Just watched the DVD. Data’s dead? Now where stuck with retarded Data? That sucks.
Seems there was an unseeming amount of self-killing going on. Auto-destruct was attempted, Picard half-way killed himself, with a big assist from himself and Brent Spinner wrote the darn thing, killing himself off in the process.
So, whose in the lead in Enterprise destroying? Kirk’s got two and I’ll give Picard 2 1/2.
Didn’t Picard initiate self-destruct about every other episode early on? You know; run out of Earl Grey tea, activate self-destruct? Seems that way anyway…
Why do you give Picard 2½? First of all, he wasn’t even on the Enterprise-D when they got into a fight that destroyed that ship. If you’re counting the attempted destruction of the Enterprise-E (which happened in both First Contact and Nemesis) as ½, then what’s the other 1?
Wow!
You waited this long to see it?
Hope the huge thread when it was released didn’t bias you in any thing.
Mostly, we Trekkers were disappointed in it. You see… even numbered Treks are supposed to be good. This one had promise, and some good scenes, but it was lackluster. Oh well…
Best line:
Picard: “Why have you brought me here?!”
Dweezl clone boy: “I was lonely.”
I liked it. I didn’t realize that the consensus was negative.
Not really negative.
just meh.
The 'splosions were cool!
Seems like I liked it first go 'round. But, I did have some major nits. Guess it was the re-viewing it later that put me in the “meh” catagory.
The consensus in that thread seems to be quite firmly ambivelant.
Maybe it’s Enterprise that has soured my memory of this Trek.
:dubious:
Unlike some, I know when not to read a thread about a movie I’m sure to see.
Achernar, he was the Captain of 2 ships when they got destroyed. I counted Nemesis as 1/2.
Oh. Well you said Enterprise-destroying, not ship-destroying. 
I liked it. Romulans are cool.
Shut up, tracer.
I was dissapointed. I did like Picard ramming the Enterprise into the other ship though. That was cool. <Heh Heh>
I LOVED it when it was Star Trek II.
Both movies have the captain against someone who is his equal.
Both bad guys are motivated by revenge.
Both movies have a fight in a nebula.
Both movies have the braniac guy kill himself doing something heroic to save the ship.
Both movies have a character taken over to be a traitor.
Both movies have a device that was modified to be a Doomsday weapon.
So, other than most of the movie feeling like a remake, the silly uneccessary scenes (The new Starfeet vehicle is a freakin’ DUNE BUGGY?), and the introduction of two new weapons (The glowing green Medusa gas and the super-duper cloak on the protoype ship) that you KNOW will never be seen again despite all logic, the movie was OK.
I get what you’re saying generally, but Khan = Kirk was nowhere near as big of a theme as Shinzon = Picard was. Also, I don’t think Shinzon was motivated by revenge any more than your average bad guy. At least, no more than the bad guys in Star Trek V and Star Trek: First Contact, and certainly less than the bad guys in Star Trek VI and Star Trek: Insurrection. I admit he had more revenge on his mind than Soran did.
I loved seeing the front of the bridge get blown away. That was friggen awesome.
And, it does suck that we got the down-syndrome Data. What the hell is with that?
The big question is this: Now that Riker and Troi are gone, and Data is retarted, who will be the new first officer? Geordi, or Worf?
I vote for Geordi. I’m a Geordi fan.
And now that troi is gone, who is going to supply the T&A? They really didn’t think this one through very well.