NBC and Poor lil' Jonbenet. Freekin' let her rest!

The BBQ Pit
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I work the graveyard shift. I got up for work at 9:15 pm last night. My wife was watching Dateline. Usualy I enjoy this program. Not last night. Last nights show was a protracted look at some leathery old investigator and his “Intruder theory”. In fact the title of the program was “JonBenet Ramsy, The Intruder Theory”.

It has been five years since SOMEONE killed that little girl. Five years. The Boulder police department is still investigating the homicide, and probably always will. John and Patsy Ramsey are still suspects. No one but the person/s who killed that little girl knows who did it.

Five years.

So why in fucking hell do we need to hear all the details YET AGAIN!?!? Why do I need to start my day with graphic photos of little Jonbenet’s corpse? Why do we need to devote an hour of television air time to some old crackpot who has “worked closely with the investigators hired by the Ramseys”? Every little piece of “evidence”, save for the unidentified DNA in her undies and fingernails, points to a coverup. Why would a Kidnapper leave a long, drawn out ransom note demanding the same amount of cash as John Ramsey’s christmas bonus, then go to the trouble of HIDING THE BODY IN THE FREEKING HOUSE INSTEAD OF TAKING IT FOR THE RANSOM?!?!

Ya know what? I don’t even care if her parents are responsible somehow for her death. I just wish they would SHUT UP ABOUT IT! If I see Patsy Ramsey’s crocodile tearing face on the TV never again, it will be too fucking soon. Every time they go on TV or send one of their mouthpieces out to declare their innocence and Demand that the “Real Killersup[/sup]” be found, it just makes us all remember the whole sordid affair and hate them more. If not for killing thier daughter, then for making her into murder bait for some loon, if we are to believe their story.

End rant.

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Amen, brother.

You got it exactly right.

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Coming from a Brother Airman, (Tho I got out of the A.F. YEARS ago) that was true praise. Thank you.

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So I’m not the only one who thinks that WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much ink (and its televisual equivalent) has been spent on this from Day One. The usual Media Circus brought to a climax. Bromides to last a lifetime. Pseudo specialists speaking out of their other natural hole and really making a good living out of this.

Yes, the murder of the Ramsey child is a tragedy; yes, its author(s) should be brought to justice and be made to pay for their crime. Aside from an occasional recap on the progress of the investigation or lack of it, this should have been the extent to which the media should have confined itself regarding this matter. Irregularities during an investigation? Yeah, like that’s something new…

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Would this much attention be given to a poor, non-white little boy that was murdered? Come on- let it go, media! I don’t know what emotions we’re supposed to feel here. I am sorry that little girl was killed- I really am.
Did anyone here read about the little Vietnamese girl from my area that was kidnapped, chopped up and left for dead about 15 miles away from her home 5 or 6 years ago? No? I wonder why. I guess she wasn’t pretty, rich or white. No media interest there. ::shrug::

Things like this make me glad I don’t use my TV for anything but movies. The media’s sense of importance makes me sick.

Zette

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Hey! They are desperately looking for the Real Killer©. Just like O.J. is. You all should have more compassion.

(What do I put here? A sarcastic face? A wink smiley? Somehow, sadly, neither seems appropriate. . . . )

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What angers me is seeing her face splashed over the tabloids, “Jon-Benet sends message from Beyond the grave”…
UGH!

I’m sorry, her parents pimped her little face all over the place. I remember watching tv, and seeing a bleached blond forty year old woman vamping it up all over some stage. THEN, I looked more closely. Said forty year old was FIVE year old Jon-Benet.

WHY don’t those little girls in the pageants dress up like Shirley Temple and sing On the Good Ship Lollipop or Somewhere Over the Rainbow?
What’s up with THAT?

UGH!

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Now I’m just a simple australian, so can I check that my understanding is correct?

(I have read the book by the police officer who resigned from that state’s police force over this issue. Cite tomorrow if you really want it. but I don’t think you do.

The child was sexually abused and killed, and her parents are almost certainly involved. Because of their wealth and influence, and the poor police procedures, they have not been questioned at all and will escape paying for their crime, if any.

But - it’s boring.

They have got away with it for this long, why not let it just rest? After all we are no longer enthralled by it, and plenty of worse things happen.

And she wasn’t even that attractive a child, and performed inappropriate routines in her beauty pageants.

All in all the loss of this life doesnt affect us greatly, so why not leave the issue alone.

She doesn’t matter.

Well, I get your point of view, but I disagree.

I’ve never been a father, but I have hugged kids when playing with them, and felt that little fragile body in my arms, and thought how terrible it is to hurt or damage such an unprotected, vulnerable, trusting and loving being.

And I always thought that people who did have children, and who have experienced deep love for a child, would fight to protect any child at risk.

Guess to you guys I’m wrong. But I’ll stick with my take on it.

Which means I still feel outrage that the national justice system has failed this child, doesn’t care to right things, and that the nation itself is angry less with the perpetrators than with those who remind them of the lack of justice, and the child herself.

“Don’t tell us; we’re bored already, and she deserved it.”
Disappointedly,

Redboss

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Now I’m just a simple australian, so can I check that my understanding is correct?

(I have read the book by the police officer who resigned from that state’s police force over this issue. Cite tomorrow if you really want it. but I don’t think you do.

The child was sexually abused and killed, and her parents are almost certainly involved. Because of their wealth and influence, and the poor police procedures, they have not been questioned at all and will escape paying for their crime, if any.

But - it’s boring.

They have got away with it for this long, why not let it just rest? After all we are no longer enthralled by it, and plenty of worse things happen.

And she wasn’t even that attractive a child, and performed inappropriate routines in her beauty pageants.

All in all the loss of this life doesnt affect us greatly, so why not leave the issue alone.

She doesn’t matter.

Well, I get your point of view, but I disagree.

I’ve never been a father, but I have hugged kids when playing with them, and felt that little fragile body in my arms, and thought how terrible it is to hurt or damage such an unprotected, vulnerable, trusting and loving being.

And I always thought that people who did have children, and who have experienced deep love for a child, would fight to protect any child at risk.

Guess to you guys I’m wrong. But I’ll stick with my take on it.

Which means I still feel outrage that the national justice system has failed this child, doesn’t care to right things, and that the nation itself is angry less with the perpetrators than with those who remind them of the lack of justice, and the child herself.

“Don’t tell us; we’re bored already, and she deserved it.”
Disappointedly,

Redboss

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Did you ever leaf through The Onion’s “Finest News Reporting”? They had a fake news story about an unattractive child whose death in no way bothered anyone.

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Redboss, that’s not the issue here. Yes, a wrong was done. Yes, it is a terrible thing.

However, it has turned into a means of exploitation. The tabloids over here plaster some new bullshit about it on a weekly basis. The news media play it to death. And we’re all suckers, thinking that each time they say something about it, it will serve to provide some justice.

Well, they’ve cried wolf too many times now. I can’t listen to another minute of endless speculation and innuendo.

I’m sorry she’s dead. So is everyone else. But lots of murders go unsolved. So it’s time to let her rest in peace, or find her killers and get her some justice. Since that’s not likely to happen, I say hoist a few in her memory and stop sensationalizing the brutal murder of an innocent girl.

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The irony is that even if they discovered who actually did it, the investigation was so bungled by an inept police force and the water hopelessly muddied by an overzealous media that a conviction would be impossible.

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Well I think what happened to that little girl was an abomination against all that is good and pure and decent in the world. No, I don’t mean the murder – I mean the beauty pageant stuff. Her parents, and the parents of other children who compete in these pageants, are deeply sick people to do that to their own children. They ought to be locked up just for that.

As for the murder, I think the culprit is clear:

OJ did it.

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Has anyone seen the story of the 11-year-old Indiana girl and her 28-year-old school principal? He kidnapped her/she ran off with him/something in between. I don’t think the media could have done more to convey the sexual aspects of the case if they tried. So they caught the guy, and the girl is coming home - does the whole freakin’ country need to know that “doctors examined her and their worst fears were confirmed?”

Didn’t mean to hijack, but it reminded me of the whole JonBenet Ramsey deal. The utter objectification of a child.

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Redboss I think that I didn’t make myself clear to you. I am not saing that any of this is boring. I am saying that it is reprehensible that a tv news, (that’s NEWS) program should spend an hour on the convoluted, contrived theory of some old investigator in an attempt to garner ratings. Nothing that was said in that program was NEWS. Hell it wasn’t even NEW. It has been Five years. Five years of seeing that little girl’s face on news stands, to sell tabloids. Five years of seeing her face on “news programs” to sell whatever the advertisers are selling in their comercials. Five years of the Media using this little girls death as a fucking cash cow. Did NBC air this program because startling new evidence had been uncovered? No. They aired it because they new that if it was presented right in the ads, (fooling the population into thinking that NBC had some exclusive news on new evidence.)that it would be ratings GOLD. So millions of people tune in, hoping that this is it, that it will finaly be over because of new evidence. Instead they put on this guy, with ties to the Ramsey’s investigative team, who has a theory that “an intruder” MIGHT have done it, based on all the same evidence that we have heard over and over and over again, and all the while lamely trying to discredit the SCADS of evidence pointing at Jonbenet’s parents. It was pointless. It was sensationalistic. It was obscene. And it is THAT which I am not bored with, but tired of. Tired to the very core of my being. She is no longer a victim. She is a media bonanza.

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While currently in Northwest Indiana, and reading both local newspapres with total coverage of this case, the only things they haven’t told us are the girl’s favorite colors, and what television shows she likes to watch.

They mentioned the examinations she had undergone, the results thereof, the hunches of her brother, every emotion her parents felt, they got comments from just about everybody, they printed a few comments from his diary, interviewed his parents, church parishoners and local pets.

There is a column in the Post-Tribune where you can call in to say anything and it will be printed, thos is referred to as Quickly and the following little gem appears in today’s Quickly!

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First, sorry about the double post.

I take your point particle mate. I guess it just was unfortunate that you used the phrase “poor lil’ Jonbenet” in the thread title, and somone posted about her poor choice of songs, and I got the impression that folk had lost a sense of respect for her as a child that had been treated shamefully.

oh well…

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A year or 3 ago, I asserted the** fact **that if all human life is sacred, it has infinite value. This is a moral principle, which I refuse to debate. And if all human lives have infinite value, they all have equal value. I said that, therefore , the murder of the late President John Fitzgerald Kennedy was no more and no less a tragedy that the drive-by shooting of a small black child in the ghetto. I also asserted the opinion that if the conspiracy nuts were really interested in Justice, some of them would spend some time chasing down the murderers of the unknown and friendless of the world.

I was hooted out of the thread & out of this forum.

Now, the JonBenet case seems to be causing you to rethink some of the ideas I put forward.

I re-iterate: whether it is a President, a JonBenet, or the tragedy of an innocent gunned down in a drive-by, the loss of life is morally equal, and equally morally unacceptable.

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Bosda: And that has what, exactly, to do with the OP?

Gee, I seem to recall seeing a thread just recently about people exploiting a tragedy for their own personal aggrandizement. Where did I see that?

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Yes. But you’re omitting what really supercedes everything else for the media people. It was broadcast during sweeps month!!