I would say fuck you and hope I didn’t need his help again. Only a real piece of shit would make an offer like that and he certainly would have no integrity.
When I was a young mechanic it was not uncommon to be offered sex for work on a ladies car. They didn’t offer as much when I got older. I accepted the offer a few times but never pressed them to pay up. Only once that I can think of did a girl come by at closing time specifically to pay up. We had already been flirting with each other for awhile anyway so it wasn’t really awkward.
I always felt sorry for young single mothers so really didn’t mind doing them a favor anyway.
Would you say she was sleeping with you to get a discount, or that she wanted to sleep with you anyway and the discount was simply a bonus?
This is basically what I thought. If Sean saves me, and I’m later saying I’m so grateful and don’t know how I can thank him, and he says “I know of a way” with a nudge and a wink, I’d probably be up for it. But the extortion in this scenario creeps me out too much. Even if I really did mean to follow through on it, I’d probably go back to his place and just get too grossed out and leave before anything happened.
I agree. Men believing they are owed sex from women is not exactly unheard of in the real world, like because the guy bought dinner, or it’s been three dates, or they’re married. In this case the guarantee of sex is just more explicit. In any of those cases, the woman has the moral and ethical right to turn down or stop the sex at any point. And of course it’s the same with whatever combination of genders.
Are you sure this was your life, and not a Levi’s ad with a shirtless hunk of a mechanic in tight fitting jeans?
The only time I was offered sex for services the woman looked like that was how she took care of all her debts, and she was visiting me at the end of a loooong day paying bills. I politely explained the different credit cards we accepted. She decided to take her business elsewhere.
I guess it’s “a thing”.
It’s no more than a variant spelling of “stinker.” I’ve been using it for years on the SDMB, and no one has complained before.
Eh, though, “Stinktard” is a different kettle of stink. That evokes “retard” and might best be avoided.
If he/she wants to be a hero, hooray. America loves heroes. If he/she wants to be safe, that’s okay too. Everyone has a right to look out for number one.
It’s the placing of conditions that makes him/her stink. That’s just plain slimy.
I assumed kayaker’s complaint about bad language was a joke, no?
If not, we’re all in deep stinky doo-doo.
It was mutual
Of course. With all the f-bombs I drop in real life, I have no room to complain.![]()
Oh, thank god! I was actually totally whooshed, and thought you had actually reported me for using the word. I apologize for not trusting you enough to presume it was but a quip.
“A promise extracted under duress is no promise at all. Fuck off.”
Nope. Mother Nature put me in distress, Sean put me under duress.
Nope
Yep.
Yes.
Yes.
You’re not impressed if I lie to Sean, then bash her head in with a brick and tell everyone the earthquake did it? I thought that was pretty ruthless.
“I’m under no obligation to fulfill a promise made under duress. Furthermore, it was an asshole move to even ask for the promise. This kind of creepy, desperate shit is why you can’t get a date in the first place, Sean.”
Once all that had sunk in and been acknowledged, I might have sex with Sean anyway, because I like sex and have no other commitments and few hangups. (Frankly, it’s unlikely that I would have rebuffed them the first time, but I won’t fight the hypothetical.) It depends on how they reacted to the lecture. With luck, it might serve as a “teachable” moment; they were already risking their life to help someone before the creep moment, which suggests there might be something reachable under the bad behavior. If not, oh well. Redemption is not for everyone.
Please don’t take this as an insult, but keeping your word doesn’t seem tomean much to you.
I agree that the promise of sex is different than the promise of money, because the right to control when one does not have sex is absolute. But the freedom to abrogate financial obligations is bullshit.
I’ll ask you what I’ve asked a few others, friend Dibble. If I go to the doctor with a life-threatening condition, and the doctor tell me the treatment will cost $5,000 for them to provide and thus they want %6,000 from me to do it (no typo there, that’s profit), and I agree to that sum, AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY, may I refuse to pay up later? If yes, why? If no, why is this situation different from Sean’s request to Bill Gates?
How is a man’s life not worth a million dollars. if he has the million to pay? How is it right to expect Sean to risk death while planning to deny him compensation?
Disclaimer: Haven’t read the rest of the thread.
I’d tell Sean to piss off. I don’t owe her sex just because she saved my life. Besides, if she’s crazy enough to suggest something like that in such an extreme situation, you know it’s not just going to be a one-time thing.
With the solution being the well known Ted Cruz maneuver ![]()
I’d keep the promise.
It’s just sex. I like my wanker but I don’t keep it on a 40 foot tall pedestal.