Need advice on video production

I’m looking for some advice on a project that I know very little about, and I’m hoping the SDMB community can help me out.

I’m an experienced cabinetmaker, and I’ve often answered people’s questions about construction. A number of people have suggested that I make instructional videos. The idea is agreeable to me, but I haven’t the slightest idea what I would need in order to do it.

First, I would need to shoot the video. To my (inexperienced) mind this means I’ll need:
A studio- For lack of a better name, a place to shoot the video. (my shop will do nicely)
A camera- Will a camera available to me in the electronics store be good enough?
Lights- I am not sure what I’ll need here.
Sound equipment- ditto the above
A cameraman/soundman- What will this person’s qualifications have to be.

Later I will have to edit the video. I am not familiar with this process. I don’t know what I’ll need.

After that I will have to reproduce numerous copies of the same. I don’t know how to do this either. By the way DVD technology is acceptable, possibly even preferred.

Quick-n-easy way:

  1. Get an iMac with a DVD burner (“Superdrive”), a digital camcorder, some camcorder tapes, a tripod, and (optional) some good lights.

  2. Have a friend operate the camera. Have this friend record you as you demonstrate each step of the cabinet-making process. Use at least two shots for each step, to show things from a different angle, close-ups of key steps, etc. Anything that you think is interesting or noteworthy should be recorded.

  3. Connect the camcorder to the iMac with a Firewire/IEEE1394 cable (should come with the camcorder).

  4. Use iMovie (included with the Mac) to copy the footage to the computer. Use iMovie to edit and rearrange the video as desired. Add transitions, titles, and special effects as desired. If this idea scares you, go through the iMovie tutorial to learn the basics of video editing (it only takes an hour or so).

  5. Use iDVD (included with the Mac) to put the movie to a DVD disc. Choose a theme, create titles, and arrange buttons as desired. When you’re ready, burn the DVD.
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  6. Use iMovie and your camcorder to record your completed video to videotape.

  7. Enjoy your video and share with friends.
    If you want something to read while pondering these steps, I recommend iMovie 3 & iDVD: The Missing Manual It’s part of the excellent “Missing Manual” series of computer instruction books, written by New York Times columnist David Pogue, whose style is consistently clear, entertaining, and educational. The book covers all aspects of the video-making process, from shooting footage with the camcorder to editing it with the Mac.

(And given how inexperienced you are with video editing, a Mac is highly recommended for the job. You’ve got enough to worry about without the extra burden of trying to do this on a Windows PC. :wink: ).

Personal anecdote: my first computer-edited video was made on Thanksgiving, November 2000, when my wife insisted I do something for the family dinner that evening. I had absolutely no experience in video editing, but I went through the iMovie tutorial in an hour, then spent three hours creating a 15-minute family video, complete with musical soundtracks, professional transitions, and animated titles. A cabinetmaking how-to video would require a little more planning, but it wouldn’t be much different.

The basics you’ll need are

  • Digital video camera
  • Firewire port
  • Editing software
  • Hard drive space… and lots of it.
  • A stong computer with extra memory.
  • Time.

I’ve found there is some very good entry-level video editing software out there. There is a learning curve, but it’s not too bad. I don’t subscribe to the mac vs pc thing, so I say just use whatever format you have or feel more comfortable with.

The concept of digital video editing is pretty simple. Everything works with clips of footage. The software allows you to line them up. Now sometimes you’ll have a clip that is 1 minute but you don’t want the first 10 seconds. The software allows you to say when that one clip is to start and end. You can insert fades between clips or just do a basic jump from one to the next.

For lighting and sound, I would just play around. Do some test runs and see how it looks. If it needs more light, add some. It should be pretty easy as you’re shooting in one location.

You can make a cheap but effective lighting rig with cheap tripods and an umbrella painted with reflective paint on the inside. Mount a light to the umbrella handle pointing into the umbrella, mount the whole thing on the tripod and away you go.

Sound can be tricky in a workshop because of reflective areas (which would make your voice sound hollow or echoy ). The best bet (short of a soundguy and a boom mic) would be a clip-on type mic which would plug into the camera. You could use a wired one at first and later move to wireless.

What camera to buy is tricky. Yes, some in an electronic store would work pretty good. There are some very nice high end cameras out there. Some will take a nice dent out of your pocket as well. Whatever the camera, make sure it is DV and has firewire attachments (which I think ALL DV cameras do at this point). Analog dumps to the computer take forever and are a real pain in the butt. With DV you can do batch captures where you set the times you want to capture and walk away while the computer does the rest. Piece of cake.

The only other advice I could offer on the camera is one that does a good job at close ups. Considering what you’re doing I suppose there would be tons of that. I’ve found some lower end cameras almost seem to take the best picture from 4 feet away.

I don’t know how much you’d need a soundguy, but an extra hand on the camera would be nice.

Video takes up lots of space on the computer. (I just started a new video project and just bought a 120 gig drive to handle it.) Just make sure you have plenty of room before you start the project.

I would get the basics, dump some video clips into the computer and play around. I think at that point you’d know if this is something you want to go further with.

Study how shots on do-it-yourself TV shows are set up. How they film the angles, where the camera is, etc. This will give you an idea on good ways to set up your own shots. This might sound kind of silly, but it will help.

Can I encrypt (maybe that’s the right word/concept) some sort of code into the video so that it cannot be copied. This is intended to be a “for sale” product.
That’s also why I was wondering if I could get, or if I would need a drive that could burn lots of these things at once. A single drive on a home computer might not be enough.

I’m a professional cameraman/Director of Photography. The advice to use iMovie, or a similar simple software package is fine. Let me address some of your other questions.

There are some basic things to keep in mind, and if you can do so, you will likely wind up with an excellent looking/sounding video. I’ll break it down by area of Production.

  1. Pre-Production. Write an outline. You are doing an instructional video, you know your craft. DO NOT write a word for word script, it’ll hang you up, you will obsess over it and it will make for a wooden and unnatural presentation. You’re the expert. You can talk to a visitor to your home for hours about cabinetmaking. So, go with what you know. The outline will become the Shooting Script ( Opposed to speaking script ). That is very helpful.

What do you wish to do the video on? Chose a project where you can either A) Take weeks/months, and slowly shoot tape as the project unfolds, or B) a project where you have access to various versions, in various stages of completion, at the same time. You know the cooking shows? Those lovely brown turkeys, they’re pre-baked. Same idea. Nobody wants to watch paint dry, so have each major step ready to shoot, or as I said, shoot it slowly over time.

Find just a few people to help. Too many people on a small shoot begats a lot of chiefs and no workers. Nobody likes moving furniture, setting lights or adjusting angles ( well, I do…:wink: ). They all wanna tell you how to do it. Be firm in what you want, and before the shoot day, you will meet with your cameraperson, and plan out how to shoot the pieces. Find somebody with experience. What city are you in, I may be able to help you there. Email me, ok?

On the shoot day, find a separate area from the workshop, to stage the shoot in. Camera, lighting gear, food, accessories, people’s personal stuff. Regard your workshop as a t.v. studio, and respect its lack of space. Every inch of it will show on camera.

When sitting with your D.P., make shot lists. Organize shots and angles to cover every aspect of each step. I dunno cabinetry, but I can take a shot at this, having done a lot of home wood furniture repairs. If my details are bullshit, the idea will come across anyway, ok? I’ll do a sample outline in a bit.

  1. Lighting. Your workshop likely has either a mixed source of daylight and fluorescents, or all fluorescents. Maybe the odd bright Tensor or something. Remember that normal fluorescent lights are NOT the color of daylight. While your video camera may be able to resolve something approaching decent color, it is a lovely idea to go to Home Depot and buy Full Color Daylight fluorescent tubes for all of your units. The colors will all look better, and are easier on the eyes and brain anyway. ( Truth ). Don’t turn them on for the first time on the shoot day, they will hum for 3 or 4 hours as they set in. Run them for a few days first.

  2. Camera. There are people out there with good looking 3- chip Mini DV Cameras that deliver an amazing image, if well-lit. Your video will be well-lit. In addition to the overhead fluorescent units, buy a ready-made workshop light. You know, 2 bulbs, 4 feet long. find a way to have it standing , facing you. Mount it on a stand of some kind, at eye level. You will need this, to light yourself and the work from in front. The overheads won’t cut it, you will look ghoulish and the work will not look nice. If you have to go with a consumer grade camera, then make sure your cameraperson understands how to use it fully. Manual focus for every shot. How to adjust the sound input levels, and so on. Make SURE you play back each scene after taping it, so that you A) Know the images stuck, and B) Feel you have covered it well. Sometimes it’s a verbal mistake, and you can cover that by just re-speaking the lines and know you have B-Roll to cover the edit. Always check your work before saying you’re done with a scene.

3A. Sound. Your cameraperson should have a good microphone. Now, if you are given a so-called lavalier ( A body-mounted mike ), you need to know that any scratching, banging against it or heavy breathing towards it will ruin the sounds. If you are moving around a lot, this is still a best choice for sound. If you have a boom mike, and just position it aimed at one area before you start, and you are moving around a plane, table saw or piece of furniture, you risk moving “off-mike”, and having hollow or uneven sound. A body mike is fine, just have it clipped so it is seen. Don’t worry, this isn’t a movie. Having it on TOP of your clothing eliminates the risk of having clothing rustle ruin a take. Trust me, many great moments are re-done because of a mike rustle.

  1. Do some dry-runs with somebody’s home camcorder, just so you can get a feel for how it feels to DO this. Get comfortable with talking to the camera, it’s a very odd thing to try to do well. Do it over and over, with the same basic speech about how you start out with the wooden planking, or whatever. NOT to memorize, but to get a patter and rhythm down that works for you. Play it back, don’t be nice to yourself. Be hypercritical, find the elements that don’t feel right in terms of your speech and presentation and fix them BEFORE THE SHOOT DAY. Saves a lot of exhaustion and time, and on the shoot day you will be fresh and confident about how you will appear, scene to scene.

  2. Just as you prep a woodworking job, prep this job. Do you have more than enough supplies? Duplicates of ALL tools you will need, in case something fails?

  3. The shoot day. Turn off the phones, doorbell and cellular/beepers. You want it quiet in there, with no aural distractions. Breakfast is nice. :slight_smile: Get someone you trust to watch everything on a t.v. set. The camera you are having used will have a video out jack, run the cable off to one side, or into the next room. That way, this person is not staring at you as well as the monitor. They will watch for content as well as how smoothly you work.

  4. If you are forced to only use one set of materials, instead of duplicates, then you are going to have to plan really carefully, and it will take longer to shoot it properly.

Here’s what I mean. You can take a door to an armoire. It’s a split door, two panels hinged vertically along the outside edges with hidden hinges. The two doors are beautiful and have much engraving and moulding. There are layers to the undercoats, color coats and glazing.

If you have a few sets of that door, you can show it raw, then with the woodwork done, then with the paint and glazing done- all in sequence, but not with the added wait time for you to DO the work, allow it to dry, etc. This is idea.

If you have just one set of doors, then shoot in sequence, there is no going back. Plan to do something, but not ALL of the step. If you are planing the edges, plane in a wide shot to show how you clamp down the work vertically, then you will have to get several angles of B-Roll ( cut away shots ) shots showing how you apply the plane, hold it, how the plane can move smoothly with the right motion, etc.

If you plan out each sequence of the show, you will wind up anticipating where you will want lots of B-Roll shots, and then will know where and when to stop doing a task, and reset the camera for a new angle.

It is sometimes helpful to use an overhead view. With woodworking this may not be strictly necessary, however it is a nice idea before the shoot day to either prep an overhead shot, OR get an A-Frame ladder and figure out how to attach the camera securely to it, so you can do fairly high-angle views of your work. As you brush on the pain to the door sections, if the door is laying flat, a high angle works nicely.

A cheap good way to get the true overhead view, is to mount a mylar mirror panel off the ceiling of the work room. You can buy this at Home Depot, it is a good mirror, but not dangerous like glass mirrors are. Then, you can zoom INTO that while standing on the floor, and get a bird’s eye view of the work happening below. Fair warning- the mirrors used for Martha Stewart and the likes are roughly 4 feet long, and 3 feet wide. ( I used to work that show. ).

Take breaks. This isn’t a music video shoot ( yech ). Pace yourself, you are doing the work, and need to make sure you look awake and happy, and focused at 8pm, just like you did at 8 am. If you can afford to, do it over a two day weekend. This will allow paint to dry, and allow you and your crew to rest.

If you are using an inexperienced cameraperson, there are a few good things to keep in mind. The difference between amateur and professional isn’t just in the gear, it’s in the presentation and the pacing. Don’t rush your words, and don’t rush your hands. When your cameraperson is shooting you speaking and doing, make sure you BOTH silently count to five after you finish a sentence. Believe it or not, get used to holding your gaze as you finish talking to the camera, or as you finish, return to the task at hand and keep going for at least 5 seconds before the camera is cut, and before you stop doing the task. This allows videotape for the edit process, you cannot just finish a thought and say "Cut ! ". And yes, get into the habit of saying “Cut!”. It helps when scrolling highspeed through the video later, to hear that word as it flies by.

The B-Roll shots will make or break your show. If you watch a show, and try this today- find a home craft show similar to what you want to do. Video tape a segment. It’ll run 5-8 minutes if the show is on network t.v. Then, with the sound off, count just the B-Roll cutaway shots, not the ones where you can see the craftsperson doing their thing.

We are used to being shown great detail when we watch t.v. We lose interest fast. You will need many angles, and lots of minutes of B-Roll for each segment. Make sure your cameraperson understands this. If they are new to it, make them practice locking off the camera. Totally. A jiggle image will make people lose interest, and looks cheesy. If the tripod and head are not quality, then work around it, and just lock the shot, and do a little slow zooming. Don’t zoom in every shot, it’s nauseating after a while.

Don’t be afraid to shoot VERY close. That means the tripod will move around a lot. Make sure it’s not just zoomed in or out but left in one spot- that’s deadly. Different angles and shots are key. For a one-minute segment, you could literally need 20-30 different shots to chose from. 10 will not work for some reason, that leaves you 10-20. You will use them all, and wish you had even more.

Depending on the cost of the camera/cameras, it is HIGHLY advisable to use two cameras. One is shooting you, one is going for tons of B-Roll shots. That B Roll camera cannot be moved around while you are talking, it will need to be pre-set for each segment, but it has the advantage of being able to zoom in and out, and pick off great shots AS you do them, instead of recreating the moment again a few minutes later for close-ups.

As you finish up one videotape, push the Record Tab out, so there is zero chance of recording over it by accident. And, label everything well. The main camera is A, the B-Roll camera is B. So, you will have a pile of A-1, A-2, A-3 and B-1, B-2, B-3 and so on. Before the shoot day, you will have taken more than enough videotapes, and blacked them. That is to say, you take a brand new videotape, and put it into the camera, and roll record. Let it record through the ENTIRE videotape, with the lens cap on. Insane you say? Nope. Almost all computer-based edit systems have fits and starts, if there is a “break” in the electronic timecode that is laid down when you shoot videotape. That can happen if you take a virgin tape, and start and stop a lot. To prevent this kind of computer headache, you Black your tapes before shoot day, thus having made a black image ( or, whatever the camera is looking at as you roll it. I do it with the lens cap on, so there isn’t an image there to confuse me later ). Since you have now recorded video end to end–and rewound each tape back to the head !!!–, you can start and stop the cameras on the shoot day, safe in the knowledge that there are no timecode breaks in the videotape to make life hell later on.

Don’t edit your own work, it’s hard not to be in love with every shot. I edit my own demo reels, and am mercilessly cruel about my footage. Something I adored on Monday becomes total crap by Wednesday and is cut. That’s hard to do, when you’re new at it. Sit with your editor, and work through the footage. He or she will have edited before ( this is a complex project, and NOT one to be done by a novice editor).

If the goal is a one-hour show, then you must know this before hand. Can you MAKE a cabinet show in an hour, end to end? Do you need more time? Will it drag, if you allow an hour- is it a 30 minute show instead? Only you can say.

That’s about all I can think of right now, I know I threw out a lot at once. Print this out, read through it as you prep your shoot and feel free to email me with any other questions.

Oh- have fun with this. I bitch and whine incessantly when at work, it’s awful and a bad habit. The truth is that I adore being a cameraman, there is almost always SOMETHING new and cool to see or try, for each day of work. I bet you’re going to do great.

Cartooniverse

A high volume DVD burner is a fortune. Find a good DVD processor company, I can help you with that. If your first video sells insanely well, then maybe you can burn them yourself. Put some care into the packaging, you will want VERY high resolution stills to be shot while you shoot your video- for use on the package. Cheesy images will turn people off, they expect really fine presentation at the store or on the Web when buying.

As for Copyguarding, it’s expensive and sometimes winds up making for dark moments in your video…

Not sure about other DVD authoring programs, but about copyguarding, iDVD will let you insert a watermark “bug” – like those network logos you see in the corner of TV programs – into your final DVD. That might be sufficient for your needs.

And Cartooniverse is right about shooting lots of footage. Even for an unplanned amateur home video (such as a vacation), I shoot everything that’s interesting, then go home and cherry-pick the best shots – which requires throwing away 3/4ths of my footage. Just remember that film (tapes) is cheap, but once you’ve lost the moment, you can’t re-create it again.

Plenty of people will post here with advice on what equipment to buy, so let me contribute by giving you two other tips.

  1. Good sound and lighting separates the men from the boys. And FYI, decent lighting is more about techinque then money, and decent sound is more about money than technique. In other words, you can buy cheap lights and use them very effectively if you learn how; and you can buy a cheap mic and it will never sound good.

  2. Watch a lot of how-to shows, videos and infomercials. They are all corny and formulaic – but unless they are REALLY dreadful they are all pretty effective in teaching the viewer something. You want to learn the formula, duplicate it and adapt it to your topic – SO PAY ATTENTION. (If you find one that particularly suits your subject matter and style use it as your main guide.)

When do they stay in a wide shot, when do they go in tight; when do they breeze by a step, when do they dwell on something in detail; when do they cut to a graphic or animation; when do they talk you through something, when do they show you instead; when is it a team effort (A teaching B on camera), when is it a solo act (A alone teaching the viewers)? All these things are conscious decisions you will have to make.

I’ll tell you one thing that will surprise you: the scripts to these shows are shorter and punchier then you think – more like bullet points than windy narratives. Tight declarative, non-compound sentences are best. Let your pictures do the talking when you can.

I don’t do it for a living, but I’ve worked on a number of shoots; from grip to First Unit Photography. A friend of mine wants me to DP his next feature project. And I’ve been paid from time to time, so that kinda-sorta counts as “professional”. :wink:

Cartooniverse gives excellent advice. I must say though, that I’m not a fan of zooming. It has its place, but it’s easy to overuse it.

On a video shoot you can often get acceptable results from “shop lights”; but it would be better to have actual “movie lights”. I have a tone of lights. (Well, a couple hundred pounds of lights anyway.) My primary kit is a Lowel DP Remote Kit. This has three 1,000 watt lights with stands, scrim, barndoors, etc. It’s really a nice kit, but it retails for a couple grand. You can get used ones on eBay, but they still go for rather high prices. IMO Lowel equipment can’t be beat for small/low-budget productions.

I also have a Colortran kit. These are (physically) smaller lights and are limited to 600w. I got my last Colortran kit, consisting of two Mini Broad and two Mini Spot lights with stands, barndoors and a case, from a seller on eBay for $300. Much cheaper than a Lowel kit!

If possible, do get good lights. If not, take Cartooniverse’s advice about the full colour tubes.

What are “barndoors”? Those are the flaps you see on movie lights. They are used to “cut” the lights – i.e., to keep the light from going where it isn’t wanted. You’ll also want gels and scrims. Gels are acetate sheets that you can put in front of the lights. Usually we think of coloured gels, but you can get diffusing gels as well. Scrim can be sheets of “silk”. They go under the names “Silk Flex”, “Silk Spin”, etc. These sheets go in front of the lights (and they can often – but not always – be clothespinned to the barndoors) to diffuse the light. There are also wire screen scrims. These scrims attach to the lights to cut their intensity without diffusing it. A good thing about the Lowel kits is that they have frames to hold gels and scrims, so you don’t need a seperate stand (like a “C-stand”) to hold a flag.

Why am I talking so much about lights? Because lighting will make or break your production. Here is the first page I turned up on lighting. You can search on “film lighting “key light” “fill light”” for more pages. This is obvious, but I’ll say it anyway: If you put a harsh light in front of your subject, it will cast a harsh shadow behind it. Doesn’t look good. You need to use diffusion materials to soften the lights, and place the lights carefully. It takes some practise. Set up your lights and look at what your camera is picking up. You can use the video camera to help you get rid of unwanted shadows, “hot” spots, etc.

Different shooters like different shots. My friend likes dynamic hand-held shots, while I prefer to concentrate on pre-planned angles and like to use a tripod. An instructional video will be better shot with a tripod. My old standby tripod is a Bogen 3021 with a 3063 head. Mine is equipped with a Bogen 3502 Ball Camera Leveller. I’ve supported my Eclair NPR with it, but it’s really more suited to smaller cameras (e.g., video cameras). I really want a more “professional” set of sticks, but they can be expensive. My adequate setup can be had for a few hundred dollars, and they are often found on eBay (without the leveller) at fair prices.

Do rehearse. I hate it when the talking head sounds as if it’s reading from queue cards. Try to be natural. Don’t be boring. I have a nice set of instructional videos (So You Want To Fly Helicopters? from Sporty’s Pilot Shop) that are very good. Except. Except that there are a couple of places where they try to be “funny”. The delivery sucks. If you want to tell a little joke, make sure you can deliver it naturally. If you can’t, leave it out.

Do get B-roll footage. As Cartooniverse says, this will spice things up a bit. And as he says, a second camera will be good if you can get it.

Take time setting up the shot. Don’t just throw a shot together; craft it as you would a fine piece of furniture. Craftsmanship shows.

stuyguy is right about the sound. My friend’s first feature had the DP’s son as the sound recordist. He was using an ancient Nagra and a so-so mic. My friend ended up looping about 90% of the dialog. Much of the problem was with the technique, but they would have had much better sound and would have saved thousands of dollars if they had had better equipment.

With the lights, you can do a lot with a little if you set them right.

My thanks to everybody.
Excellent contributions!

Cartooniverse, I salute you; very well thought out post! I will e-mail you.
I usually act with mercy, except toward myself. I won’t have any problem editing garbage out of a video. I do think it’s a good idea to watch how to shows for an idea of the procedures and pacing, etc.

Get yourself a Matrox RT.X10 Xtra and you won’t need:

[ul][li] a Mac - just an upgrade of your PC based on the system requirements, either recommended or minimum.[/li][li] a DV-1394 camera - the breakout cable supports analog I/O, so you can use any old analog camcorder, but there’s a 1394 port on the card anyway if you already have a DV cam[/li][li] to purchase a editing application - RT.X10 Xtra is bundled with Adobe Premiere Pro.[/li][li] a DVD authoring program - RT.X10 Xtra is bundled with DVDIt! SE.[/li][li] a ton of time waiting for your effects to render - most everything is in real time. This is a definite advantage when you’re just starting with video editing and can’t imagine in your head how effects will look before you render.[/li][li] excellent documentation that I wrote in part and designed the styles for. :smiley: [/ul][/li]
Recommended price (including Premiere and DVDIt!): $599 USD.

Also, realtime color correction and chroma/luma level adjusting can save your ass when crappy lighting was used during recording and it’s too late to go back and re-film it.

Excellent thoughts all around, Johnny. I was approaching from the p.o.v. of zero access to professional gear, and almost zero budget. Your thoughts on lighting are salient, and should be re-read by the OP’er !

I suggested zooming, rather than trying to walk in closer for close-ups. THAT’D be harsh. :wink:

You use an NPR??? Be still my aching heart. I used an ACL a few times. Ever had the opportunity to cut real spun, opposed to the more modern synthetic stuff? God, nothing glows like real spun.

Thanks, Cartooniverse.

Re: zooming. I see what you mean. I was thinking about zooming during the shot. It’s certainly much easier to zoom (prior to filming/taping) than to move the sticks.

The NPR is about the best value you can get in a silent 16mm camera. It’s heavy though! I’d really like to have an Aaton XTR Prod, but I don’t have a spare 40 kilobucks lying about at the moment for a used kit. Even though the Aaton LTR 7 had some overheating problems (solved with the LTR-54) when used heavily, I wouldn’t mind one of those. Still $8,000 to $10,000 is a bit much right now.

But what I’d really like is an Aaton A-Minima. Wotta camera! Although it’s limited to 200-foot rolls, it’s about the size of a 3-chip DV camera. Last time I checked, the body cost around $12,500. Really, really nice camera!

One of the coolest things I’ve seen lately is the Ikonoskop A-Cam. This is a super-16 camera with a 100-foot internal load. It’s not a silent camera, so you’d only use it for MOS. It doesn’t have a crystal motor, but the electronically-governed motor is said to be accurate to about one frame in 45 seconds. No reflex viewfinder, but I have a Som-Berthiot zoom lens with a dogleg reflex finder on one ov my Bolexes; and since the A-Cam has a C-mount I’d be set. The best part is that this tiny new camera only costs about $4,600.

I met this guy the other night who has an old Arri 2B. He had a promo DVD (2-minute trailer, 4:20 trailer and some stills) of a Civil War drama someone wants to make. (That is, they shot the trailer to generate production funds.) The images were excellent. Someone brought in a “$65,000 camera” (he didn’t say what it was) to shoot some of the battle footage. There was no difference in quality between the expensive camera and his $3,000 Arri. Of course, they had to ADR all of the dialog since a 2B without a blimp is strictly MOS.

I so missed a great shot on Friday. It was stormy up here, the tide was in, and Drayton Harbour had whitecaps on it. As we were driving away I thought, “Man! I should have loaded up a Bolex and gotten some B&W footage of this earlier!” I just wasn’t thinking about shooting that day. Oh, well. It will storm again.

Oh, about the diffusion material; I haven’t used real spun. Being a cheapster, I just get Tough Spun.

You know, living in L.A. I was too busy to shoot much of anything. The job always interfered, and I didn’t have any filmmaking friends there. Up here, my roommate is a filmmaker and there are a lot of low-budget filmmakers in the area. I’m becoming rather enthused about doing some more shooting! :slight_smile:

Where are you located? If you’re near a school with a film department, you can hire students CHEAP. I did this a few times (once for the salvation army for free) when I was in school, and it’s terrific experience for them, they usually have access to equipment (their own or the school’s) and will work long hours for practically nothing.

[hijack]Cartooniverse… we should talk cinematography sometime. :slight_smile:

Of course there’s no difference, since the 65k body was probably an Arri as well- identical movement, most likely too. As long as you had identical glass, all would be fine, eh? Fool em every time.

I can fly the A-Minima on my Steadicam Mini, since it comes in at less than 15 lbs. I’d love to, I miss shooting film sooooooooooooooo much. NO CABLES !

Agreed, Film Geek, maybe we can arrange a chat with Johnny

Oh, and about the ToughSpun? I use it too. The real spun glass was banned decades ago- when cut or torn, it produced fibers identical to fiberglas insulation, since that’s essentially what spun is. However- and it’s a big however- real classic Spun Glass has the most incredibly glow to it. ToughSpun cannot even come close, I can only describe it as more brilliant and full a glow, than you get with ToughSpun. And the cool part? You cut sections off a roll using the knurled edge of a quarter. Awesome.

I would highly suggest a partnership with a reputable Producer/Director.
This person will take your idea and make it happen.
You want your product to be professionally done, therefore marketable.

You can work out a contract with this person that stipulates what percentage of tape sales they are entitled to.

I could probably recommend somebody.:wink:

…though I did have lots of good advice from some of these same SDMB folks, which I put to good use in making my film (a half-hour documentary using photos from the 1920s, mostly). I decided that talking heads presented the biggest technical problem, so we just did without them, and hiring a professional cameraman and editor were necessities, although at the beginning I was planning to do all the shooting and the cutting myself. Glad I got talked out of it.

Now I’d like to interject another query here (rather than starting my own thread, since my query develops the OP, I think): when my editor gives me the finished product, he’s obliged to provide me with a single copy in mini-DV format. Obviously, I need to convert that to a form that I can play back to show people, either a VHS tape or (preferably) a DVD. How best to do that?

More precisely, how best to do that inexpensively? My editor, who’s never made a DVD, is willing to learn but estimates he’ll need to charge me for 3-5 full days of his time, which runs into four figures. This seems a lot, especially since I can buy a good (?) DVD recorder, which I can then keep, for the same money, and maybe figure out (with your help?) how to feed the mini-DV tape in to the DVD recorder to produce a single copy. It won’t have all the bells and whistles of a DVD, but I don’t think I’ll need them. (I plan on showing this film at two academic conferences, to a couple of hundred people, and it would be nice if it looked reasonably professional, both for my conferences and if I want to show it elsewhere later on.)

How would you recommend I transform the mini-DV I get from the editor into a viewable DVD format?

Um. Not to put too fine a point on it, but your editor’s a thief.

Once the show has been “Exported” to Mini-DV format, it is simple work to have that tape sent to a dub house, and they can burn you a DVD. Or two. Or six thousand.

Email me, I can send you the names of a few reputable Dub houses. It is simply unacceptable to think you should pay 3-4 days of learning curve time, just so your editor can A) Buy a machine, and B) have you pay him to learn to use it. Balderdash.

Additionally, NEVER accept just one Mini-DVD copy of a project. You need to insist on two Edit Masters. The tape is small and fragile, imagine how awful it would be to have it be damaged in playback showing your Edit Master to someone, and then…you have nothing.

Tell your editor to make you two Edit Masters. A Mini-DV tape is less than $ 15.00, and the time they will charge you will be the realtime length of your show, X2. That way, you keep one Edit Master on your shelf- your NON- METALLIC shelf, might I add. :wink: And the other one is sent off to the Dub House.

Unless you are already pre-sold with a certain guaranteed income on this show, buying even a marginally good DVD burner is a waste of your money. That cash is better spent working on nice packaging.

While VHS burns are cheaper than DVD clones, virtually everybody you wish to send this to has a DVD player. It would be considered “cheap” of you to send out a VHS copy. Three years ago? No sweat. Two years ago? Maybe a raised eyebrow. Now? Nobody will want to play your program. It’s the way of the world.

Email me, I can help you find a good safe outfit to clone your Mini-DV tape.

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