[start] Are you pulling 1500 dps on bosses?
[yes] Do heroics. [end]
[else]
Optimize your spec and rotation.
Check with guildies and the AH for crafted ilvl 200 items.
Check the reputation vendors.
Do the level 80 dungeon quests.
Go to start.
Speaking of which, I’m pretty sure there’s at least some level 80 hunter mail in the guild vault (though more caster mail).
1500 is considered entry level for heroics? Cool, that seems very achievable. Are there any heroic mechanics that reduce damage on bosses, or if I can pull it normal am I golden?
hdc, grats on 80. The best way to gear up, if you can put out 1500 dps, is chain running heriocs as Ama said. The drops are better, plus you’ll be collecting emblems of Triumph (and some Frosts) to buy better gear with.
Check crafted gear that’s available and let the guild know what you need - we may have someone who can make it if it’s not in the guild vault.
The good: I finally got all 25 of the Primordial Saronite I needed to finish my Shadow’s Edge! Now I get to start on the looooong grind down the rest of the chain… and that will only take me to the point where I can start collecting Shadowfrost Shards, and lord only knows how many dozens of people are ahead of me on that priority. 
The bad: I barely made it in for a handful of H-LK attempts on our 10-man continuation on Sunday. I was feeling like utter crap and couldn’t focus for shit–fortunately, there was another tank who could step in.
IMO, no. I really like the shift that they’ve taken during Wrath, where each new tier make the previous tier’s gear more easily accessible. I’d shoot myself in the head if gearing a new alt or raider meant weeks of running Naxx, then Ulduar, then ToC, in addition to ICC. It’s shifted the burden of gearing new players from the raid to the individual (where it should be, IMO).
Some people complain because just having purples doesn’t mean anything anymore. I think those people just completely missed the point. Just having epics doesn’t mean anything–but having gear from hardmode bosses, mounts from meta achievements, titles from hardmode kills, and mounts dropped from hardmode endbosses is the new equivalent.
I think it’s great that Blizzard has worked to make the raid content more accessible to everyone while still maintaining the higher levels of challenge (and reward) for those with the most dedication. And if you disagree, I’ll politely ask you to link to your character with LK and Halion hardmode kills.
Lookit’choo, Mr. Fancypants Elf with the Big Shiny Axe. Grats!
I don’t bother with emote macros–all of mine are for game mechanics (gear swapping, abilities, etc.)
Congrats!
1.) Run normal dungeons and keep working on group quests (i.e., with Rare-level rewards).
2.) Start working on the Argent Tournament. There are Rare and Epic equipment rewards, which you may or may not overgear by the time you unlock them.
3.) Once you can pull 1500 DPS on a boss fight, start running Heroics.
Heroic bosses are level 82, which means you have a larger chance to miss them, and they have a higher chance to dodge, parry, or block your attacks.
Our ICC25 group (with a couple of other guilds) finally downed Rotface Saturday after a few attempts. Woot!
And our ICC10 progression team finally got Sindragosa down. FINALLY. After several weeks of banging our head on p3. kermit arms We actually got her to sub-1% one wipe, groans were had, and we refocused and got her down a couple tries later.
YAY. (omigod)
My guild doesn’t really go in for the kill pictures, but you bet your sweet ass we took several this time.
Before we disbanded for the night, we took a peek into the LK’s lair and do the Disneyland picture thing all clumped up around him. 
Then we started poking at things a bit to see what fell over. Compared to him, Sindy seems like a walk in the park. :eek:
Awesome! Congrats. Nothing more satisfying in this game (IMO) then when a tough boss finally falls over.
Yeah… compared to LK pretty much all of the other fights in ICC are a walk in the park (even on normal). You will quickly identify any weak spots in your raid. But just know that once you kill him on normal mode 6-8/12 Heroic is relatively easy! 
And, what could be cooler than killing the Lich King? 
Congratulations!
Yeah, there are a lot of hardmode fights that are easier than Lich King normal. Even without adding in his hardmode tricks, it’s a fight where everybody in the raid has to be on the ball–one person’s mistake can *very easily *wipe the raid. If somebody drops a Defile in the middle of the raid, or runs through someone else’s defile, or stands on the wrong side of the platform for a Valk (on 25), or doesn’t switch their DPS to the Valk (and/or stun or slow it when assigned to do so) so the person goes off the edge, these are all things where your individual screwup can mean the death of one or more raid members, including people who have jobs that can’t be replaced.
One bad experience this weekend: my first foray into HoR with my holy pally, on heroic. It starts out great: we plowed through all the waves of mobs and first two bosses without any problem at all. Seriously it’s probably the best HoR run I’ve ever been on. We work our way toward the LK and on the very last trash pull, I die just as the mob goes down. The pally tank rezzes me, and I Divine Plea/ sit to drink to gain my mana.
The tank runs up the ramp and starts the LK encounter. When I hear it’s started I run up, but I’m too late: I’m behind the LK and quickly die and the group wipes. In chat I say “Probably should wait for healer before you pull.” Tanks says “WTF why didn’t you say AFK?” I say “I wasn’t AFK, I was drinking.” Next thing I know, I’m kicked from the group.
The hell? Okay, yeah, I could have said “OOM” when I needed to drink, but the tank had just rezzed me, so he knew I was at minimum mana/health. And who pulls the LK without making sure everyone is there? I hope their replacement healer took a long time and was big fail.
Fuzzy. Hot dog. Buns.
/facepalm
Couldn’t agree more. Loot is just a means to an end. It’s definitely gratifying to get rewarded with some new loot and to feel more powerful in whatever role you’re playing, but for me, I do it for the accomplishment of organizing and defeating the hardest content in the game.
Congratulations! That feeling you get, that release of all that frustration from defeating a fight that you’ve been bashing your face against for hours and hours of your life… that feeling is indescribable. Very big cheers to you all. And good luck on LK!
:rolleyes: I second your wish for a long wait, and add that I hope they play on PvP servers and got ganked all the rest of the night.
I was majorly groaded out when I noticed. If you want, I’ll pull 'em out of the trash and send you a picture.
P.S. **IF YOU CAN’T TELL I’M STUCK AT WORK **and our forums are blocked here (another good reason to move to a privately hosted site from Guildomatic). I emailed Cap to ask him to post to my attendance thread to give you guys the heads-up that I might be on late, but if I can catch you here, so much the better.
Nuts to that. People need to say something if they have an issue and not expect everyone to be paying attention to them. Handle your own business and your groups won’t have problems.
Nuts to THAT. The tank’s job includes making sure he doesn’t write checks that the healer can’t cash. DPS job includes not throwing down more on the mobs than the tank can cope with.
What SFG and Zeriel said. “Your own business” includes, for all members of the group, being aware of what the rest are doing.
I have a question for our tanks: do you like it or hate it when someone spontaneously 2.tanks? If I’m for example in the DK, there’s a group of 4 mobs and one of them runs for the clothies just as we’re starting, I’ll grab it back (my reasoning is, it’s easier for the tank to get it off me being right beside him than off a clothie who’s further, plus I can take a couple slaps more easily than a clothie). We’ve had tanks get all huffy about it a few times (I personally haven’t been yelled at for it for some reason, and let it stay that way); I think it’s mostly a case of someone having the Mondays on a Saturday but still: would it bother you guys?
I don’t have a ton of tanking experience (my tank is 71) but I love it when DKs pull wayward mobs to me. Like you said, it’s a lot easier to grab a mob in melee range than one that is over by the healer, especially if my taunt is on cooldown.
I’m glad tanks enjoy this because I do it all the time, being a mail guy with a few instant-cast ranged spells.
Welp, the farming DK I made on Korgath is now leveled up enough in Herbalism and Mining that there’s really no point to actively farming anything else until he’s high enough to start working on Northrend nodes (you need to be at least 65, and he’s 62). Looks like it’s off to questing and dungeon and BG queues for me. My real goal is to get him to 68, so I can get him flying in Northrend.
At this point, I *really *hope I don’t ever have to transfer servers again, because I don’t relish the idea of having to (a) do this all over again or (b) pay another $25 for an extra transfer. (Of course, the plus side would be having another character’s worth of slots to transport items.)
Bullshit. Would it have been a nice bonus if **Skammer **would have said, “Hold on while I drink”? Sure. Should the tank *needed *to have been told that the healer who just got rezzed and is sitting on maybe 1% mana is going to need to drink before they start a 5+ minute gauntlet? Hell no.
Speaking as a tank (and a damned good one), if I pull when the healer has no mana (and I could see they were drinking if I looked at either the character or their buffs), it’s *my fault *if the group wipes.
It’s also easier to *maintain *aggro on a mob that’s in your melee range. Doesn’t do you any good to taunt something that’s at range if the healer or DPS are just going to over-aggro you again. This is why Death Grip, silences, and LOS are a tank’s best friend.
I love it when people bring strays to my tank, especially when they’re ranged mobs who just stand there shooting/casting and there’s no convenient way for me to LOS them.
On my 2nd iteration of Ama, I had this annoying DK in Hellfire Ramparts who refused to run up to where the rest of us melee were fighting trash packs. Instead, he would death grip a random mob from the pack to where he was standing near the healer and attempt to solo it. The first time he did it, I thought maybe he hit the wrong button, but after the second time I stopped taunting it back, and the healer stopped healing him. He survived long enough to do it 3-4 more times before realizing he was cutting it pretty close with just his self-heals. We asked him several times to stop, but I was too curious to see if he’d get himself killed to votekick him.
How about we all work together towards the common goal and look out for each other? Sounds like fun to me.
I have managed to get all the mats required to get jewelcrafting from 1 to 400ish for just under 1,000 gold which I thought was pretty good going. It took three weeks of bidding and losing and bidding again but tonight my Pally will no longer be a miner but a jewelcrafter.
I am busy being emo over the game right now and kind of blah with playing it. I never felt before now that I was grinding, doing quests and running instances got my XP increasing enough that I didn’t feel like I was sitting somewhere grinding forever just to level. Trying to get my Stormwind rep definitely felt like grinding when doing all the low-level quests, since it goes so slowly.
Then I started talking to a friend who played the previous Warcraft games but not WoW, and I’d bring up something like Stratholme and he’d say ‘I played that campaign! I was Arthas!’ and then I realized you’re never going to get those awesome experiences without a big raid group. You can’t 5-man instance (or God forbid, solo) any of the big lore bosses like Kael, Illidan and Arthas. And since I don’t want the responsibility of a raiding guild, I’m doing things like speccing in Beast Mastery and not doing very high DPS for a Hunter which would make people be like, meh, we don’t want you.
So yeah, now I remember why I was always skeptical of playing an MMORPG before.