Ah, ok. Please excuse the remnants of my naive faith in humanity.
I am so sorry. I thought those got trampled in the aftermath of the insurrection.
What part was NOT weird? I’ve never broken into anyone’s house to beat someone with a hammer, nor have I had anyone break into my house to beat me … But the cops knock and the attacker allows his victim to open the door, then they just stand there. The posture does look odd to me, the way they are standing with Pelosi’s hand on the hammer and neither saying anything. Then the guy just goes medieval.
How could it have ended up any worse if Pelosi had said, “Help” and tried to lunge away? Of course, I assume he was hoping the cops would talk the guy down or something.
But yeah, how could anyone watch that and NOT think it looked weird?
Hammer attacks will always look weird (and horrific). There’s no “non-weird” hammer attack.
It’s weird only if you disbelieve the narrative for some reason.
Unless you’re saying that a deranged person is behaving in irrational ways. Quelle surprise.
Yep. Occam’s Razor.
The “official narrative” – IMHO – provides the best fit to the facts and evidence that we have so far.
And, to me, there simply is no second place here.
I was not assessing it in comparison to any “official narrative.” Solely from the point of view of seeing it and saying, “That is some weird shit.”
Apologies for not appreciating the subtleties of the ongoing discussion.
Just to be clear, my response wasn’t intended to single out your post. I was trying to speak to the general “alternative facts” out there in the right-wing blogosphere.
Which range from the sublime to the ridiculous.
ETA: and I see that you also weren’t necessarily responding to my comment 
Pelosi’s attacker called in to a TV station and doesn’t seem to show any remorse. Clearly he needs some help and I hope he gets it soon.
The actual attack part of it isn’t the weird part.
I interpreted that as a the cops having a WTF? moment. The scenario is odd. Sure, WE know what was going on and what happened but the cops didn’t at the time it was happening.
I was thinking more of the attacker and Pelosi just standing there - not appearing to struggle, with Pelosi’s hand on the hammer. I don’t question the cops thinking WTF?
This. The cops might have expected DePape to menace Pelosi with the hammer - but even though the scene before them wasn’t consensual, it wasn’t a violent struggle for the hammer. It was pretty reasonable for the cops to have been surprised by DePape going full-send on Pelosi.
Some of those less reliable source have indeed speculated this.
Was anyone else surprised by how quickly the attacker got into the house? The clip I saw from the outside camera looked to be about 15-20 seconds, from approaching the window to inside the house. I only saw this once and it might have been edited in some way.
I’m still astonished that someone that important and obviously targeted had so little security around her home.
Nancy Pelosi is high-profile and certainly targeted, but Paul Pelosi likely saw himself as not high-profile and not targeted. There were cameras at their home that were actively monitored by US Capitol Police, but only while Nancy was actually there; the break-in footage was only discovered after the fact when the USCP learned of the attack and reviewed the footage they had recorded. I think it’s likely there was also a stand-alone security system in place, but that Paul probably wasn’t using it when he was home alone. Where safety issues of any kind exist - whether it’s with power tools, guns, home security, or fire - vigilance incurs its own costs, and it’s easy to let your guard down when you’ve never experienced an actual incident. My guess is they’ll both be much more vigilant going forward, even after Nancy leaves office.
Perhaps that was the type of lock available when the door was hung.
Thanks for the Phineas Gage article. I read about it in Psychology 1300. I wondered how the bar was removed, and learned from the article that it passed through his head.
Yep, apparently the tamping iron went entirely through Mr. Gage on its own, no need for post-accident removal as it had already exited his braincase.
“Exited” is putting it mildly. It blasted through his head and landed 80 feet away.