Neil Gaiman accused of being serial sexual abuser

Lucifer Samael Morningstar is a character who appears in American comic books published by DC Comics. He is an adaptation of Lucifer—the Biblical fallen angel and devil of Christianity—and is one of the most powerful beings in the DC Universe. Though various versions of the Devil have been presented by DC Comics, this interpretation by Neil Gaiman debuted in The Sandman #4 in 1989. Lucifer appears primarily as a supporting character in The Sandman and as the protagonist of the spin-off Lucifer.

The spin-off series Lucifer (2000–2006) written by Mike Carey depicts his adventures on Earth, Heaven, and in the various other realms of his family’s creations and in uncreated voids after abandoning Hell in The Sandman.[1] Lucifer also appears as a supporting character in issues of The Demon, The Spectre, and other DC Universe comics. Two angels, a human, and briefly Superman[2] have taken his place as ruler of Hell. - SOURCE

Indeed.

Thats exactly what I said

By the way…if Netflix Sandman ever reaches the “A Game of You” storyline, I wonder if the transexual Wanda will still be denied ‘walking the Moons path’ with the other ladies because “The Gods don’t consider her a woman.”

i mean, it works because no one ever considered Gods as exactly progressive, but its still a controversial position to take.

This was part of Asimov’s persona, and unfortunately real also. I saw him on a panel at Noreascon in 1972 about “should Isaac Asimov write more science fiction.” He took the negative, but his whole statement was a very unfunny story about trying and failing to seduce Judy Lynn (at that time) Benjamin. I also know a woman he hit on.

It’s not that no one knew, it’s that no one really cared back then.

I’ll bet the women cared.

Next youll be telling us Pamela Dean is a right bitch.

(Just to take this full circle, cuz Brust and Dean were part of that Midwestern Fantasy scene in the 90s and, of course, she wrote a novelization of Tam Lin, which is pretty good but nowhere near as good as the one written by Diana Wynne Jones, whose most famous protégé is, of course, Neil Gaiman. )

Half written by …

I like them both, but agree that the Wynne Jones one was better.

Beyond that, the TV show Lucifer has almost nothing in common with the comic book, except in the broadest of strokes. Lucifer being portrayed as a giant himbo, in particular, is entirely from the TV show. I’m pretty sure comic book Lucifer doesn’t even have genitals.

Likewise, Dead Boy Detectives is based on characters from Sandman but bears little resemblance to them.

It’s never come up… :stuck_out_tongue:

Ouch!

Which makes the comments earlier in this thread that that series was one way for people to have heard of Gaiman, somewhat tenuous.

My secret source being Wikipedia infobox, it says Gaiman at least partially “created” the series Neverwhere, Good Omens, and “developed” The Sandman, but it says nothing of the sort about Lucifer or American Gods.

It doesn’t say he created American Gods?

I mean the TV show American Gods (TV series) - Wikipedia ; it says it was developed by Bryan Fuller and Michael Green.

If someone has bought and read a bunch of novels by Gaiman, then presumably they are directly familiar with his work.

Well, he was the executive producer on that TV series based on his novel; I don’t know how much more the “creator” of it he could possibly be, at that point.

Looking to see if Gaiman’s name was used in the ads for American Gods (it wasn’t) I found this edition of the book. What made it an “underground novel”?

I watched the show and never read the source material. I knew it was based on his work. One episode was done a little differently. It was narrated by the voice of God. Gaiman played God.

Nothing makes it underground as far as I can tell. It was published in hardcover by a major publishing house. It won the Hugo, Nebula and Locus awards when it came out. I read it because my librarian mother saw it come across the desk and she thought I would like it. It’s about as mainstream as a book can be in the genre.