I evaluate a racial group on the basis of the average characteristics of that racial group. I am a white Gentile. I do not think that what I am is racially superior to Orientals or Jews.
I do believe that for too long the fear of being called a racist has inhibited a candid and public discussion of black social pathology.
In his book, “Crime and Human Nature”, James Q. Wilson and co-author Richard Herrnstein found that one neighborhood in the '60s had the lowest income, the highest unemployment rate, the highest proportion of families with incomes under $4,000 per year, the lowest educational attainment, the highest tuberculosis rate and the highest level of substandard housing of any area in San Francisco. The area was called Chinatown. If poverty is a cause of crime, surely this was a formula for criminal meltdown. Yet in 1965, there were only five persons of Chinese ancestry committed to prison in the entire state of California.
Truly, it is sad.
These days, you can hardly start a discussion on how bad blacks are without some bleeding heart taking issue with your claims.
Keep fighting the good fight.
Ghana: CRIME: Pick-pocketing, purse-snatching, and various types of scams are the most common forms of crime confronting visitors. Travelers have reported these types of theft at crowded markets, beaches, parks, and tourist attractions. Incidences of violent crime, such as armed robbery, are on the rise, including reports of armed robberies in expatriate residential areas. Victims who resist attackers run a high risk of serious physical injury. Take security measures, such as traveling in groups and avoiding travel at night. Avoid travel in communal taxis. Travelers who limit their display of jewelry and handle their cash discreetly reduce their vulnerability to crime. Travelers are advised to carry limited amounts of cash and only photocopies of key documents.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1124.html#crime
CRIME: Minor street crime is very common in Senegal, particularly in cities. Most reported incidents involve pickpockets and purse-snatchers, who are especially active in large crowds and around tourists. Aggressive vendors, panhandlers and street children may attempt to divert the victim’s attention while an accomplice carries out the crime. To avoid theft, U.S. citizens should avoid walking alone in isolated areas or on beaches, particularly at night, lock their doors and close their windows when driving, and avoid public transportation. U.S. citizens should not walk on dark streets at night, even in groups.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1013.html#crime
CRIME: Crime continues to be a major security threat for U.S. citizens living in Cote d’Ivoire. Grab-and-run street crime and pick-pocketing in crowded areas are widespread. Armed carjackings, robberies of businesses, and home invasions occur frequently and have targeted residents, including expatriates, who are perceived as wealthy. In late 2009, a U.S. citizen died from injuries sustained during a violent home invasion in Abidjan. Some armed robberies have been carried out by men in military uniforms. Among the many victims of highway crimes are U.S. citizens who have been stopped after dark, threatened, and robbed at gunpoint. Travelers should avoid road travel after dark, and keep car doors and homes locked at all times. Armed criminals use force when faced with resistance. Travelers displaying jewelry and other valuables, such as cameras, are especially at risk. Travelers are advised to carry limited amounts of cash and only photocopies of key documents. Incidents of police harassment or detention of foreigners do occur. There are numerous police-controlled vehicle checkpoints throughout Abidjan to check vehicle and passenger documents; often, security forces use the checkpoints to extort money from drivers and passengers.
http://www.travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1094.html#crime
Eventually the truth will come out. The facts are everywhere.
Fight the future, Mulder.
Tell ya what NDD, give black kids access to truly decent educations, house their families in decent accomodations with lots of support services, and then come back to me in a generation to spout the same claims.
I’ll betcha you can’t.
We already tried that with the War on Poverty. What we got was five years of black ghetto rioting, and more enduring increases in black crime and illegitimacy.
Washington, DC already has the third most expensive public school system in the country. Academic performance is lower than for any of the states. The student body is 85 percent black.
http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot/pdf/20596.pdf
Even the Brookings Institute acknowledges that Head Start has been a disappointment.
HHS released the Head Start Impact Study Final Report last week…
The study demonstrated that children’s attendance in Head Start has no demonstrable impact on their academic, socio-emotional, or health status at the end of first grade.
http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2010/0121_head_start_whitehurst.aspx
Exactly.
I really appreciated your citations of US State Dep’t travel adivsories regarding those Negro hellholes of West Africa. However, in the interests of completeness, please allow me to append these advisories concerning some of Europa’s ostensibly nicer spots:
“CRIME: Be alert to the possibility of carjackings and thefts while you are waiting in traffic or stopped at traffic lights. This has been a particular problem in Catania, Sicily. Use particular caution driving at night on highways, when thieves are more likely to strike. Americans have reported break-ins of their rental cars during stops at highway service areas; thieves smash car windows and steal everything inside. Theft of small items such as radios, luggage, cameras, briefcases, and even cigarettes from parked cars is prevalent. Vehicles parked near beaches during the summer can be broken into and robbed of valuables. Lock car doors whenever you park, and do not leave packages in your car in plain view.”
BELGIUM:
"CRIME: You should be aware that small groups of young men sometimes prey on unwary tourists, usually at night and often in metro stations in Brussels. These thieves typically seek small, high-value items such as mobile phones and MP3 players. You should carry only a minimum amount of cash, credit cards, and necessary personal identification (see Special Circumstances, below, for acceptable forms of identification). We advise U.S. citizens to avoid wearing expensive jewelry and watches. "
And my own beloved Ireland:
“CRIME: There have been a limited number of assaults on foreigners and tourists, including violence toward members of racial minority groups. There have also been several reported assaults in Dublin by small, unorganized gangs roaming the streets in the early morning hours after the pubs close. There has been a high incidence of petty crime in major tourist areas—mostly theft, burglary, and purse-snatching. Thieves target rental cars and tourists, particularly in the vicinity of tourist attractions. In some cases, purse and bag-snatching have involved physical assault or violence, especially in Dublin.”
Yikes! Looks like I made the wrong choice moving to this barbarous continent. Maybe I should move back home? Then again…
USA:
"Safety and Security - Crime:
* Do not leave your door open at any time.
* Avoid wearing expensive jewellery and carrying valuable items in run down areas.
* Do not sleep in your car by the roadside or in rest areas.
* Avoid leaving items on display in cars.
* Try to stay on main roads and use well-lit car parks.
* If hit from behind while driving, indicate to the other driver to follow you to a public place and call 911 for Police help.
Violent crime related to the drugs trade is a major issue in the Mexican states along the border with California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. Though some foreign nationals have been among the victims in the border region, there is no evidence to suggest that they have been targeted because of their nationality. Visitors to border areas should exercise caution and follow the advice of local authorities."
What to do, what to do…
Yeah, but all those countries have some blacks living there or passing through, or mentioned in a conversation. Their mere presence increases crime. We should have neutered them all a long time ago.
Fuji,
If you look at these charts, you can see that European countries usually have a low murder rate. The murder rate is a good way of estimating the entire crime rate because murders are more likely to come to the attention of the police. An interesting exception is Russia. I attribute the high murder rate in Russia to the economic and social dislocations that followed the fall of the Soviet Union.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
Just out of morbd curiosity, if differences in intelligence are biological, how does moving black people to a different continent boost their IQs by 15 points?
Just a quick note that in my years as a public defender I had more than one accused white mugger. So from here on out, if NDD is reading: you cannot say you’ve never heard of a white mugger.
Massa was plowin’ some dark fields, down south, pre-Civil War. Some of our good white genes rubbed off. Don’t you know nuthin?
Then why would you not attribute greater black crime in the U.S. to the economic and social dislocations that followed the fall of slavery?
Look, there is no question that crime is higher in predominantly black areas. And there is no question that reverberations of slavery that existed in black history in Europe and Africa itself has resulted also in economic and social disenfranchisement in those places too.
What I really object to when it comes to most posters on this board and liberals in America in general, is the apparent philosophy that to voice complaint one about the problems of black crime and/or condemnation of the glamorization of it automatically equals racism. It’s as if they favor a totally hands-off approach when it comes to present day elements of crime and behavior that are only making it harder and harder for blacks to share in the rights and lifestyles they peacefully fought for with such dignity fifty years and more ago.
Until society stops turning a blind eye to these ills and acting like the merest whisper of it equals racism in all its evil, the two races are not going to mesh and we will never arrive at a colorblind society.
And has anybody noticed that crime in black areas is much worse now than it was in the 50’s and 60’s? And has anybody ever wondered what role the destruction of marriage and the idea of a responsible father figure at home has played in those rates? And what role the practice of endlessly portraying blacks as victims, even though young black people in this day and age know virtually nothing of the racism that their forebears knew, has had in stoking the fires of resentment and bad attitudes which contribute to the criminal mentality and also serve to drive a wedge between blacks and whites in contemporary society? And what role five decades of behaving as though blacks can’t be blamed for crime because…“Look what used to happen to them,” an attitude that plays a role in many young black minds which convinces them that they OUGHT TO BE rebellious and angry and involved in criminality, because society obviously agrees - why else would society be so forgiving of it that society in general gives them a free pass?
I think that the combination of a 70 to 80% illegitimate birthrate plus society’s indifference to or defense of black criminality and the acceptance of the glamorization of it has done a good deal more to contribute to today’s high black crime rates than racism itself has.
And just for the record, I don’t think there’s one iota of a difference genetically between black people and white people when it comes to intelligence. If black people perform lower on intelligence and aptitude tests or on the job, it’s the result of harmful attitudes in black culture that have grown up in the last forty or fifty years. Where black students were having to run gauntlets in the 60’s in order to try to get a quality education, nowadays they are scornful of it as uncool and “acting white”. So obviously things have deteriorated since the 60’s in terms of attitude among young blacks where it comes to education, but it can’t be blamed on a lesser intelligence. If and when the time ever comes that blacks and whites in this country intermingle effortlessly and we truly have a colorblind society, I have every expectation that blacks will perform just as well as whites on any measure of intelligence.
Aw, dont be niggardly here.
Evidently:
I see no value in libertarianism at all. I do regret the sexual revolution.
Maybe he could pull up a rocking chair with Starving Artist. With wimminfolk and other inferiors to fetch food and beer, they’d hardly ever need to get out of it.
Endorsing an idiotic pseudo-evolutionary argument (the equivalent of “if hoomins evolved outta monkeys, how come there’s still monkeys, huh, wise guy?”) isn’t exactly helping your case.
Not really; see previous quote indicating discomfort with uppity wimmin.
I’m not sure if the should be given a new thread, but I have some questions. (This can be moved to GD for other people’s input, if the moderators wish, but I would like to hear NDD defense in this case.)
What if someone has the balls to do more studies on race, genetics, and intelligence, violence, etc. And what if these studies do in fact show that African-Americans have genes that result in lower levels of intelligence and higher levels of violence?
A) What do you, NDD, think we as a society should do? You make some suggestions in your quotes above - but can you further elaborate?
B) What do those that currently claim no such difference exists, and mock NDD for his backwards ways, suggest we do?
My own personal view is that I don’t care much either way. The definition of racism provided above in this thread is NOT the one I use on a regular basis. I don’t think there is a problem with making the observation that crime is higher and IQ scores are lower in the African-American culture. I think it’s okay to see *average *differences in racial/cultural groups.
The key, for me, is to still evaluate individuals based on their own merits and behaviours. If it is shown that poverty reduces intelligence, I will still be open-minded when a job candidate for an engineering position comes in with a poor background. If it is shown that single, middle-aged, white men abuse children far more than any other group, I will still be open-minded when a potential teacher comes in for a job interview. Currently, when I interact with AAs, I am equally open-minded, despite the irrefutable statistics representing their current state. If their current state is somehow proven to be genetically caused and not environmental… what exactly changes? I suggest that nothing changes, as I will continue to form an opinion about individuals based on their individual merits.
Whether society as a whole will respond similarily in case this research is done, and results in what some people fear, I cannot say. Since *currently *AAs are discriminated against based on what many view are cultural behaviours, I assume this discrimination will merely shift it’s basis to genetic blame. If anything, this will make their plight worse than it is now, since some people currently believe “cultural behaviour is flexible” but most believe that “genetic behaviour is fixed”.
Can people please comment on this?