New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Except the way the zones are now set up, each zone is basically a linear-ish plotline, with each set of 3 or 4 quests only appearing when you’ve finished the last lot. If it’s true that people are outleveling them even without heirlooms, that’s kind of annoying.

Deliver package to Loch Modan?

I’m abandoning this one as soon as it appears, because it’s so damn far away and it’s being offered to my lower level characters.

Anyone else?

Thanks

Q

That’s the one for the dwarf in Stormwind? Go ahead and take it. It’s a long trip, but it’s good xp and can usually be managed well below the nominal quest level, which means even MORE xp. Plus you can get a return-trip quest to hand to someone in the Dwarven Quarter in Stormwind for another good chunk of xp. There’s no necessity to actually fight anything (outside of possible incidental proximity aggro, but that’s possible to completely avoid on those quests), just travel. When you get to the tower with the quest recipient, get the return quest from him (the one to bring his order back to Stormwind) then walk south on that road beside the tower until you get to Thelsamar. Grab the fp, fly to Ironforge, take the tram, and BAM! Two quests done without even having to kill anything.

That’s basically a “breadcrumb” quest that’s supposed to lead you to the next level-appropriate hub. You can hang onto it until you’re ready to move on into that area anyways. It shouldn’t really matter, most breadcrumb quests are optional and don’t have much impact one way or another, particularly if you already know your way around. There are a small few that keep you locked out of quest chains if you don’t do them, which is why I usually hang onto them anyways.

Spinning Survey Tool
Alternating Zig Zag Path
Eighty Yards Per Leg

Oh, are the reworked old zones on as heavy of rails as the new ones? That *would *be obnoxious, then.

Okay. Guess I’ll reacquire it . :slight_smile:

Thanks

Q

Sort of the same, actually. The reworked old world zones are pretty heavy on the rails.

What they’ve done, in large part, is add many more quest hubs to the old zones, and split quests up among those hubs, rather than having just a one or two quest hubs in a zone.

So whereas before a questgiver would tell you “run down the road for about 3 minutes, kill 10 bears around that area, then run back here to me”, they now tell you “run down the road for 3 minutes to NewPostCataclysmQuestHubCamp, and talk to so-and-so there.” When you reach NewPostCataclysmQuestHubCamp, so-and-so welcomes you and then asks you “just step into the woods across the road, kill 10 bears there, and come back”. Plus, there are usually 2-3 other questgivers at the new hub as well.

So there’s a lot less of endless running back and forth between the quest hubs and the targets, because the quest hubs are more frequent and better distributed. Plus, most of the new quest hubs have flight points, which makes getting around much easier.

Eventually though, someone will give you a breadcrumb quest to reach the next zone. However (as I’m sure you know) you always had to be level-appropriate to obtain that breadcrumb quest. But now, not only to you have to be at the adequate level, but you have to be in the correct quest hub to obtain it. So if you’re leveling too fast you’ll be doing quests that don’t grant a lot of XP before you can obtain the breadcrumb into the next zone.

Except for some zones. They completely reworked Silverpine Forest, to the extreme better. That was an epic questline…

However, the flip side of that is that you can’t just jump straight to the Sepulcher in Silverpine at level 15 and do the higher-level quests. You have to ride the rails all the way up. Which is nicely epic but also kind of annoying if you’ve already seen it.

Okay, reacquired that delived the Stormpinke quest. Guess I should have picked up the Ironforge fp while I was in there, 'cause I have the one in Thel but can’t go anywhere with it. I picked up a couple of quests in Dun, but none in Loch M. Just turned in the package, and that guy didn’t give me anything to take back. I did pick up about 4 q’s in Thel, though, so i will do those.

Thanks

Q

PS: meant to say, : Shit what a long way to go! :slight_smile:

True. The use of phasing is what puts things on the rails. And they really went all out on the phasing in Cata.

Sorry, Quasi…I should have included a reminder to grab that fp in IF. They must have removed the return quest when they changed things around for Cata.

One thing about IF I finally got solved: I kept avoiding it because I couldn’t find my way in there on foot! (flying, no prob) I WAS going around the edge of the tram platform and going up and down those damn steps and never could find a way in.

Today, with Boyhowdy doing the Stormpike quest, I “stumbled” upon that tunnel with the stuff going round and round and found my way in, so I’m glad you told me to go ahead and do that quest, jayjay! :slight_smile:

I remember that quest - I asked about that quest in my OP when I started the first of these megathreads back in 12/2008 :smiley:

Oh dear Og, that is the thing that drives me absolutely insane when “surveying”! Especially when it keeps forcing you to repeatedly cross back and forth over a river or lake.
I just finished up the major quest/story line in Westfall with my human Subtlety rogue on Wyrmrest Accord, and I have to say “Well done!” I totally didn’t see that coming.

Question: Is there any truth to what I heard that, if your guild’s Guild Leader hasn’t logged in for more than a month, any member of the guild can petition a GM to be made GL? The GL of my guild on Argent Dawn has been unemployed for a while and unable to pay for his WoW subscription, and so hasn’t been around for the last 4 months or so. As a result, the guild has slowly dwindled down to 35 characters (and of those 35, ten are mine and the GL’s alts). Since I’m an officer, I thought I might try this if it can really be done, though of course I’d happily step back down when/if the current GL returns. I should add the guild is a casual RP guild, not a raiding or PvP guild. The GL’s rank is “King”, so if I was made temporary GL I’d probably change that to “King Regent” or maybe “Steward” - just keeping the throne warm until the King himself gets back.

AFAIK, yes. Well, not *any *member, but the highest active rank. It’s certainly worth opening a ticket, or having someone from the highest rank of officer do so if you’re not the top person with the GM offline.

ETA: And seriously, if you’re not using the addons I mentioned upthread, you’re making your Archaeology life so much harder than it has to be. I’ll try to remember to copy over my post from another forum with links and screenshots when I get home, if I’m still vertical then.

I use Archy, but I haven’t looked into Archaeology Helper yet. Somehow I doubt it will help much when the surveying itself points you in zigzags, which is my main problem with the profession. Looking at the HUD screenshots though, I think I’ll grab it when I get home anyways.

And Rik, once you see the zigzag patterns emerging, I’ve been having decent luck taking a vector sum of the different directions instead of following the tool precisely.

THE NEXT TIME I HAVE TO GO INTO CRUMBLING DEPTHS, SOMEONE WILL DIE.

Unfortunately, I have to go in there 9 more times to get Pebble. This is gonna get ugly folks.

I’m so going to check out the Archaeology addons. Now that I think about it, the map hasn’t highlighted a dig site for me since the first time.

You only get the rescue-pebble quest one out of five or maybe even ten times. A lot less often than the daily from the goblin who’s already down there.

I wish a Pebble non-combat pet was available when you hit Exalted with Therazane.