New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

No even though I have been telling him for months to get one. He doesn’t use addons, not bought gold (he could be lying but I very much doubt he’d lie to me about this we know much worse things about each after knowing each other for 28 years) and not fallen for any email phishing scams. He’s not the most tech savvy mind you so maybe something he missed.

I didn’t get around to trying an instance last night, but I did get in on a Wintergrasp battle. Drove a catapult with gnomish delight, and we won the battle. Also juggled some gear around, and got my spell power up a bit…971 now. My arcane spec hits like a truck. Pull with Frostfirebolt, then Arcane Blast, Arcane Missiles, and a Fireblast if the mob is still standing. :smiley:

What is this Authenticator people are talking about?

This bodes well for the Burning Dogs’ future attempts at ICC. Are they going to reset the buff when Cata comes out?

Blizzard folks posted to their forums that there are apparently exploits involving non-updated Adobe Reader/Flash (? - Maybe Sun Java too?) apps - I assume it involves hidden scamware on WoW-related webpages, maybe from banner ads or something. There were stickied threads about it, I remember that much.

Random bitch: Hey guildie who pulled out your well-geared shaman to go to a hardcore raiding guild - WTF was with the tell to my husband asking why we hadn’t downed LK yet with a 30% buff? Screw you; that should be pretty obvious because, hey - we’re not a hardcore raiding guild! Duh! It’s a damned good thing I’m not a guild officer (at my insistence) or I’d have booted his remaining characters just for being a dick.

Well we weren’t using the Dungeon Finder, since we had an 80 with us who was too high to queue for MT. The hunter was just questing in IQD and responded to my invite in /General. So he might not have had a chance to switch.

An authenticator is a small device with a single button. You hook it up to your Battle.net account by entering the device’s serial number on the Battle.net website, and then whenever you go to log in, in addition to your username and password you also have to enter a 6-digit code from the authenticator, which appears when you press the button. Since Blizzard has the authenticator’s serial, and because the device is a physical item disconnected from the computer, they can verify that you are the one logging into your account, not a hacker who somehow got your password. If you have an iPhone or a Droid phone (I think), you can download an app onto it that will do the same thing, but I like the physical device better.

It is possible for your account to be hacked even when you’re using an authenticator, but frankly it’s more likely that your bank account will be broken into before your WoW account will.

Who the hell lets their kid on the internet these days *without *explaining to them how to avoid scams like that? You’re just *asking *to get your computer full of malware and your accounts hacked.

The buff is permanent, as far as anyone knows.

Rule #1: Patch and update that shit–from applications to your OS–as often as possible. I don’t even know how many viruses, worms, and trojans would be rendered immediately ineffective if everyone actually kept up with that shit–a huge percentage, certainly.

I’d strongly suggest it to the GM. It’s one thing to let his alts stay in the guild when his main leaves for greener pastures–that’s to be expected, if you have different goals for raiding. It’s another entirely to be a dick to the people who let you stick around on those alts.

I wouldn’t go that far. But it *is *very hard to hack an account with an Authenticator. Short of actually getting your hands on it, the only way to hack an Authenticator’d account (AFAIK) involves a man-in-the-middle attack: you submit your login information, including the current Authenticator token, to what appears to be a legit login screen. The fake login screen gives you an error and passes your information to the phisher, who then immediately uses it to log on and clear you out. However, IIRC they can’t do any of the *really *damaging stuff like changing your password or transferring your characters, because that requires new Authenticator codes.

SFG – that’s true. I know that when I was leveling as a nooblet, I found it useful for content that I thought was challenging at the time, but it isn’t necessary to do well.

As for Call Stabled Pet, you get it at 80. And it’s on a 5min cd.

Yeah, I dunno how old his son is, so maybe he’s a teenager and probably should know better. Anyway, he’s working on getting his crap back.

Well, my husband (who got the tell) does happen to be a guild officer so I highly suspect he’ll say something.

Eh, even teenagers can be stupid about that shit, if they’ve never been taught.

Yeah, getting hacked isn’t the end of the world–it’s just a massive inconvenience. I haven’t known anybody to lose anything permanently.

Fingers crossed that the jerk gets booted.

An (ex)guildie of mine claims that Blizzard has told him they will not be able to restore items to one of his characters, which happens to have been his best geared character before he was hacked. I don’t know the entire story, but apparently the account recovery and item restoration process has been nothing but frustration for him with little assistance from Blizzard on the matter. (Blizzard also suspended another of our guildies for 3 days for mailing gold to the hacked guildie’s account while it was compromised, even though the mailing guildie didn’t know about the hack at the time, and had a habit of mailing such gold every week).

I’ve heard that they will sometimes offer a gold and basic gear (maybe emblems too, I dunno) package in lieu of a restoration (which you should turn down and hold out for a full restore), but I highly doubt that they actually are unable to restore all of the stuff. They keep track of damned near everything that happens on those servers.

That being said, I can’t help but sympathize a little with anyone at Blizzard who gets annoyed at those customers who don’t protect their accounts, especially those that follow bogus links. I’m sure that’s got to eat up a huge amount of their time.

I’ve never heard of this happening, *unless *those items were obtained illegitimately (i.e., he payed for powerleveling services and/or for runs to get the items with extra-game currency).

Note that purchasing such services is an *excellent *way to get your account hacked.

Yes, Blizzard will sometimes offer a basic package of gear, gold, and emblems. For some players, that may be better than waiting for the full restoration; for anybody with a geared 80, though, you’re much better off turning that offer down and just waiting 'til they get around to fixing the account.

The problem comes when it’s phrased in such a way that it’s not clear to people that they can wait for the full restore.

Honestly, I don’t know *why *Blizz has been so fucking understaffed for the past… well, I can’t remember the last time I opened an in-game ticket and didn’t have to wait days for any response at all. Probably not since around the beginning of Wrath.

Something I posted on the official forums:


So I’ve got myself a low-level human mage on a roleplaying server, and I’m interested in joining a roleplaying guild. It so happens I was twice offered guild membership today, but alas, I was forced to decline both invitations. If you, too, would like me to decline your guild membership offer, I would encourage you to adhere to a few simple techniques:

  1. Present your invitation as you run past me just as I’m arriving at a flight point, and race off into the distance while I stop to look around in search of whoever tossed the invitation in my face. Don’t bother to stop and tell me about your guild, and ask if I’d be interested.

  2. Pay no attention to simple English language conventions when choosing your guild name, such as correctly spelled and capitalized words. While some players might be proud to display a tag like "<the blody worriars> below their character’s name, I am not one of them.

  3. Last but not least, present your guild charter signature request while I am going through the mailbox, posting auctions, or consulting with my banker.
    Follow these simple rules, and I will cheerfully respond with the rejection you so clearly crave.


Ooo. I hate that with the fire of a thousand suns. I guilded all my characters, including my bank toon into a private guild which only my husband and I have newbs in, partially to avoid crap like that.

From what I’ve read, it’s because you have to move to Irvine, CA or one of their other locations, even for jobs like GM that could probably be done just as easily by telecommuting. I’d love to work for Blizzard, but unless they’re paying for the move, I just don’t have the resources to pack up everything and get myself to, and set up in, California. Assuming I’d actually want to live in California.

I got into a 10man ICC raid last night (epically failed…we were a herd of cats) but I was doing 8k dps on the trash. I think we should start hitting it the following week (in August). Seems that we have the numbers and gear for it, plus the upgrades would be considerable even with knocking off Marrowgar. The frost emblems would come more quickly and the AV rep for the rings alone is worth the trip. Then we could mop up the other dungeons later.

Actually, popping a guild charter in my face to sign without any prior conversation (such as “Would you sign my guild charter, please?” or even “I’ll pay you 10g to sign my guild charter!”) regardless of what I’m doing is an excellent way to guarantee my non-signatorial relationship with your potential future guild.

BTW, could someone please wowhead something for me? Where is the frozen orb vendor? (I need to buy a buncha lotuses for flask production purposes).

I’m down with that. And I just realized that Marrowgar-10 even drops a trinket that would still be an upgrade for me, so even better.