New show: Forever

The most recent episode was yet another largely police procedural, but with less of the backtracking/change of sequence of events we saw in “The Art of Murder”.

I don’t feel the historical flashbacks added much to this one.

Morgan did not die again. OK, I know I said I liked that he wasn’t dying all the time but guys, you have a gimmick here. A guy who dies and comes back. You have to use that once in awhile.

The interpersonal stuff did advance a bit, with Jo being invited to dinner with Abe and Henry. Jo got to see some interaction between the two, and the boys 'fessed up they were family although they weren’t quite honest with the exact relationship.

I really think it’s time for something fatal to happen to Henry again, and for Jo to either start suspecting something odd is up (like she isn’t already) or find/be told Henry’s secret. After which we can go back to plain procedurals, but with a slightly different dynamic

The gimmick is he’s immortal. They use it for his historical insights. He’s a less manic Ichabod Crane.

He could be immortal by simply not dying, or having the healing ability of Wolverine.

His trick is that he dies and comes back. This has the added twist that he might well fear a manner of death, dying can still be horribly painful, so it keeps him cautious and avoiding getting mortally hurt, but he can, say, fling himself in front of a bullet to save someone else knowing he’ll recover or come back.

The dinner part was good, but this was like a “Very special episode”. . Great cast, needs better scripts.

Yes - I like the premise, love the cast, but fear the show won’t survive unless the writing/stories improve. They’re good, but not good enough.

Yea, I like all the characters on the show. Abe, Henry, and Jo are great. The assistant ME and Jo’s cop partner are hilarious. (The boss cop doesn’t do much for me but she’s not around much).

The premise is fascinating, and there’s a lot they could do with it.

The problem is they aren’t doing much with the premise. Oh look, Henry remembers something from 50 years ago that just happens to be relevant. Oh look, this case reminds Henry of something that happened 100 years ago. I’m not interested in the show because of flashback, I’m interested because of the “not die” part. On the one hand I’m glad they don’t make him die every episode, but on the other they are just turning it into a bland police procedural.

That said, I think they are handling the romance between Jo and Henry pretty well.

Henry’s getting a little annoying. 200 years old and he has no bad habits? No taste for the dark side, sexually? The one guy who can’t die of cancer and he doesn’t smoke?

I don’t know, I would assume that you would have to get into the practice of keeping up-to-date on lingo, behaviors, social classes, etc. to fit in as the eras change but you still have to mingle with people in their 30s and 40s.

He did say the torture implements in his basement lab were for sex… he might not have been entirely kidding.

Cancer can hurt, and coughing, the bad breath, the stench, etc are all reasons to not smoke, even if you cant actually die from it- permanently.

Also makes me wonder if any physical changes carry-over. Like, he’s permanently 35 (or whatever), but if he starts working out and gets jacked, does he lose all that muscle after a death? Or, on the positive side, if he lets himself go and gains 150 pounds, does he go back to his svelte self after a death? Or is he just permanently in the current state of his body, no matter what he eats or how much he exercises.

There are so many interesting places this show could go… I just wish they would go there.

That’s a good point. Could he get cancer, and then shoot himself in the head, then be all back to normal after he appears in the water once again?

The more interesting question would be, if he had died with a mullet, would he have to get a haircut every time he returns?

He’s outgrown most of them, I suspect. They tend to lose their appeal after a few decades, and are the kinds of things many people regret in retrospect. He’s had a lot of retrospection time.

Henry does have a scar right over his heart. See, here it is.. He doesn’t have it in real life as here.Not really here. See next pic of his real life not scar.here. This picture is behind spoilers for a reason! Two click rule. Be forwarned. And it doesn’t even prove my point. I just wanted to share. This picture proves my point.

Wait, that doesn’t prove my point. I got totally distracted from my point looking for that scar. Did he get shot before he was pushed overboard when he died? I don’t remember. It could be a scar he got before he was killed but I find that unlikely, considering its location.

I think it’s meant to be the shot that is key to his immortality, presumably his first death.

That’s what I think too. But if he comes back in the same condition as when he died, he’d have a gaping wound. So, perhaps, he would come back with a mullet if he died with one.

It would appear he “resets” to his “first death” state - in the water and all - fortunately for him, its a local body of water.

It would also appear that he doesn’t age in any appreciable manner while living, yet his hair grows (mustache!), he eats, etc.

Man, that’ll suck in the Christmas episode. That river’d be COLD. He dies, plunges in the water, dies again of hypothermia, plunges, dies, repeat…

When he reappears in the water after dying, do you think it always has to be in the sea? Or even a large body of water? It’d interesting if they have him killed while visiting someplace landlocked and he surfaces in someone’s swimming pool.