New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

I haven’t used the new guild finder, but the tried and true methods of finding a guild still works. Depending on your server there may be guilds advertising in trade chat or the realm forums. Check sites like wowprogress.com or guildox.com. Go to the guilds’ websites, talk to some officers if you think it’ll be a good fit. Be patient, finding a good guild doesn’t happen over night.

Healing can be daunting at first, especially if you are used to how it was at the end of the last expansion. Doing some normals to get used to the new styles of healing is definitely a good idea. Healing heroics at entry level gear can be very hard if your group doesn’t work with you. Don’t hesitate to ask for CCs, you will need them unless the rest of the group out gears the instance. But know that everything scales very fast with gear. The difference between having 333 level gear and even 346 is very clear, so even if you have some difficulties at first, just hang in there. It’ll get easier.

I’ll leave detailed discussions of the priest class to others more qualified.

Really odd experience last night. Queued up for a random BG on my pally (63 now, woot!), the queue popped, I see I’ve drawn WSG and start to sigh, because I hate WSG…so I zone in, and immediately get the WSG Perfection and Victory achievements, 100K xp, and about 100 honor–game over. I did absolutely nothing to earn those rewards. Never even moved after zone in. Felt kinda like the old AD&D cartoon, with the dragon in a box with a slot, and a sign saying insert sword in slot for 10,000 XP…

OldGeekCred alert: minotaur, not dragon.

Enjoy! Someone dropped and you zoned in; makes up for the times you’ve dropped, or wasted half an hour on a losing battle.

Our BG weekend is WSG, and for some reason I’ve never really minded that BG, though I know most people hate it. Somehow I got Ironman, too; I don’t think the Horde were trying very hard, but I’ll take the achievement purely for…um…not sure what. But I’ll take it! :stuck_out_tongue:

Hey all. Played WoW casually from launch through the very beginning of Lich King expansion. I never got a character higher than, IIRC, 62 or 63. My wife may have done a little better, level-wise. I never was on the SDMB server. Long story short, we quit playing for a long time, and meanwhile, our account got hijacked. It is SUCH a PITA to deal with Blizzard. We just got a new computer, and basically said, screw it, lets just start fresh.

I’m downloading the trial account now, and expect to buy through Cataclysm within a week.

Just saying hi.

Joe

Hi and welcome back, the new levelling experience (to 60 at least) is much more pleasurable and quick thankfully.

Though regarding levelling the grind through Outland is not so quick but yet I’ve done it on my 4th character now, my rogue dinged 68 late last night, to Northrend!

It depends on class. My healer blew through Outland quickly thanks to very fast dungeon queues - it’s probably a bit more tedious for DPS. It also helps if you have the +xp heirlooms and guild bonus, which someone starting from scratch won’t have, unfortunately.

wheresgeorge, if you’re interested, you’re welcome to join us in our SDMB guild on Cairne. We’ve always got people leveling alts and we also have quite a few max-level folks to give you a hand with things like bags, enchants, and crafted gear.


Over the weekend I got my 78 (now 79) shammy to hit 525 in mining and I’m around 500 in engineering. Mining has been fun, sneaking around Hyjal and then Uldum with an aggro radius of about 50 yards. But fortunately, especially in Uldum, there are plenty of ore nodes along the edges of the zone away from scary mobs who can kill me quickly. And usually I can drop a totem to distract them while I run away, so I usually survive. Looking forward to hitting 80 this week though!

Huntards remain the bane of my tankadin’s existence. Working through the Outland dungeons…Ramparts, Furnace, Slavepens, Underbog, Mana Tombs, Crypt–it never fails. Get a huntard in the group that’s at the upper end of the level range for the dungeon, and he’s going to fuck it up, likely to cause at least one wipe–then rage quit or group falls apart.

I do not give a damn if you are lvl 66 in Ramparts. You and your raptor pet are not tanks. You do not have misdirect yet. You DO NOT FUCKING PULL, ASSHOLE. I’m the tank. I pull. You quietly stand in the back, send in pet (growl off, dumbass), and shoot whatever I am tanking. That’s it. I have no further expectations of you. Easy-peasy.

Instead, brain dead moron playing the huntard does the typical huntard crap–pulls three more groups before the first group is down, whines about taking damage from the mobs he fucking pulled, does not understand why I will go to heroic lengths to keep mobs off the healer and the sane dps, but mostly just watch the huntard die…etc.

GRRRRR. Oak does not like huntards!*

*I have a hunter, level 44 or so. He does not do the stupid shit discussed above.

Huh…I just found out last night that Old Ironforge is open now. First time I’ve been in the throne room since Cata dropped. Not much to see down there, other than Diamond Magni (which is one major reason I went exploring, to be honest).

Grats on the mining. My move to Horde has left me with only the one toon with 525 professions so every now and then I jump on my low level farmer (druid) or skinner (huntard!) to increase my revenue. Think I’ll dual spec the druid as resto when I hit Outland and I hope I’ll have the same experience as you with the RDF.

For me, though hunters do seem to do it a lot, it’s been most pure DPS classes in the Outland dungeons (one of my alts is a disc priest at level 67). It’s like they can’t spend one extra second in Outland to wait for the tank to pull. So they pull, and it’s suddenly an aggro fiesta, and I’m going through my mana like it’s milk on its sell-by date. Special bonus points are apparently awarded if you pull the boss and the trash all at once. Then, when I’ve spent myself keeping everyone up–apparently, the last patch gave mages a tanking spec–they pull again.

Also, the abuse of other players seemed to ramp up in Outland. I’ve never been on the receiving end, but I’ve seen it directed at other players, mostly tanks. Every kind of bigoted, sexist, offensive thing. Once, in Underbog, it got bad enough that, after they were too busy describing raping each others’ female relatives to properly play, that I said, “you are all horrible human beings” and dropped group.

I can’t wait 'till 68. . .

I don’t like huntards, and I play one. I mean, a hunter. As my main.

I don’t know why so many of the worst players roll hunter. It’s almost totemic, how bad hunters can be. I’ve initiated vote-kick only three times in the history of the kick voting system: twice were huntards. (No, no gear envy: this was WotLK-era, running heroic 5s, and I was already Icecrown raid geared, so I needed nothing from either run except successful conclusion.)

I’ve made mistakes; I’ve made boneheaded mistakes; I’ve made epically stupid boneheaded mistakes. (Ask some day about pulling 1/3 of UBRS. Let’s just say I dismiss pets before jumping any non-continuous path compulsively.)

But the described behavior is beyond that. It takes effort and dedication to be that terribad. I facepalm in shame and offer humble apology to you on behalf of all the other consciencious hunters in the game.

Solo play is pretty different from group play on hunters, that may be one of the reasons they derp all over the place, but by Outlands they should have figured it out.

I still pull a Huntard every once in a while, which is one of the reasons I’m not into current raiding. I mean, I haven’t caused a wipe in a loooong time, but I’ll do something stupid like not re-selecting my Aspect after I die. Whoops. But because the RDF tries not to put two of the same class in the same party I haven’t witnessed many Huntards.

Children’s Week this year had a quest where you went to see Diamond Magni. It was rather morbid, all these orphans gathered around asking stupid questions while the guards stood around apologizing for not being able to save him.

I didn’t do Children’s Week Alliance-side this year, but that make sense. I know that Horde-side, you take your orphan to Red Rocks in Mulgore to witness the pyre-lighting for Cairne.

You don’t need to be a hunter to do that. My imp is proof of that. Just substitute “Heroic BRC” for “UBRS,” and you’ve got it down. Fortunately, the group responded well to, “Oh, fuck me, I’m an idiot.”

Yeah, I did that orphan quest on my toons. On one level, it’s touching. On another level, it’s like “OMG, he died MONTHS ago, and you’re only NOW getting around to cremating him? Geez, you Tauren are weird.”

There’s a lot of lore pathos in the game nowadays. For some reason, I got the idea in my head that my main (the orc hunter) was good friends with a lot of the NPCs in Camp Taurajo. So, you can imagine the unholy joy of slaughtering woefully underlevel Alliance NPCs when doing the South Barrens quest chains.

In particular, I can’t figure out the Alliance questgiver General Hawthorne. He commanded the attack on Taurajo. If you talk to him (as an Alliance toon, in the course of getting some of his quests), he’ll claim that he worked to minimize Horde civilian casualties, but I have doubts.

Anyway, I’m glad the Horde gets this quest and assassinates him while he’s on the road with a small bodyguard. Saves me the trouble of trying to kill the questgiver version of the NPC, which has a few practical issues.

I didn’t realize how much I missed the game. For my first character in about 18 months, I made a hunter - easy for early survivability. I like that you start with a pet now! But I think I’ll go with a priest as my main, maybe a mage.

I may be wrong, but is ASWD for movement new? Wasn’t movement controlled with the mouse before? And how do I surface from underwater? I KNOW that was mouse-controlled before, but I was unable to come up from Stonebull Lake - I had to follow the bottom until I hit land. Luckily, it seems that I have more lung capacity than before…

Joe

Don’t think that’s new to WoW. Pretty sure ASWD movement has been used in multiple games, including** Everquest** and Everquest 2.

For the underwater thing, when swimming, hold the right mouse button down, aim your character up, push forward movement button (or I suppose once you’re aimed properly, you could hold down both mouse buttons to “run” foward). Mouse-turning works on land or on a flying mount, too.

Yeah, I’m comfortable with WASD, but I thought it wasn’t used in WoW. Whatever, it’s been a long time since I played…

Having done both sides and looked up some really odd sites, there’s some deep-conspiracy lore there that Hawthorne -was- trying to keep things calm, but one of his underlings (another alliance quest-giver) doesn’t like the idea, and possibly ‘allows’ the assassination even after knowing about it. As a lore junkie, I can’t really say for sure one way or another, but it’s an interesting take on it all.

And as for the Cairne thing, I wish I’d known. Would’ve actually done the horde orphan quests for that. Out of all the mass-disappearance NPC’s, Cairne is definitely on the ‘I’m gonna miss him.’ List. :frowning: