These new smilies are nice; I like the shadowing as it adds some depth to them. What I miss is the movement. No more razz, no more eek, and especially, no more rolleyes!
Look what’s happened to the Rolleyes Concerto LOOK!
I’m hurt.
:o
Let us get everything up and running good and then we can try to deal with this, okay?
Sorry for your inconvenience.
your humble TubaDiva
Administrator
There’s a lot more good smilies on the Teeming Millions site.
Maybe you could copy them when you’re doing the others.
We have to be careful about what we appropriate from other sources to add to our site. Copyright violation and theft of bandwith are two very bad ideas and the fact that “everybody does it” is no excuse.
Looking at the smiley you have in your sig here, I suspect you’re guilty on both counts. Please do not do this again.
And it’s not just us, it’s everybody that uses cyberspace. So let’s be good netizens, okay?
your humble TubaDiva
They aren’t copyrighted. Published without copyright notice = public domain. That’s alwys been the law.
And, they are intended for use by others. It says so on the page.
http://flowerkitty.tripod.com/smile
You could copy the page into your domain, and indeed that was my suggestion. Then you would have no more concerns.
Since only you can edit the post above, perhaps you should do so now, but I don’t see any real reason to want to.
your humble netizen
I forgot to say this: I won’t use images again.
It’s your board, and you interpret the rules.
It is confusing, since you allow images.
How is it supposed to work that way?
Anyway, I wish you would tell the others.
Rechenanlagen:
This has been discussed before in this thread and other places which you can find with the search function.
After reading this, if you have any more questions, post them and someone will answer you.
::sigh::
Try again.
Rechenanlagen:
The issues involved have been discussed before in this thread and other places which you can find with the search function.
After reading this, if you have any more questions, post them and someone will answer you.
We have no proof the site you’re getting the image from holds true legal rights to the images in the first place; just because someone can take them from the site does not necessarily make them public property.
And your suggestion that we cache your images for you is . . . well, I’m stunned. So not only are we to overlook any possible copyright infringement but we’re supposed to assist others in this as well? I don’t think I can convince the Reader lawyers on this one.
We do allow the use of SMALL image files . . . and we ask that people be considerate of this site and others. That means don’t appropriate images without full consent, don’t pull from other sites (that’s theft of bandwith for every time the image is accessed by ANY browser ANYWHERE, it adds up, some host sites get billed for that usage), be a good citizen of the Net. It’s really not asking a lot.
your humble TubaDiva
Administrator
These are on my own site, taken from another site which allowed me to use them as I wished:
For whenever Phaedrus returns:
http://homepages.go.com/~cmcinternationalrecords/boom.gif
For any posts to either welcome or chastize a Newbie:
http://homepages.go.com/~cmcinternationalrecords/newbie.gif
When you’re really pissed:
http://homepages.go.com/~cmcinternationalrecords/angryfire.gif
When you’re really pissed AT someone in particular:
http://homepages.go.com/~cmcinternationalrecords/birdflick.gif
Have fun with them, kids!
Yer pal,
Satan
http://homepages.go.com/~cmcinternationalrecords/devil.gif
TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
Three weeks, one day, 1 minute and 6 seconds.
880 cigarettes not smoked, saving $110.00.
Life saved: 3 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes.
Patently false.
It is the law that the actual creation of a work gives one legal copyright, whether the creation is published or unpublished, with copyright notice or without.
Copyright notice is a non-necessary reminder from the holder of the copyright that they intend to protect their right to all copies.
Only three things relinquish copyright:
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Expressly giving up copyright (“I’m giving this away free!”)
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Not protecting copyright when it is widely infringed and you know its being infringed upon (note that those who infringe are doing so illegally – they’re just lucky the holder hasn’t gotten the law after them.)
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Expiration of copyright. The length of time depends on the current copyright law and whether the copyright was duly renewed.
Peace.
Satan-
I like your style. Don’t let them grind you down like they will me.
TubaDiva-
You seem to have reversed my position on me. I never asked you to post stolen things. I asked you to get some of your own so us simple people won’t have to go to the trouble Satan did.
If you doubt the ones I found are freeware, I assure you there are hundreds of sites that DO have public domain gifs for the taking, usually with the only caveat that you don’t try to sell them. As I said, I’m out of the image business now, but someone else reading this can send you some, I’m sure.
moriah- you say"It is the law that the actual creation of a work gives one legal copyright, whether the creation is published or unpublished, with copyright notice or without."
No. Not so. Check the government board. They are only protected up to the point of publication. If you send 50 copies on spec to 50 publishers you retain copyright. What you are thinking of is that since 1992 you have not been required to REGISTER prior to publication, so long as the copyright notice is attached. Maps, music, electonic media, etc. all have separate rules, but the requirement for copyright notice is in all of them.
Thanks, Satan. We love our people being creative, long as they’re not running rings around copyright law or being inconsiderate to others.
Please don’t assult people just because they’re new; everybody was a newbie here at one time. Cut 'em a break. The “welcome” idea is much nicer than the chastise part.
And don’t use that finger one anywhere else but the Pit.
your humble TubaDiva
Administrator
Honestly, we’re not trying to “grind you down.” We want our forum members to have a good time here and we do have some flexibility, that includes allowing the judicious use of image files.
However, there’s a world of difference between “judicious use” and “anything goes.” You may wish to believe that no copyright notice = public domain, but wishing won’t make it so.
By being careful in what we allow on this site, we are hoping to preserve the use of image files for our members; abuse of the privilege in the uncontrolled posting of images regardless of copyright or bandwith issues jeopardizes that privilege and quite possibly the very existence of this site. That’s a high price to pay for a cute smiley.
your humble TubaDiva
Administrator
(Ok, then, once more into the breach)
Here was the post that got me in trougle:
There’s a lot more good smilies on the Teeming Millions site.
Maybe you could copy them when you’re doing the others.
Can you? They are friends of yours, right?
They seem to share all kinds of stuff with you guys.
Their stuff is good, right?
How about asking them? Want me to do it for you?
The beauty of this plan is a) posters have a reasonable choice and b) there’s less for you to worry about.
Heh. Everybody’s pickin’ on poor Rechenanlagen.
Yes. Yes so. Moriah is correct. We’ve been through this before (look in MPSIMS for Sip’n Fly’s threads).
Still hate 'em.
Brian, you are… er… well… Satan incarnate.
That kinda lost something in the translation.
Kat -
So don’t keep us guessing. You haven’t weighed in yet on the thread question -
Do we live with just the new smilies or go for more?
(We’ve already established that there’s plenty of legal stuff available, some sitting over there with our friends.
Why, I’ll bet Opalcat has a gift basket in celephane and just waiting for the right moment. )
::: sigh :::
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We’re not comfortable caching images we cannot guarantee are not someone else’s property.
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Our techs really do have more to do than this, especially right now, new software, chasing down bugs, etc.
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Everybody in cyberspace has access to their own personal web space to cache pages and images, either through their ISPs or the various free sites all over the place. If you don’t know how to do this for yourself, ask; there’s folks here that will help you do so. (In fact, if someone can point me to the thread where the Teeming Millions did that, I’ll save it and repost it and etc., that’s a good resource for everybody.)
None of this is meant as personal attack on you or to pooh-pooh your ideas. We just want you to do some things for yourself. Assuming responsibility for the images you place on our site is not a lot to ask.
Now, if I’m outta line by thinking this, y’all tell me, please. Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been wrong. (Might not be the first time today.)
your humble TubaDiva
Administrator
All I wondered about was getting the animation back in the gif’s so that pre-vBulletin posts with smilies wouldn’t look so wierd.
Opal, however, does have some really 
ones, and, to be sure things don’t get out of hand with loading pages, limits the number of images per post to seven.
Sorry, Chief…