It’s not a huge scale beat down, but Obama has a 13% lead with 21% of precincts reporting and this was a state that he was behind in not that long ago. I think that puts a little more oomph into the win.
Obama’s winning by double digits in a state where he was expected to win by just a few points and might possibly lose. I think that is an indication that going negative backfired on Hillary.
MSN Calls it for Obama at 10:09 p.m. eastern!
OH YEAH!! The peoples speek and they don’t want to hear Clinton!
Well, 46 percent of the WI Dem voters do. Are they people?
The majority has spoken.
Not by any rational definition, no.
Some of you are doing the Republicans’ work for them.
I’ve got nothing against HRC as a person. I think she’s played the best hand she knew how. I think she’s made some silly mistakes and some errors in judgement, but I don’t hate her and do not wish to slander her. But she’s pulling a lot of low lying crap in this election and more and more people are seeing it and choosing to vote for Obama instead. Plain and simple.
How do you figure?
Since I am a Republican, that would logically follow.
Go, Barack!
PLEASE! Who’s been doing the Republicans’ work for them for weeks now?
And she’s been doing a mighty shitty job of it, too, I might add.
At least they beat us with these tactics!!
Isn’t it clear? By sowing division, and on a petty and useless basis.
Unless, that is, you don’t *want * Clinton’s supporters voting for Obama in November. Maybe, for you, that’s the case.
How about you, phlosphr? What was *your * thinking behind that remark?
I think when Hillary was being all nicey nice to Obama her rating were higher. Since taking a negative spin on just about everything he’s done in the past several weeks she’s shooting the other foot, the first foot was shot by her husband. Problem is they bat for the same damn team. Perfect example of negatives backfiring is the Good Morning America Interview with Gov. Patrick. Diane Sawyer [most likely a heavy Clinton Supporter] baited the governor about plagiarism and he swung back with a one-two punch to the Clinton Camp. And it worked on national TV. Clinton looked like an ass for even mentioning it.
Look Clinton’s Demographic, the one where she is supposed to do the best in - women over 45 and the blue collar folks are all turning tide to some degree, and in some states more than others. Ohio is just like Wisconsin and the vote there will be much like the one we saw tonight.
So do I think Hillary is behaving like a Republican? No not really, I think she’s behaving like someone who really wanted something bad and is watching it slip from her fingers. Now that it is becoming a reality that she may in fact lose the whole shebang she’s pulling all the negatives on Obama that the Republicans will try when he is the nominee. They won’t have jack on Obama after Hillary get’s through…and I really hope that’s not what she is trying for here.
What are they going to do? Vote for McCain because Obama supporters were pissed when Hillary and her supporters lied and called them names? Go ahead and vote for McCain then. I don’t really want you on my side.
I have to say I’m with ElvisL1ves on one point: it’s time to ratchet back the anti-Hillary rhetoric a notch or three. I don’t like some of the things she’s done (or threatened to do) in this campaign, but that doesn’t make her evil; it just makes her a fierce competitor who doesn’t like to lose.
Let’s not lose sight of the fact that we’re all on the same team, and that what we’re doing here is chosing a team captain.
The people I suggested here are “doing the Republicans’ work” aren’t the Clinton campaign.
Who do you and do you *not * include in this “*the * people” entity who you say don’t want her? That’s what I asked, sorry for any lack of clarity.
You do seem to be taking a different tone than just a few weeks ago, you know. We had a nice conversation back then that you might remember.
Thanks, spoke-.
cricetus, thanks too, but for proving a point. Sometimes that’s done negatively.
If you are talking to me, I agree we had a great conversation a few weeks ago…and look up thread a few posts you’ll see, I don’t hate HRC. I explained it up there.
As for “the people” - Pundits, news anchors, bloggers, the people conveying the exit polling and showing the demographics - who is voting for who - they are showing Some of Hillary’s demographic i.e. people, choosing to vote for Obama and not HRC. Polling is showing a paradigm change, it’s slow, it’s not huge, but it’s there.
Happy to help. I mean it, though. I don’t think bitter people are part of the solution. I think they are welcome in the McCain camp, who seems to be running on the platform of bitterness.
[Fonz]Aaaaay.[/Fonz] 17% with 85% reporting. BobLibDem you worry too much.
Hawaii shortly. Predictions, oh, doper prognosticators? …and what’s this Washington thing all about? Obama’s ahead 50% to 47% for Hillary, but what the heck is it?