Spin is good for you, it keeps you on your toes.
Les Moonves is not the head of CBS News, he’s the President and CEO of CBS Corp. So statements that he runs the journalism division are not accurate even if he’s the one making them. He runs the network, of which the journalism unit is a part. CBS News is run by Jeff Fager (chairman) and David Rhodes (president), and I am sure the policies of CBS News would not allow them to pay to attend an Obama fundraiser or make those kinds of political comments. I ran a google search and saw Breitbart is giving this a lot of attention; not surprisingly, it’s a bait and switch by conservatives.
You’re thinking of insincere heels.
I gather you think that this is the first time that a someone from a news organization has paid to go to a political fundraiser.
If I looked, do you think I could find anyone other news organizations that have paid to go to a political fundraiser? What do you think my odds are?
So is this a wildly unusual thing to happen? Or are you just flinging poo to see if any of it sticks?
Do those people say “I’ve given no money to any candidate.”?
He’s not from a news organization. He runs a TV network that has a news division, and the OP is using that to make false claims about CBS News on that basis.
The OP probably meant CBS News is in the bag for Obama, but that’s not really important. The issue here is that that conclusion can’t be drawn from the actions of the guy who is in charge of programming at CBS. He runs the network but isn’t the head of the news division and does not dictate their news coverage.
I didn’t see any false claims from the OP. Moonves apparently lied in stating that he wasn’t donating money, and you seem to be alleging that he lied in saying that he runs a news division, but that’s not the OP’s fault.
That Moonves lied in the first case is obvious, but I tend to believe him in the second. I suspect he has a better understanding of what he does than you do.
Regards,
Shodan
The thread title is “Nah, CBS news division is not in Obama’s pocket.” The OP makes that allegation based on Moonves’ attendance at the fundraiser and his comments about gay marriage and partisanship. The OP also quotes an LA Times piece that misleadingly says Moonves runs a news division, which he doesn’t. He runs a TV network. I don’t particularly care what the source of the false claims is, so if you like, blame the whole thing on the LA Times story rather than the OP for not running a Google search to find out who runs CBS and CBS News before he started a topic accusing them of bias based on the actions and comments of Les Moonves. Moonves gave a phony answer to the question about the fundraiser and I’d prefer people in his position didn’t engage in that kind of overt partisanship, but nevertheless, he’s a private citizen, and he’s not subject to the policies of CBS News because he doesn’t work for CBS News, doesn’t run it, doesn’t report the news for CBS, and doesn’t choose which stories it covers.
What is it with liberals and reading comprehension in this thread?
It is a bit of a stretch to believe that you know more than he does about what his job is, doncha think?
Regards,
Shodan
Is it a stretch to think that a five-word job summary might not be fully accurate? I don’t think so. He’s in charge of the CBS network. He doesn’t run CBS News.
Is he the boss of the boss of the News division?
Do you have any evidence for your assertion that you know more about his job than he does? Because I am disinclined to take automatic denial over what comes straight from the horse’s mouth.
Regards,
Shodan
The media is a tool of the powerful, and the powerful a tool of media. I won’t say get over it but it’s not like its a revelation. If you rely on any mainstream media for you’re info you’re basically a mental cow being herded around till slaughter. Course most outsider media is bad as well but that is the crux of the problem with America: You have to be a scholar of the contemporary world to have any real idea of who the good guys are and who the bad guys are, what policies hurt us and which facilitate improvements. When only a small percentage of homosapiens can achieve that level of insight while also not being the beneficiary and usual supporter of the system as it is means things will continue to be a plutocracy. Essentially the same system as humans have always had with a different color scheme in the lobby. You can fool most of the people most of the time and that’s plenty to maintain things as status quo.
Course if you think Romney has fewer media allies I’m going to just roll my eyes and move on.
It’s like the anti-Nuremberg: “I vas only giving orders!”
I assume he is, yes.
The only thing I’ve asserted its factual: he’s not the head of CBS News. He’s the head of the CBS Corporation. So any implication that CBS News is biased toward Obama based on the views of Les Moonves misses the obvious fact that is the president of the entire network - which also includes the scripted programing, CBS News, CBS Sports, and on and on - and he’s responsible for the whole company and not the news division particularly. So he’s not the one choosing the stories or shaping the coverage or supervising the journalists day to day, and his political views don’t suggest what the OP bluntly implies they do. [Unless we’re still pretending that wasn’t the idea of this thread.] We can go around and around about why a guy who obviously has a healthy ego says “I run a news division” when he actually runs a TV network and why he apparently believes people will believe him when he says a $2,500 fundraiser doesn’t count as a contribution to a candidate. But the bottom line here doesn’t change because the views of the guy in charge of CBS Corp. doesn’t tell you how CBS News works.
No, but may I suggest that if the boss of the boss drops programming suggestions, that his ideas would be given some consideration? Possibly even serious consideration?
I don’t have any evidence at all that Moonves has tried to do so, but to say that a full Network level big wig has no influence or pull with a discreet subdivision within that network doesn’t sound likely to me.
After all, Rupert Murdoch is viewed as the anti-christ around here with the kind of assumption the he directs Fox News Channel’s bias and/or penchant for sensationalism.
He says exactly the opposite. What I was hoping for is some indication as to why I should believe you, and not him. Do you really expect us to buy that the head of CBS does not know what his job entails, but that you do?
I mean, come on.
Look, I think we can all see your problem. The head of one of the MSM has stated in unequivocal terms that his view of journalism involves partisanship, and he did so on the occasion of a Democratic fundraiser. The conclusion is damn near inescapable.
Stone-faced denial doesn’t change that in the slightest. Sorry.
Regards,
Shodan
Murdoch gives daily guidance to his news divisions on how to spin. He is the anti-christ. Problem is he’s just the most blatant so far at that scale.
Neither does the OP. What he has (in the two dozen words of the thread title and non-quoted part of the OP combined) is a proclamation that CBS News is obviously biased toward Obama because the head of CBS Corp. supports Obama. The OP doesn’t say Moonves could influence the programming. He suggests that Moonves’ attendance at the fundraiser and his bloviating are proof that CBS News is in the bag for Obama. The implication is that CBS News’ biases would reflect the views of Moonves because he’s in charge of the news division, and he’s not. He’s in charge of the corporation. And for what it’s worth, Rupert Murdoch owns News Corp. Les Moonves doesn’t own CBS.