New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Thanks, Oak!!! Tonight was actually the 4th night I’ve done the raid. I’ll have to look up some of the terms you used (such as stack and warning for bladestorm - I do bladestorm when I rush into a fight. Am I not supposed to?)

Also, I set a record for myself just a little while ago: I did all of the 25 allowed dailies. That’s a first and of course my ankles look like basketballs, but I’m done for the night.

Thanks

Q

You can bladestorm or use whatever other abilities you may have, except your taunt…you do not want the boss to attack you instead of the tank.

You run away when the boss bladestorms…assuming you are fighting the boss that talks about how much she hates…well…pretty much everything.

“Stacking” means everybody stands as close together as possible.

You can do that raid one time per week, assuming you kill the boss. It resets on Tuesday.

Oak?

I think we may be talking about 2 different raids. I’ve done the one called “Tol Barad” for 4 nights straight and have been using the HP to buy Wolkie better gear as recommended by Rik.

Far as I know, no bosses are involved there, just Warden Vigil, Slagworks, Iron Compound etc.

Thanks

Q

Oh…that is not an actual raid. That’s a battleground, sorta like Wintergrasp. You get a note that you have joined a raid group because your team usually has more than 5 members. You can queue for that every two hours and change if you like…and there’s a weekly quest to win it one time for extra honor and TB commendations. Whichever team wins that battle controls the area, gets the quests you’ve been doing for Problim et al, and can access the Baradin Hold raid I described above.

Could that be because the WoW files are so huge the computer senses there’s not enough room on a 700 Mb CDR and aborts? If so, what can I do to fix this?

I’ve been working on this all night (well 3 hours now) and cannot get anything but disc 1 copied.

Can anyone help with this?

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Q

If you’re trying to backup your WoW files, that’s going to be tricky. Your WoW folder will be several GIGAbytes in size - way too much to put on a CD or even a DVD. Mine is at 50.1 GB right now [del](though a lot of that is screenshots)[/del], and that’s more than a dozen DVDs right there.

The only thing you really need to backup is your WTF folder. That has all your “personal” stuff in it. Everything else can be reinstalled and repatched.

Edit: actually, only 1.08 GB of that is screenshots…

So go to my WoW files and delete everything WoW related except the WTF folder?

I’m doing the Carbonite 15 day free trial. It sounds like (even at 60 bucks a year) this may be the best way for me to back up my files.

Thanks, Rik.

Sorry unable to bold again.

Q

No, don’t delete anything! Just copy the WTF folder over to the CDR, Unfortunately, since I don’t use Windows and don’t know what backup software you’re using, I can’t tell you how to do that.

Hehe…well this wasn’t even our original thread either…

As for PvP…I’m pretty well sucked into it…I believe I’m average to slightly better than average now than most players. I really only have one toon that raids and pvps (click on 2nd spec to see my gear stats). Or this link will have my 2v2 rating and other achievements. I found a discipline priest who seems to work nicely with me over the last few weeks so we can rack up the Conquest Points in an hour (at best) to two hours (at worst) for the week. Sometimes we beat the crap out of the other team quickly, otherwise…we can get into quite a few long matches (10 to 15 minutes) that we usually win by burning down their mana or vice versa. Our team is a little short when it comes to CCs, but generally we can fight through them. Mages used to be a PITA, but very seldom are now. I laugh at hunters now…they are usually the first to die in any circumstance…but we’ve been skewered by a pair or hunters that worked (and CC’d) like a finely tuned machine. Druids don’t bother us as much they used to either, but a shaman and warlock was frustrating…couldn’t burn either one down without constant interrupts or timely heals…I guess I could go on and on…

As for battlegrounds…I guess it depends on the rest of the group, and their ability to focus on the task at hand. I hate Warsong Gulch with a passion, but even then I seem to do a little better on that BG…probably cause I will now run in packs that focus on either flag room. The last thing I want to do is end up fighting one on one in the middle of the map which always ends up with another enemy (or 4) showing up to give me the beatdown. At least I don’t grumble throughout the whole BG like I used too…it’s a lot more fun now just sticking together and working as a team rather than chasing down the closest target.

Your thoughts?

The new patch goes live today. As part of the process, the game is running some sort of optimizing program, reorganizing game files. It says that shuld take 15 minutes. Mine has been running about 25 minutes so far, and is only about 2/3 complete.

Saw reports on WoW Insider that after the optimization thing runs, the size of the patch download varies wildly…some people having to download 1.6 gb or more, with others needing much less. Hoping I’m one of the lucky ones with a small download, otherwise I will have to wait until after 1:00 AM to download it, due to download limits from my satellite isp…

Update-not than anyone cares–but looks like I have to download 1.3 gb. Sigh. No WoW for me today. :frowning:

I hate you for being a retri paladin, that’s my thought :smiley:

Seriously, I don’t think there’s a single top-tier comp for 2v2 or 3v3 that effectively utilizes enhancement shaman.

I’m having pretty good luck with sub rogue/enh sham/disc priest, but our priest isn’t the best pvper and with two non-plates as DPS/CC our strat kinda hinges on him blunting the initial rush.

Still, we do cap our points in about two hours every week, it just takes us going 8-6 or 8-7 to do it.

To actually address what you said:

At the point level you are now in the 3v3 ladder (where I have most experience), there’s a cliff edge somewhere between 1350 and 1550 rating wherein teams will suddenly seem to start utilizing chained CCs to keep one person locked up for a majority of the fight. And there are always going to be some people that are suboptimal for you–for me it’s healer priests and healer paladins–I can shred a resto druid or shammie, but priests and paladins can keep me away well enough to prevent me from killing them.

Regarding battlegrounds, 75% of it is staying with a group (or knowing when not to) and 25% is knowing where the groups go. The rest of it is on your teammates.

The optimizer took about 25 minutes for me, followed by only a 320 MB download. At the end of it all my Wow folder was reduced from 26 GB to 22 GB.

Couple of things:

  1. Wolkie just became “Cataclysmically Superior”

  2. What, if, during the TB bg, I did nothing but stand and defend the flag. Would that be enough? Or how about defending the road?

  3. Tonight, in the TB Peninsula, I was going after that crazy captain running around on the shipwreck, and I thought I targeted him first, but then another player came up behind me and started fighting him same time as me, but we both got the complete, even though we didn’t group, and then I noticed in the info box: “you’re share of the loot is” yada. How’d that happen?

  4. Back to the TB bg: How do those guys type so fast (telling what to defend) if they’re in the midst of a battle?

That’s more than a couple of questions, isn’t it?

Very well then: “Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, nice red uniforms and…”

I’ll come in again:

“Trouble at mill”

:slight_smile:

Thanks

Q

Big grats!

If you do nothing but stand and defend flags all TB, and/or move to a different flag when the pack moves to a different one, you are doing your job correctly IMHO.

Most Cataclysm quest objective monsters, especially the ones who have more HP than the average creature in the area, support this kind of ad-hoc grouping. As long as you get any damage in on the monster whatsover, you get the quest completion credit. This is largely to prevent people from griefing by monopolizing the monsters, I imagine, and to make forming ad-hoc groups to quickly finish a quest easy without having to do party invites etc.

Some of us would-be commander types will take any breather we can to shout orders, others will have a few macros made up and bound to little-used keys (I use the number pad for common battle commands, myself).

Quasi:

2: Don’t “defend the road”. That’s as useful as tits on a bull.
Defending flags, on the other hand, is very useful. Even if you end up dying, your presence there makes it harder (and take longer) for the other side to capture it.

  1. What Zeriel said. Problim, Tank, and all the named quest target mobs in that area work the same way.

So I’m still downloading the damn patch…started almost 2 hours ago, 553 mb left. Sigh. It’s raining here, which always messes with my satellite isp.

From the notes, it looks like tanks got a nerf in pvp–no more vengeance from player-caused damage.

Fire mages got a nerf–reduced damage to pyroblast and fireball, I think. My mage is arcane, with a 2nd spec of frost, so won’t matter to me.

Hunters get a buff–35% damage bonus with Aspect of the Hawk. I usually run Aspect of the Fox so I can use my longer shots (except aimed shot) while moving, but may need to experiment a bit.

Druids got a buff to their tier set, which I will likely never own.

Something happened to rogues. Hope it was a nerf. I hate rogues.

My subtlety rogue pvp partner said of it: “That’s for Combat Rogues, like they need another damn buff”. So I guess that’s that.

And that’s a terrific point. If you see someone soloing Problim, it won’t hurt anything* for you to help DPS. If you’re not planning on tanking, don’t draw threat (if necessary, “DPS… very… slowly”.) But as long as you get a good tap in, you’ll get credit.

For my own part, I always welcome someone jumping in on Tank the Shark or Problim if I’m soloing it on my hunter. My Beastmaster build is rather low DPS, so the fights get kind of boring, unless they get exciting in unpleasant and unexpected ways (i.e., ganked while killing Tank, or respawns of quest NPCs while downing Problim).

*won’t hurt anything practical, I mean. I suppose someone may get butthurt because they wanted to really solo something, but hurt feelings is what WoW is all about!:stuck_out_tongue:

My download was about 750 meg after 20 minutes of optimization, and took maybe 30 minutes. Sometimes high-tier cable internet is worth it.

This is tying the pork chop around the neck of the ugly kid. The DPS differential between Fox and Hawk is notable, but not usually worth it unless you’re completely on top of your game (i.e., willing to park immobile with Hawk while you can, but stance dancing between Hawk and Fox for mobility fights.) I usually completely forget Hawk except for purely stand-up fights, and there aren’t that many of those any more.

So upping the reward for Hawk is obviously intended to incentivize more active play. Too bad I’m lazy as hell.