Hmm… I’m imagining the task of the cities chief law enforcement officer.
First: Determine from medical records, who in the city of Troy is being treated for hyper-salivation; and is resistant to treatment.
Find these people, and escort them to the city limits immediately; or execute them (not sure how the law is prefaced). You may be able to confiscate their property, as they cannot return to the city limits… this can help the fatten department slush fund.
Second: Determine means for detecting individuals who may be exposed to hyper-salivation, yet not fortunate enough to have diagnosed it and attempt to seek treatment.
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– It could be dietary; in which case poorer individuals in the community would be excellent suspects.
– One bonus, is the placebo effect; which could trigger a psychological hyper-salivation in an additional set of the community; increasing the odds for aquired wealth from fines and/or confiscation of property by being escorted out of the city limits. (this will however deprive the city of much needed suggestible individuals, required for the production of slave labor.)
– Many medications now have this as a registered side effect.
It would be efficient to ensure that this medication becomes distributed to those who are considered as undesirables. One may be able to spray certain environment with chemicals that accumulate in the body to create hyper-salivation as well. check the clarity of the law in regards to accessory to criminality, weighed against the persons own choice, and your lack of committing the crime yourself
If hyper-salivation can be linked to a biochemical anomoly; it may be a good idea to retrieve the blood samples of all individuals within city limits.
In terms of mucus production; checking with all available allergy clinics and processing the reciepts of allergy medication bought within the city limits could provide a series of very promising leads, as to assure this law is not broken.
Anyone else? Just trying to help the fine judge and enforcement officers of Troy, NY do their jobs…
I carry a handkerchief and do have some allergies. So, from time to time I have to spit. Never in public though. Absolutely never where someone else may have to deal w/ this.
Q: If a person were to unexpectedly vomit in public in Troy, would they be subject to arrest? What if I told a great joke at a restaurant and everyone with a mouthful wound up in jail?
Is a sneeze also illegal? (hmmm) think about that for a minute, kind of an uncontrolled response w/ expectorant, maybe a good defense if not also illegal
Surely children are exempt from this law. When I was a boy, we had a great time seeing who could spit the farthest!
IOW- I can understand the “disgust” and perhaps the people’s desire to keep this off the street (no pun intended) But, I’m not so sure I agree w/ the legal aspect. I foresee many problems possibly arising from this law.
BTW
I don’t see race as a big issue. Although, I could see where it would leave room for questionable prosecutions. If one were to target a specific population for arrests and subsequent searches, this law could make it easy to do so.
As for people with “salivary overactivity” (jeez, this is the most appetizing thread I’ve seen in quite awhile) - consider that there are unfortunate people with inflammatory bowel disease or other conditions that cause them to have dozens of bowel movements in the course of a single day. But they manage without feeling obliged to take a dump on the public sidewalks.
Spitters can make a little extra effort.
I think it’ll take a bit more than this ordinance for Troy to become the Paris of upstate New York. But it’s a start.
The sample is indeed too small to draw any racism or not conclusion. I on occasion have to hack up some snot when I’m caught without tissue, but you can avoid the sidewalk by spitting in the grass or shrubbery. Seems like a waste of time to enforce the law, there are a hundred things more important for the police and courts to concern themselves with.
They really have no-spit laws in HK? It seems like it’s still pretty bad in the New Territories, from what I recall. Maybe not as bad as in the mainland, though. In Beijing I saw a guy spit a gob without looking, and JUST missed hitting a woman who was passing by.
Personally, I think there are times when spitting is necessary, like when you get something nasty in your mouth for whatever reason. You should have the courtesy not to do it on the sidewalk though.
Agreed, I went off on a tangent, having it in my head that the entire city was marked for the law - must have been that wave of ego-centric fruedian dyslexia popping up.
I believe that the bowel ‘disease’ is a syndrome, as it is genetic.
“”""“I think it’ll take a bit more than this ordinance for Troy to become the Paris of upstate New York. But it’s a start.”""""
Umm… have you ever been to Paris? That city is filthy! Assuming you can ignore the pungent stench of diesel that pervades everything there; the buildings themsleves are ruins. Try Switzerland or parts of Germany IMO.
If cops were passing sixty White people who were spitting out wads of chewing tobacco to go after the one Black guy who was spitting a sunflower seed, then there might be a case. Until then morw evidence is needed.
If cops were passing sixty White people who were spitting out wads of chewing tobacco to go after the one Black guy who was spitting a sunflower seed, then there might be a case. Until then more evidence is needed.
BIG whoosh to me if you’re joking but if you’re actually serious then I cannot even begin to express my words for you in this forum. I mean, seriously, let’s just criminalize everything YOU think is disgusting…
Cisco: If you disagree with a no spitting ordinance then by all means fight it in the courts and the legislatire. But if you think there should be a law, well then thats how things are supposed to work. Now I’m not a big fan of passing laws on things people do to themselves or to willing adult participants, but so some of us spitting is a nuisiance inflicted upon us by others. I should suffer your spitting? I should stand in your spit maybe? Maybe you should walk in feces? Why not?
Maybe I’m missing something here, but does a law that bans spitting on sidewalks implicitly ban spitting on streets? Why would anyone spit on a sidewalk when they can spit off the curb?
“Why would anyone spit on a sidewalk when they can spit off the curb?”
Some people are just inconsiderate assholes.
BTW Guinastasia
No, I don’t think vomiting is the same as spitting a disgusting wad on the sidewalk. I’m not opposed to the idea. I think the town people are right for wanting to keep their city clean. I feel the same way about mine.
It’s obvious, according to the article, they have a (small) problem. A talk with the kids in question would probably have taken care of the situation.
A no loitering sign or something similar would have been better.
I raised the question as an example of a defense or a confounding issue.
“Judge, I didn’t spit…I sneezed and it just came out that way!”
“Your honor, last week you released a man that THREWUP on the same sidewalk!”
“But, your honor, he’s just a child…etc.”
(to the jury) We found this joint on the young man in question when we searched him. He was originally stopped for spitting on the sidewalk. BTW those charges were dropped after it was determined he wasn’t the one."
