Maybe I harp on things that aren’t as important as I think they are. He seems like a cancer that’s not worth what he brings at this point in his career. He won’t put in extra work to get on the same page as his receivers. He won’t work with the OC to change strategies when things aren’t working. For instance he refuses to use motion. He publicly points fingers at his teammates. Being on Pat MacAfee is more important than his job. He’s a giant douche.
I don’t think you do. I am 100% in agreement. If I’d learned he was being signed to my team I would be horrified. He is a franchise-killer at this point.
I agree.
Go get him, Steelers! 
Well if it’s one thing Giants fans have become accustomed to, it’s turnovers.
Winston-Nabors is going to be fun to watch. As a Giants fan, seeing them lose 38-31 will be a nice change from them losing 24-7.
Right now, I’m hoping that they take Travis Hunter or Jacob Carter at #3. Unless somehow Cam Ward is still available.
Agreed. Last season they were worse than bad. They were boring.
I don’t see that happening. Ward will be first. Abdul Carter will probably go second. If the Giants were confident about their QB Hunter would be the obvious pick. Unless they believe Sanders will be a bust they have to take him. There are no guarantees they will get close to a top QB in the next draft.
One of the scenarios I’ve seen floated is that they trade up into the late 1st round and draft Jaxson Dart. All of this, of course, depends on how Schoen and Daboll feel about Sanders. If they absolutely love him, then draft him. I just don’t want them to take a QB because they feel the need to take one. That’s how you end up with Daniel Jones and all of the other highly drafted, failed QB’s.
From what I’ve read the Giants have done extensive in person scouting of Sanders. Whatever decision they make won’t be from lack of information. I didn’t watch a minute of Dart playing so I can’t form an opinion about him.
No way Dart is still available late in the first round. Although he’s nowhere near ready to be a starting NFL QB, some QB desperate team will fall in love with him and draft him in the top 15.
And taking a developmental QB that you like is exactly how the Giants ended up with Daniel Jones.
I was pretty sure the Giants were going to stupid their way into signing Rodgers. Jameis Winston? Bullet dodged!
Had they taken Daniel Jones in the 2nd round that would have been fine. It was taking him at #6 overall that was dumb.
You said: “If they absolutely love him, then draft him.” That’s exactly the kind of thinking that leads to the Giants picking Daniel Jones with the #6 pick in the draft. A team decides they love a QB and there is no price too high to get him.
That was Gettleman. He was wrong and now he’s gone. If a GM and HC think a guy is great (especially a QB) they have to draft him if they can. If they’re wrong or are unable to develop the player, then get rid of them.
Some mock drafts have the Jets taking Dart at 7. I don’t hate the idea. Fields is only on a 2 year contract and a short leash. It’s not a bad idea to have his replacement on the team. I doubt that’s how it will go. I think they will take Will Campbell to help fix the line.
I think those words are synonyms.
This got me thinking a little. Every so often we have a draft where 2 dynamics intersect. The QB class is mid and the number of QB needy teams ebbs.
We had the Pickett year recently in '22 with only one taken. In 2015 we had the Winston/Mariotta picks at 1 and 2, and then none the remainder of the draft. In '13 it was another 1 QB year with EJ Manuel and in '10 it was Sam Bradford at 1 and Tebow at 26, and to be honest, that Tebow pick shouldn’t count.
Is this year another one of those years?
While I think it’s a pretty safe bet that Cam Ward gets drafted in the top 5, I think there’s a really solid chance that both Sanders and Dart slide at least into the 20s, if not out of the first round all together. The contract/salary dynamics really incentivize teams to grab a developmental QB in the last first, so teams trading back into the 1st round could happen.
Let’s look at the QB needy teams.
- Titans
- Browns
- Giants
- Raiders (maybe)
- Jets (maybe)
- Saints (maybe)
- Dolphins (slight maybe)
- Seahawks (slight maybe)
- Buccaneers (slight maybe)
- Steelers
- Rams (maybe)
I was pretty generous with those maybes, including teams with clear starters but guys who might be either old or on shorter placeholder deals. I’m skeptical that any of those “maybes”, especially those trying to compete right now, are going to burn a 1st on a developmental QB.
If we project Ward to one of the top 3 teams, it wouldn’t be surprising if the other 2 pass on QB. Both Sanders and Dart have too many questions to go that high. If we assume they slip, when’s the next team likely to roll the dice?
Raiders and Jets are probably the best chance, but both brought in new QBs and this is still pretty high for an iffy QB. The Saints could, but they’d have to like these guys a lot better than Rattler to spend the pick.
After that we’re looking at a bunch of competitive teams. Sure, the Dolphins might want Tua insurance, ditto the Seahawks and Bucs, but they will want immediate production out of a 1st rounder if they think they are playoff teams. The Steelers are obviously a big candidate, but if they sign Rodgers, will they want to create drama by adding a rookie? And the Steelers aren’t typically a team that reaches for QBs. The Rams will need to move on from Stafford eventually, but he just got a new deal.
So, if both Sanders and Dart slip out of the top 10, the most likely scenario where they get picked IMO is probably one of those top 10 teams trading back up into the late first. But if they all were lukewarm enough to pass once, are they really going to move mountains to ensure they get them later? Or do they just stand pat and hope they slide to the top of the second?
You could be right. The Pickett year came the year after 5 QBs were drafted in the top 15, and last year had 6 QBs in the top 12. So there are a lot more teams that have their young QBs already drafted early.
But I do think Sanders and Dart are much better prospects than Pickett was, with a big dropoff after Dart. And the NFL never tires of over-drafting the Wentzs, Trubiskys, and Zach Wilson’s of the world.
That said, the Raiders have a well-established history of falling in love with guys, especially ones with really impressive combine numbers, and drafting them way too early.
Who are these players “drafted way too early?” Looking back 30 years, taking JaMarcus Russell out of the mix (he was the best quarterback in a quarterback-poor draft, no one could have predicted his spectacular flameout, the Raiders needed a quarterback, and if they didn’t take him first overall, he would have gone high in the first round anyway), we are left with:
Aiden O’Connell (4th round)
Derek Carr (2nd round, and not a bad QB, just not a great QB)
Terrelle Pryor (3rd round of the supplemental draft, so not even Mr. Irrelevant level)
Andrew Walter (3rd round)
Marques Tuiasosopo (2nd round)
Billy Joe Hobert (3rd round)
Not a cavalcade of more than mediocrity, but “drafted way too early”?
There’s a zero percent chance of Seattle drafting a QB in the first round. They have a relatively young QB starter on a multi-year deal and desperately need O-line improvement.
If they draft a QB it won’t be until a pretty late round and it would be a project guy.
They haven’t drafted a QB in the first round for over 30 years. There is no reason this draft would cause them to deviate. Their first pick isn’t until #18, this is a weak class for QBs, and they have no need for one. Darnold is their guy, at least for a couple years.