Right! I forgot about Mind Control. Its drawback is that it’s a channelled spell, though, so its use is very situational. I usually heal in groups so I’ve never really used it except in PvP.
I think people are getting too hung up on the idea of “if I can’t CC everything, my CC doesn’t matter.” AFAIK, every CC has classes of enemies it doesn’t work against. And different instances have different amounts of different kinds of enemies. Just because your CC isn’t useful in one area doesn’t mean you’re not going to be everybody’s best friend in the next. Having a CC that works against a limited range of mobs (e.g., only Undead or only Beasts) is not remotely the same thing as having no CC ability at all.
What the hell happened in that fight, anyway? We mostly burned through everything pretty fast, because of all the people hanging around to do their own quests (and keep the other faction off, since it’s a PvP server). It looked at the end like [spoiler]he picked his own carriage up and ran around with it?![spoiler]
Ah, OK. So you’re proposing all members contributing to a pot that is basically spent only by one raid group (or one person even). I guess that would work, but it seems a small thing for me, and has potential to cause a bit of drama.
Our guild has 3 10-man raid groups who all are starting progression (one group got a few bosses down last week, but most are starting this week or after Christmas), for example, so you’re down to 9 wipes per group, which is like one night of progression maybe. Or, put another way, the combined efforts of almost 40 people over two weeks could buy one BoE or crafted epic.
I think it’s a poorly thought out guild perk, in that it takes combined guild effort and focuses the reward in the hands of the officers (or just the GM even). I think it should either be large enough to provide a potential benefit to everyone, or just be replaced with a “repair discount” reward or something of the like.
Nobody is “contributing,” at least not in the sense you seem to mean. The money isn’t being skimmed off the top of what you’re making; it’s a bonus *in addition to *what you loot, which can then be used as whoever controls your gbank sees fit. You don’t get any *less *money; the guild just gets some, too.
In a raiding guild like mine, that’s probably goign to be toward guild repairs for progression fights, recipes for the guild’s crafters, etc., because that’s the point of our guild. Raid progression is our be-all and end-all, and the needs of the raid outweigh the needs of any individual person. So, yes, there will be money flowing into the gbank from friend-and-family players or alts who might never see a personal, direct benefit from that cash, because that’s the point of the guild: the raid.
In a casual guild, the GM might choose to raffle off BOE armor or vanity items, purchase another tab for the gbank, set up a fund for outfitting new alts with bags and starter cash, etc.
Free money is free money. If you don’t want yours, feel free to save it up and throw it my way. 
Yes, he did.
He doesn’t do anything really until he transforms into a Worgen. Then he’ll do a Crazed Frenzy which hits like a train carrying a mac truck and he’ll pick up his carriage and run around smacking people with it. Hilarious until he turns and runs at you.
It’s really annoying when other people are there doing quests. We had a group that was mid combat when we arrived and they would kite the boss out of the arena which would reset him and allow us to take the next quest. Then there would be two bosses in the arena which led to some confusion and a couple of wipes.
Not sure how many of you listen to podcasts, but there’s a great podcast called Legendary that I’ve been watching/listening to. Goes live on Tuesday night, but the edited version is usually out on Thursday or Friday. I think it’s available on iTunes as well, but I don’t use iTunes so I’ve no clue how to search for it. Just wanted to throw that out there for everyone.
Oh dear gods no. I’ve never used my traps ever. Now I’m going to have to learn! panic
I’ve also tried my interrupt shots a few times in the past but they never seemed to actually interrupt anything, so I used the time to pew-pew instead.
Oh gods, yes. We were 1/4 of the way into the Worgen dude fight when somehow a second group started the first event concurrently (the ogre with the AE fear and smash of doom + whirlwind). Needless to say, having those abilities affecting us during frenzied cut-you-up led to both groups wiping :rolleyes: Idiots.
Some abilities can’t be interrupted. Watch the cast bar–if it has a little shield around it, that means you can’t interrupt it. (If the caster can be stunned, though, that will still interrupt the cast–but most bosses are immune to stuns.)
Pain and suffering causes a magic debuff and can be dispelled instead of interrupted.
Orly? And it won’t just keep getting reapplied if you don’t interrupt it (e.g., the same way that decursing on the second boss of HoR doesn’t do you any good if the person doesn’t move out of the void zone)?
Having done both the Silverpine questline and the Worgen starting questline, it’s interesting how Blizzard managed to beautifully balance the viewpoints. I did the Forsaken questline first, and Crowley was a beast, no pun intended. He was ruthless, cruel, dedicated to the genocide of the Forsaken and an absolute villain from the Forsaken viewpoint.
Then I started my Worgen. And Crowley turns out to be a patriot, a freedom-fighter, a defender and a freakin’ hero! My mindset of him as “villain” was stuck so bad that I kept expecting, right up to the end of the questline, for him to enact a coup against Greymane at some point.
Excellent work on Blizzard’s part. Whoever they had write the scenarios for those zones got the balance absolutely right!
While working my toon in Cairne a few nights ago, I was on the border of the Eastern Plaguelands with an instance hovering above.
One of my guildies advised me to stay out of there, and I’m glad I did, because it was surrounded by 85’s and Usumbij was only 18 at the time.
Weird, though, seeing the Plaguelands from Cairne.
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Done a heroic a night for the last 4 days and while I really intended to be a healer at 85 I’m really loving my moonkin - the group I run with has a holy pally whose offspec he doesn’t really care for so I’ve been dps every run so far. Besides doing decent dps even though I don’t really have that DPS’er mentality to turn the knobs all the way to 11, there’s so many utility buttons I have: Tranquility, Solar Beam, glyphed Engulfing Roots (instant), glyphed Hurricane (AE snare), Innervate, Rebirth.
We’ve usually had 2 melee guys and me with the melees doing the interrupts (which is something a warrior can do, at least), there being a bunch of fights that are basically impossible without reliable interrupts, like first boss at ToT and first boss at SFK. Sap, roots, AE silence and kicks are usually enough for trash packs, though when we’ve had a pally with Repentance instead of our warrior it has made some things easier, gotta admit.
I do wonder what the people who leave a group after the first wipe in heroics really ever get done. We’ve had to pug the tanks, and it usually requires 2-3 “sry dog ate my homewrk” guys who mysteriously vanish after the first wipe before we’ve gotten a proper tank who can stomach the number of wipes it takes to get through the heroic. With the repair bills so low these days, it doesn’t even really matter if you wipe 12 times during a run, as long as you make steady progress. Once you get a group where every member is eager to try again after a wipe Cata heroics are a total blast, though.
Uh…
Did you by chance miss the quest where he captured Genn and planned on selling him to Sylvanas?
You’re thinking of Godfrey (the dude in the top hat).
sb, as Tom noted, that was Lord Godfrey (the one who
comes back as an undead lieutenant for Sylvanas and…well, if you haven’t played it, I’m not gonna spoil it.
Disagree. When I played through the Forsaken quests, I thought they made Crowley look like a hero and Sylvanas look like a chump (and was sore wroth with Blizzard because of it).
Just healed my first heroic. In one word, painful. In two words, painfully long.
I got stuck in a dungeon already in progress at first, with the group in question composed of four people from Nazgrel all in the same guild. We were at the second boss in BRC and just couldn’t kill him (granted, I bleeped up one of the times, but no one had bothered to explain the mechanics to me so they let it go). They decided to requeue—and we got stuck in Vortex Pinnacle. 45G in repairs and an hour and a half later, we finished the damned thing. I think, other than the tank, I was the best geared in the instance since I had 20-30k health above what two of the group members had and I’m a friggin resto druid. It was fun, in a perverse sortof way, but wow if one thing goes wrong with CC/positioning, you are likely to wipe. I did learn that, contrary to my fears, I DID have plenty of mana/healing throughput to heal effectively assuming someone else didn’t do something stupid like break CC or stand in the fire. I’m hoping more BDLers hit 85 soon so we can do guild runs till we learn all of the instances, though.
Belive or not, but that’s (possibly) the easiest heroic in Cata. Granted, it has some nasty trash, but the bosses aren’t too bad.
Yeah, he’ll stop channeling when it gets dispelled.