What class are you again? My mage and DK have both gotten the Baron run down to a consistent 6 minutes. I’m sure you can too. One useful trick somebody told me awhile back is to kill all but one of the Aboms in the Slaughterhouse, then position yourself right in front of the door, kill the last Abom there, then run in as the door opens and kill Rammstein inside. The Black Guard will spawn immediately afterward, but if you’re a bit hard to hurt or you’re squishy and have a good AoE, you can kill them fast. That will save you some time.
Aside from that, it’s a combination of getting yourself a good route and being simultaneously bold and cautious. There have been several times when I was sure something was going to aggro on me, but I ran on by and hoped, and it didn’t. The only mobs you really need to worry about unless you’re very squishy are the Crypt Crawlers, since they do a nasty silence. Of course, if you’re a class that doesn’t care about being silenced, then you’re set.
Oh. I play Horde I briefly rolled an Alliance alt DK and played for about an hour before I was completely turned off by what I was reading in the chat channels. The general chat can be pretty horrendous regardless of faction, but the Alliance chat on Moon Guard took it to a whole new level of repugnance.
re: combat log breaking – yes, I will owe you muffins, too, if that works. My combat log is constantly Not Showing Me Why I Just Died, but rather Stops Midway Through Some Random Fight I Had 10 Minutes Ago.
Yup, that’s the strategy I use. The route you take to clear the crypts is also important (i.e., not ducking through an alley where you’ll get trapped and have to kill things to get out). If you leave enough room in your bags that you can un-equip anything with durability and suicide out when you’re done, that also speeds things up considerably. (Corpse-running to the rear entrance is faster than doing a live run back to it, considering that you’d have to dodge all the same pats and mobs again.)
Yeah that’s what happened, it’s happened to me before. I just thought it was a little funny that I never noticed it until several attempts later, if I was healing I would have noticed right away.
So I decided to hop on my hunter and complete the Wrathgate questlne, I’m flying out to Wyrmrest and accidentally aggro one of those Frost Wyrms and he knocks me off my Flying Machine. No problem says I, I’ll just hit my handy parachute just above the ground and Feign Death when I land. So I click the icon for my cape/parachute…
Still falling… click it again…
Falling… SPLAT!
Oh…
See I had gotten a new cloak a few days before and forgot to put my Flexweave Underlay on it. I love being an engineer.
Plus my queue popped right as I released, managed to get to my body before the timer ran out.
It’s funny what you do and don’t notice. It usually takes me a while to realize mine is missing, even though it should be immediately apparent from the lack of scrolling combat text. But when, say, I’m focused on stacking Sunders and maintaining other buffs and debuffs and trusting my custom alerts to holler at me when I need to pay attention… :o
It won’t let you accept while you’re dead? I thought you could accept, but just not port in until you rezzed.
Actually that’s not really a factor, at least for me. My six-minute runs on my DK have all been going through that alleyway and killing the bugs. My mage can blink and avoid it. You can probably avoid it with rocket boots too, but I keep forgetting to have the DK equip them. It hasn’t made a difference.
If you’re on a mage there’s also one spot where it’s really good to use Invisibility–after you kill the cold guy (I forget his name) assuming that you’ve killed all the other sub-bosses and the Slaughterhouse is available, just pop Invis and run from there to the little archway right before you get to the aboms. As long as you avoid the ghoul packs (they can see you) and run right down the middle, you have exactly enough time to make it safely.
Ret paladin. Okay, I misremembered my time - it’s actually "less than 20 minutes
But 6 minutes? That would seem to involve just running straight through every mob in the place… ? I’m trying to avoid all unnecessary combat. I’ve speeded things up a bit once I get to the abominations, by gathering up 4-5 at a time and taking them down in groups, instead of one at a time.
I’ll try that - I’ve been getting annoyed at killing Ramstein and then waiting and waiting and waiting for the Black Guard to come out.
Ooh, I’ll have to try that, too. I just did a big bank cleanout so that I could free up bag space. One of the reasons I set my hearth to Light’s Hope was that I could finish a run, hearth back, and then ride back to the instance, instead of having to work my way all the way past all those mobs back to the entrance and then reentering.
You can accept while you’re dead, I just didn’t want to and I was a few steps from my body anyways.
After repairing I random queued and got into H VH… then remembered I hadn’t grabbed the quest. I’m just awesome today. Now watch me fall off the Lootship tonight in ICC.
On both my prot pally and shadow priest, I’ve gotten the runs down to about 6-7 minutes. It’s all about figuring out a route you can run where you don’t aggro unnecessary trash on the way in, knowing which pats you need to wait to pass, etc. I also hated waiting for the Black Guard to come out – once in a while it would glitch and they wouldn’t come out at all (or, rather, I’d wait 3 minutes and get tired of waiting and just reset the instance).
You come in the back door and skulk around the edges. You only attack the three bosses you need to kill to open the Slaughterhouse, then clear that out, then everything inside the final crypt down to the Baron.
The speediest runs happen when you don’t aggro anything, and when you don’t stop to loot anything you do kill.
Personally, I pull the entire Slaughterhouse (minus one abom) and just AOE it down. You might want to try taking on larger packs–that will speed things up. Since you’re in Plate, it might be doable. And pulling that last one to the door and then running through it as soon as it opens is a huuuuuuuge time-saver.
Ugh, that’s a looooooooong run. You’re much better off suiciding and coming back through the back door. (But be sure you DON’T zone in the front–the door will lock behind you and you’ll have to run to the back entrance anyway to exit and reset.
Gargoyles! Damned dirty gargoyles! I can avoid everything else, but those gargoyles seen to have totally random paths, so you’ve got plenty of space to run between a couple mobs without aggroing either, but then a gargoyle comes swooping in out of nowhere, spots you, and alerts every other mob in a 100-yard radius :mad:
Does that include the non-elite mobs inside those buildings? I notice that the Baron doesn’t holler until you’ve killed those, but if I can get away with just killing the bosses at the doors, that would be awesome.
I have come up with a trick, though, for when I aggro something right before one of those bosses - I just ignore those mobs and kill the boss, open the door, then run inside to force those other mobs to come in after me. That way I can kill them without risking aggroing everything else outside (or attracting more damned dirty gargoyles).
Just did this - what with the GY clear over on the other side of the front door, I’m not sure ghost-running to the back door from there is much faster than riding with my Crusader Aura on from Light’s Hope, but I still need to experiment to find the shortest route.
Yah, I knew about that. I just wish that tunnel at the back of the area where the Baron is actually led somewhere. There’s a big portcullis with a green instance portal behind it - I wonder where that was supposed to go?
IIRC, you kill the boss to unlock the necropolis, then kill the cultists inside to deactivate it. You should be able to gather all of them up and burn them down in one or two hits, though.
Make sure you’re cutting across the lake or along the wall of the city and such. It’s really a pretty fast run to the back door from the GY.
Well that’s weird. I just checked my main’s stats, and it appears I’ve only killed Rivendare 10 times. And five of those kills happened yesterday and today, so in all the time before the last couple days, I only killed him five times? I was sure I’d run through there more times than that.
Well here’s something I hope they change up in Cataclysm: crafting recipes that depend on mats crafted by other crafting professions. My night elf hunter/leatherworker is at that annoying stretch of leatherworking where it seems every pattern that will level him up calls for Iron Buckles, which only come from Blacksmithing. And there are none on the AH. Odd raw mats are one thing; requiring there be a Blacksmith who is at that precise point in leveling up his profession and is crafting that particular item and is posting them on the AH is a bit too much.
So I guess I’m crafting more Dusky Bracers, as if the AH isn’t already overflowing with those. Everything other orange recipe I have calls for either Iron Buckles or Cured Heavy Hides, and those hides are so random.
Of course, crafting five more Dusky Bracers to get me to 200/225 is going to take 80 pieces of Heavy Leather, which is going for a minimum of 45g/stack … Sigh. Looks like I’m going on a killing/skinning spree. Meanwhile, I have stacks and stacks of Thick Leather that I can’t even use until I get to 200.
Annoying night for me. I can’t beat the $#%@! Argent Valiant in the jousting thing. He always nails me with shield break, and mine won’t cast half the time, claiming he’s out of range. OF course, if he actually was out of range, he wouldn’t be hitting me.
Also can’t kill the guy in Voldrune (something like that). It’s the quest where you steal the dragon to use against his elite master, standing on the balcony of his tower. No matter I do, he always kills my dragon, and usually kills me while I’m falling.
I could blow off the dragon guy, and probably will, but the Argent Valiant jousting thing is a real roadblock for me. I can’t do anything else in the quest line without getting past this stupid thing.
Really? Then you have to level a toon on there, not just transfer your main. Nothing like finding out just how easy it is to get ganked in Stranglethorn Vale while questing as a lower level. Oddly, it’s both frustrating and rewarding (once you win a few).
I made Gaurdian Gloves to get to 200 and bought Heavy Hide from the AH, took me a few days of checking but got enough and all at about 1g per item so quite reasonable. How much is Medium Leather going for? I found it cheaper to buy Medium Leather to turn into Heavy Leather on my server.
I think wow is telling me to change my main. My 75 warlock has picked up in the last week all the Northrend cooking recipe drops, none of which have ever dropped for my pally, and last night I got the journal for the Find Fish ability while fishing in Terrokar Forest, something again my pally lacks even though his fishing skill is 430-ish now.
How soon do you all think we’ll be able to switch our high level toons to Worgens or Goblins once Cata hits?
I did a brief guide to jousting in the old thread - search for “jousting” in there and you’ll find a fair amount of advice (and probably a lot of irrelevancies). My ultra-quick ultra-easy guide:
Just spam all four buttons (1 through 4) over and over again while constantly backing away from your target. You’ll have to make sure and get yourself pointing towards him again after you charge; other than that, it’s completely brainless and it works.
I briefly rolled an Alliance alt DK and played for about an hour before I was completely turned off by what I was reading in the chat channels. The general chat can be pretty horrendous regardless of faction, but the Alliance chat on Moon Guard took it to a whole new level of repugnance.
