Shawn Rogers is the best interior defensive lineman in the league…when he’s up for it. He destroys the run, completely blows up the pocket, commands a double team at all times, and is surprisingly mobile. If you can get consistency out of him, you’ll be VERY happy. I didn’t want to trade him because I thought we’d get 80 cents on the dollar for him, but I’m fine with this. Bodden’s a solid corner, but I’d still like 2 more in the draft.
Apparently Leigh Bodden = 5th rounder?
Yep, I don’t get it. Cinci was offering a third and fifth and they took it. So offered a third and Bodden. WTF?
I wouldn’t trade Bodden straight up for him. I might trade a third rounder. But both together? Crazy.
We had a late round corner, Brandon McDonald, come on strong last year but it’s hard to imagine they plan on he and Wright being the starting corners. Maybe getting another corner is in the works, I don’t know.
But unless Bodden has some condition which suggests he’ll never be healthy again like he was in '05, I don’t like this deal at all. His value is way higher than a 5th rounder.
I’m torn about the Samuels signing. On one hand, Samuels played an integral part in the Patriots games from the Eagles win on up to the Super Bowl. It just seemed like he always made a big play right when the Patriots needed one, and came within inches of closing out the Super Bowl for the Patriots too. He’s a playmaker. Definitely a huge upgrade for a team that had the league’s fewest takeaways last year. On the other hand, it’s a lot of money for a corner when the team already has one All Pro corner and another All Pro caliber corner. Is the upgrade that significant?
And why aren’t the Eagles doing SOMETHING about their receiver corps? It’s no fluke that McNabb’s best season was with a stellar wideout. Why not roll the dice with Javon Walker (a good YAC guy, exactly what TO was) on a discount? Are the Eagles really going to go into another season with a couple of #2 WRs starting for them? Why not just admit you’re sabotaging McNabb and trade him now while he still has some value?
Couldn’t agree with you more, E Squared. I think McNabb needs a solid number one, even if it’s just to grade his talents with.
Yep, so the trade was legit and official now.
Having had time to think about it, I just really hate “good when motivated guys.”
I want to walk up to them and say “OH GEE LIVING OUT THE DREAM OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHILE GETTING PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR IT ISN’T ENOUGH TO MOTIVATE YOU YOU FAT FUCK? I STAB YOU!!!”
But Phil has really dramatically revamped our lines in 2 years. We went from having one of the worst offensive lines in the league to one of the best over one offseason. Now we’re taking one of the worst defensive lines and the league and… turning it into one of the best? I hope. LDE Corey Smith, NT Shaun Rogers, RDE Robaire Smith sounds dominant.
Crennel does seem to be pretty good at getting guys to buy into the whole team spirit thing, so maybe a change of scenery for Rogers (I could see why being in Detroit might give you more motivational problems than you might otherwise have I guess) will help.
He already *had * a solid #1 to grade his talents with, and IMHO the resulting grade was “pretty damn good”…
His ceiling is absolutely incredible. I’m really not kidding when I say that he’s the best interior lineman in the NFL. He’s also amazing at blocking kicks.
He will blow the best players off the field for a half. Then come out and take a 30 minute snooze.
The Browns also signed Donte Stallworth…where in the fuck are they getting all this money?
IN a matter of days, the Brownies have signed D Anderson to a big contract with guaranteed money, signed Stallworth to a 5mil a year contract with 10mil in guaranteed money, they just assumed Rogers’ fat (no pun) contract at around 5 mil per, signed Williamson (Packers DT) to a big contract…where is all this loot coming from?
It sounds to me like Savage is taking a page out of the Dan Snyder playbook and hoping it works…it could, but it could also be a disaster.
Meanwhile, back in Bengalville, we still have failed to sign an impact player in FA since the Sapp deal was reneged upon. Fuckity fuck.
Did he play better when you guys were on your way to 6-2? Maybe a team on the upswing with a winning spirit will motivate him. He’s more likely to have that here than he’s had over his career over there…
Browns signed Donte Stallworth. They’re being quite aggressive. Anyone have any opinions on Donte? He was in the most prolific passing offense of all time and couldn’t put up good numbers, but was that because Moss/Welker were so good, or Stallworth was bad, or both maybe?
I know he’s had nagging injury issues for a while.
He might be a good fit. Joe Jurevicious is one of those route/hands possession guys you love to throw to on 3rd and 7, but he’s not a great #2. He could be a great #3, which is why I hope Stallworth doesn’t suck. #2/#3 WR was the the biggest hole on offense for the Browns (that, and the giant black hole of suck that happened when Tim Carter was on the field), and hopefully this solves that.
He’s always been extremely inconsistent. When he was with the Saints he’d be totally MIA for three quarters and then catch a 60-yard touchdown pass out of nowhere… then disappear again.
Never caught more than 70 passes in a season, and only caught more than 50 twice… and never had a 1,000 yard season.
Having drafted him for my fantasy team, I can tell you that Wes Welker’s production steadly declined from Week 1 to Week 5… then he exploded in Week 6. Stallworth, on the other hand, just sort of hung around all season. Had one big game against Dallas, and that was pretty much it.
For the amount of money the Browns paid Donte, he’d better show up. I see it as a move to replace Jurevicious in the offense alongside Braylon.
I am impressed that the Browns are making so many moves, but the question is whether or not it will pan out. The AFC North is entirely up in the air next year IMO, with the exception of the Ratbirds. I don’t see them vastly improving.
You’ve got the Steelers, whom are perenially decent and could win the division any given year…
The Browns, who suddenly seem to be improving but failed to miss the playoffs last year (you’re welcome!)
And the Bengals, whom are an enigma, and I’m a fan. They could explode or tank…it all depends on Palmer and the oline staying healthy, and whether or not their new D-Coordinator manages to cobble together a mediocre or better defense.
Agreed – I’ll miss them both (Mitchell more than Wilson), but after last season I’m fully prepared to chug the Jerry Reese Kool-Aid. Hopefully he’ll work that same magic and produce some worthwhile replacements.
The Browns are the only team who clearly seem to be going up. They went 10-6 on the strength of their offense alone and this year they may have a legitimate defense too.
Pittsburgh is the only other team in real contention, and they were on a sharp decline at the end of the year. They’re going to lose Faneca on an already crappy O-line (although losing Faneca may actually improve their pass blocking).
If by “enigma” you mean “team that had one good year in the last 20 or so”, sure. You’ll probably get third place in the division though thanks to the ineptitude and failure of the rats, which I’m thoroughly enjoying.
Well, the 49ers have signed three free agent players, an old wide receiver, a decent (?) pass rusher, and a kick return specialist. However, the biggest and best news is that Candlestick Park is once again officially Candlestick Park and will stay that way.
Stallworth is probably going to be used much the same sort of way for us that he was used for the Pats: a deep threat trotted on the field who occasionally makes a big play. Winslow is a legit #2 option, and I don’t think Chud is going to move the offense away from him, but Stallworth gives us a better package on deep passing downs.
The Eagles are likely to either deal Shepperd or else move Sheldon Brown to safety.
I prefer the former, and I agree with getting Walker. If they’re going to try to win now, then they need to do that and take some chances.
By the way, ProFootballTalk | PFT: News, Rumors, Videos, Highlights, Results & More - NBC Sports - NBC Sports has been awesome for NFL news. Florio routinely has rumor of signings before they happen.
well, we’ll see…we have a LOT of talent on offense, in fact I’d argue more than you, but…without a defense it won’t matter. I still think Anderson is WAY overrated.
Oh yeah, and the same logic applies to the Browns, FWIW. Ever even been to a Super Bowl? No? OK.
If you want to get all technical and stuff. We are ONE game away from sweeping you FOUR years in a ROW. We are not as bad as you may believe.