New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Oh, by the way, I didn’t play the game for a few days, came back to queue for Direbrew, and noticed I could do Heroics. I haven’t done one yet though, I’ve decided to keep on going with normals for a couple of weeks. I still have a lot of item slots that could use an upgrade, I don’t have my Marksmanship rotation down pat and I’m still getting a new dungeon almost every time I queue up.

Speaking of dungeons, the ICC line where Jaina/Sylvanas pushes you through multiples? I accidentally forgot to grab one of the question marks so I totally failed my group. :smack: I don’t know if I should abandon the quest line totally and restart, or if I’m okay gamewise being done with Forge of Souls but stuck at Pit of Saron.

You don’t need to complete the quests to move forward, IIRC–just the dungeons themselves.

Don’t try to start over–you won’t be able to, since you’ve already completed part of the quest chain. If you failed the step you’re on somehow, just abandon that step and then re-acquire it. But it sounds like you completed it and just forgot to turn it in–so just turn it in the next time you’re at the end of that instance.

It is actually necessary to complete each stage in the quest chain in order to be able to go to the next dungeon, so far as I’m aware. WoWwiki would seem to back me up:

It says similar for Halls of Reflection.

On the other hand, the wiki’s been wrong before.

Someone (I think maybe Shin) in the BDL mentioned that they were deliberately not finishing the PoS quest so as to never be randomed into HoR, which seems like a sound idea to me.

I think that’s right – someone once told me that if I didn’t ever want be randomly put into Hall of Reflections, not to turn in the quest at the end of PoS although I could finish PoS as many times as I wanted to.

But from what I understand, if I get randomly put into Forge of Souls (where I have completed the quest line) or Pit of Saron (where I need to turn in a quest) I can turn in the quest and then go onto Halls of Reflection. Having completed the quest chain in Forge of Souls but not Pit of Saron won’t screw me up for turning in the PoS quest, correct?

Correct. It’s just a quest chain that works like any other quest chain. Once part of it is completed, it doesn’t become magically un-completed just because you didn’t turn a later part in.

But then don’t I also have to get a new mount? I may be mistaken but I thought the total cost was like 4 grand?

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There are two flying skills you can buy:

Level 70 - Artisan Riding (AKA Epic Flight) - 5000g, but can be lowered by reputation. This lets you ride very fast flying mounts. You do need to buy a new mount to use this.

Level 77 - Cold Weather Flying - 1000g. This lets you fly in Northrend using your existing mounts. You do not need to buy a new mount for this.

Artisan Riding is totally optional. Cold Weather Flying is sort of optional, but you’ll hate the last few levels if you don’t get it.

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The fact that you’re getting a message about the dragon disappearing tells me that you’re probably in the wrong area. They don’t want you to be able to fly all over, so if you go outside the correct zone, you’ll get a warning to turn back and then it will despawn your mount.

Check the description of where you’re supposed to be picking up villagers carefully, then check where you are on the map. Looking up the quest on Wowhead may also give you further details on exactly where you should be.

I did that, SFG and discovered I wasn’t flying close enough to Naxx, so I corrected and actually did see the little villagers running around. Just wasn’t nimble enough to pick them up. But I got the same message from the game about being dropped…
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Thanks, Bosstone! Headed that way now.

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I said “essentially” nonexistent. Windows users like to repeat ad nauseum the “less common platform” argument, but most simply don’t understand that the way Mac OS X functions is fundamentally different from the way Windows functions. And Macs are far more common than Linux machines, yet there are more Linux viruses than Mac viruses.

Well, the first link to to the blog of a ranting Mac-hater and links to the relevant Intego announcement from the middle of April, which announcement specifically says, “While Intego has not found any instances of Macs being infected by this in the wild…” Being this was almost 6 months ago, that particular vulnerability has undoubtedly been patched by now. Another link quotes a university IT specialist, who erroneously states that Mac OS X is based on Linux, while also quoting that same university’s resident Mac expert who says she installs antivirus software purely because it’s policy, not because she thinks Macs are especially vulnerable. Another of those links lists several viruses that existed in the “old” Mac OS, which was an entirely different OS from OS X, and one pretty harmless OS X virus from 2006.

Anyway, I’ve run spyware/keylogger scans and also downloaded and run antivirus software, and my machine came up clean, as expected.

Further investigation leads me to suspect a Wowhead Looter/Client security problem. It occurred to me that I never type any of my toons’ names in conjunction with my password, so how would a keylogger (if I had one) even connect the two? And there’s also the fact that this e-mail was sent to the wrong e-mail address - my primary e-mall address (which is the one registered with Wowhead) rather than the unique address I use as my Battle.net/game login. That Wowhead Looter/Client, though … it tracks everything my characters loot, and also tracks their tradeskills, pets, mounts, gear, etc, and uploads that as well to my character profiles on the Wowhead site. So since I was using the same password for Wowhead that I used for the game itself, the Wowhead client was sending that password to log into Wowhead, and then, I assume, transmitting my character names for the purpose of updating my profiles. While the Windows version of the Wowhead Client was created by the paid Wowhead programmers, the Mac version was coded by a “volunteer” (I was told this when I submitted a bug report a while back) and thus may not have been subjected to the same level of testing as the Windows client. It’s possible, then, that the Mac Wowhead Client is not adequately encrypting the information it transmits, leaving open the chance that that information might be intercepted. I’ve reported these concerns to Wowhead, so we’ll see where that goes.

On my mage, I deliberately avoided talking to that initial questgiver in Dalaran so that the LFG tool wouldn’t randomly dump me into the ICC 5-mans, as I’d been led to believe I couldn’t do the heroic versions until I’d done the normal versions. That turned out to be incorrect. When my mage’s gear eventually got good enough (through drops from other heroics + Triumph gear), she started getting dumped into heroic FoS and then H:PoS, still without having ever done the “normal” versions. She’s never been randomed into H:HoR, though - I think you do have to talk to Jaina for that. Except for her staff, bracers, boots, and one trinket, all of her gear is iLvl 232 minimum, including a few 245s, the 264 Frost badge cloak, and the T10 iLvl 251 shoulders.

My Coren Direbrew runs are turning into a repeat of my Frost Lord Ahune runs - both of my lvl 80 paladins have now received … the dagger (they also both got the staff off Ahune). My mage did get the Mithril Pocketwatch, so I guess that’s something. Keliraeda, my belf pally, got her Frost total high enough to buy the iLvl 264 cloak (Might of the Ocean Serpent, or whatever it’s called), which was a major upgrade from the iLvl 187 cloak she’d been wearing. And Eilyssana, my lvl 80 human pally, doesn’t need to do anything but Direbrew runs for the mount now. She earned Brewmaster last year, and has all the achievements. She got both of the pets last year as well, so all she had left to purchase with tokens this year was the Brewfest Pony Keg and the B.E.E.R. Goggles, and she’s done that. No more ram racing for her!

And speaking of ram racing, is it just me or is the Horde version completely borked compared to the Alliance version? When I do it on my Alliance toons, I can consistently complete 14 circuits for 28 tokens every time, without my ram ever getting “exhausted” or getting hung up on an apple barrel or other obstacle, and never needing to slow down. I can make my turns several yards from the keg tosser and keg catcher and they’ll detect my presence and toss or catch my keg as appropriate. The barrels are placed where you can easily leap over them. Meanwhile on the Horde side, the NPCs don’t seem to notice me unless I ride right over top of them; the apple barrels don’t trigger unless I run my ram right into them, the apple barrels are positioned where it’s impossible to jump over them, and the first barrel after the keg-catching NPC is exactly far enough away for my ram to hit 100 and become exhausted a split second before I hit it. I can’t believe the problem is lag - Lightbringer and Cairne are hosted in the same server farm, and Cairne’s Horde population is far lower than Lightbringer’s Alliance population, so there are fewer Hordies doing the ram racing at any given time. Yet my Horde toons on Cairne are lucky to complete 8 circuits.

I don’t know about the rest of it, but there is an apple barrel in the corral the “example” Brewfest mounts live in, behind the keg-catcher. I just widen my route to go through the corral before I loop around to give the catcher the barrel. I haven’t been keeping track of my maximums or averages, though…after I got Brewmaster I quit doing dailies.

Technically you don’t need Cold Weather Flying–you can borrow a cheapo flyer from the guy in K3 for free–but the thing flies at about walking speed, so it’s probably only an option if you’re really broke.

I left the Brewfest for a while. I DID catch all of the Notfertingers, but am confused (SURPRISE!) about S.T.O.U.T. I can’t find him… also the ram races are something we can do…

Some other q’s:

  1. Do y’all think we’re using our crossbow TOO much? When there’s 10 of some monsters to kill, we always draw them to us using the bow. Anything better/else we could be doing?

  2. Borean leather: I now have over 120 of those Hershey Kisses looking things stored in my mule’s (Wollkie - notice the two l’s) bank bags. Why? They aren’t selling at auctions, and I am pricing them ONLY as “auctioneer” tells me - not higher. Would I be better of just offering them for sale on the trade channel, and how do I do that (when it comes to selling them, I mean?)

  3. Wolkie and Silka are flying!

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S.T.O.U.T. is the robot thing walking around inside the corral at the tent where you get that quest. You just pick up a tankard (right-click on the ones on the table), which will put a full tankard in your bags, then right-click on the tankard in your bags while facing the robot thing. You’ll chug and chuck the tankard at it. When you hit it 5 times, you finished that quest.

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2. Borean leather: I now have over 120 of those Hershey Kisses looking things stored in my mule’s (Wollkie - notice the two l’s) bank bags. Why? They aren’t selling at auctions, and I am pricing them ONLY as “auctioneer” tells me - not higher. Would I be better of just offering them for sale on the trade channel, and how do I do that (when it comes to selling them, I mean?)

If they’re just not selling in the AH, you’re probably better off just selling them to a vendor.

Congratulations!

The Horde have a longer circuit to ride compared to the Alliance, so they have to grind slightly more to achieve their goals. There are dumb little discrepancies in other holiday events too, like the Midsummer Festival (I believe the Horde can collect slightly more tokens on that one IIRC, thus needing to grind slightly less). I’m not sure why it’s so difficult for them to make both factions have the same earning potential for events; I imagine it’s just lazy design.

Yes and no. I realize Quasi isn’t likely to be doing a lot of heroics, but with a little help from his friends he might be able to complete a heroic Strat once he hits 80 - that drake is a fast mount, isn’t it?

Yes it is.

The fast mounts aren’t that expensive, though. Less than 100g right? It’s the Artisan Riding that is painful.