after less than two years was great. Shame we won’t get to vote his government out, though (I always assumed this is why some people were pissed when Rudd returned; they’d been robbed of the chance to vote out the Gillard government).

This stability argument has always bothered me. If a leader is unpopular (objective) and doing a terrible job (subjective), they should be replaced. To me, the fact that the Liberal party kept Abbott for six years reflects poorly on them. Labor was at least able to say “this leader’s not working, we should get a new one”.

Wow! An Australian Stephen Harper! :smiley:

Nah, this is how parliamentary politics is supposed to work. Take it from a country where we are usually *forced *to keep a lout and an incompetent on for years after he proves embarrassing. This feature of your politics is something to be proud of.

This is true, but they were deposed via a ballot, we didn’t shoot the bastards.