NFL: The Timmy T Poll

Bad news, NFL fan — after an investigation found your favorite team in violation of an obscure rule mandating a minimum number of alliteratively-named white guys with douchey hair, Roger Goodell has decreed that one of their 2012 roster spots will be taken up by none other than Tim T. himself. The good news is that he’ll give you, a randomly-selected fan, a bit of choice in your team’s fate.

You see, lucky guy or gal that you are, you get to decide whether your team fills their deficit with holy-rolling [del]full[/del] quarterback Tim Tebow, or Mr. Irrelevant 2010 himself, wideout Tim Toone.

Along with the player you choose, you’ll also inherit their contract. For Tebow, that’s five years at $9.75 million, $8.7 million guaranteed, with $23.25 million available through incentives. Toone is on the Broncos’ practice squad at $465,000, but since he’ll be on your active roster, you’ll have to pay him the two-year minimum of $540k.

Each has their pros and cons — Tebow undoubtedly has his uses, especially in the hands of a talented coach/OC, but he hits your salary cap a lot harder. And, of course, there’s the big one: Tebowmania. It’s guaranteed to sell jerseys and fill seats, but do you really want that drama hanging over your team all season? Taking Toone, on the other hand, is more or less just burning a roster spot while you ride out the year, but he comes a lot cheaper, and, hey, he might have some upside. Stranger things have happened.

So, those are the rules. What say you?
As a Charger fan, I’m taking Toone. The Bolts have no needs at QB — say what you want about Whitehurst, but A) he knows the system and B) he can actually throw. In all honesty, though, that’s my last concern; I have no doubt that Norv could find something interesting to do with an athlete of Tebow’s caliber. No, if you want the real reason I want nothing to do with him, just ask John Elway and every other poor guy in Denver who had to stare at that fucking billboard every day.

First INT of the season, the hammer-of-God-botherers will fall, and it (and every second of media coverage) won’t stop pounding at the whole team’s sanity until the Tebowites get what they want. And if you want to point out that Philip Rivers isn’t Kyle Orton, I’d remind you that that’s an argument based on reason, which won’t get you anywhere with that crowd. Add to that the fact that after an uncharacteristically aggressive free agency, the Chargers’ remaining cap room would barely accommodate Tebow anyway, and one WR slot and $540k seems like a small price to pay indeed. Hell, A.J. Smith ended up pulling receivers out of the parking lot in 2010; Toone has to be better than at least some of them.

I’m near Detroit. They’re on the upswing, and have a good quarterback. If we had to take Tebow, I don’t think there would be Tebow-mania. (At least, not unless Stafford started having trouble. But then it wouldn’t matter who the backup was, he’d be a fan favorite.)

So the Lions would take Toone. Although thinking about it …

Between Matt Millen, Marty Morningweigh (that ain’t spelled right, but whatever), Mike Martz, “Mooch” Mariucci, we have had our fucking share of alliteratively named white guys.

We file a protest.

As a Ravens Fan. I’d take Tebow just to see what would happen with the combination of a Ray Lewis and a TimmyT inspired team.

And As awesome as Flacco is… if it’s in the Red Zone, and we need a miracle? I’d consider it.
At the least, it’d get people to hopefully stop talking about the murderers and convicts on our Team and sell some Tickets. But that contract is a rough pill to swallow.

But the Ravens might be a well suited team for TimmyT’s dependence on the D to keep him alive in the game.

I think Tim Tebow is a very, very bad passer and a not much better quarterback. He also brings too much baggage with him.

But at the very least, he can contribute to the team and have a positive impact. And he’ll help sell tickets, jerseys and increase the bottom line. That is far and away more than Toone has ever done. Hell, I have as many catches for as many yards in the NFL as Tim Toone does.

I don’t like Tebow, but he’s better than nothing. And I think it’s nothing more than Tebow hate to want nothing more than than you want what he can do for you.

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:wiping eyes:

Thanks, I need that.

Depends on what you mean by “Tebow hate”. Personally, I don’t hate the man at all; I hate the insanity his existence apparently inspires among a big and vocal enough minority to be a pain the ass for any team. I don’t blame Tebow for that — I never saw where he encouraged lunatics to cry for Orton’s head on a daily basis — but the lunatics cried nonetheless, from far and wide, and they’re not going to go away anytime soon. You can call that Tebow hate; I’d call it drama avoidance. For a good enough player, you could deal with the hullabaloo, but Tebow ain’t it.

Also, remember that you have to pay him. Per the latest info I can find, the Pack only have $3.4 mil left in cap space this year; Teebs would eat $3 mil of that. You’ll have to make room for any draftees.

You’re welcome. I wondered how long it’d take while writing that sentence out. Flacco… vs. Tebow, not a huge trade-off in quality. but still. Loyalties. :stuck_out_tongue:

I think decisions about football should be made about … football. Tebowmania is annoying as hell, but grownups should act like grownups.

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Also, remember that you have to pay him. Per the latest info I can find, the Pack only have $3.4 mil left in cap space this year; Teebs would eat $3 mil of that. You’ll have to make room for any draftees.
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The Packers cleared 9 miilion in space this week by cutting Chad Clifton and Nick Collins. Tebow is 3 million this year 2 next and less than 1 the year after. I don’t want Tebow, but I want him more than Tim Toone.

I only acknowledge ONE Timmy T, and he’s don’t play no sissy football game.

The singer of “One More Try”?

Look, there’s a reason why Toone is “Mr. Irrelevant.” He may be cheap, but the money would be better spent on someone better.

Tebow has more talent. Will it be worth it? Who knows? But you don’t assess a player on his price tag; you choose the player who gives you the best chance to win football games. Tebow has already won more than Toone ever will.

I’d agree that Tebow is probably the right choice for a team where he’d be an improvement over talent they already have. I was hoping for people to make cases for why Tebow would or wouldn’t be an asset for their team, rather than “anyone who wouldn’t do the same thing I would in all situations is an idiot”. (On that count, I may have temporarily forgotten I was dealing with football fans. ;))

Nobody in their right mind thinks that Toone is a valuable player or that Tebow is worthless. That doesn’t mean that no team would be better off burning a roster spot than losing millions in cap room on a player they have no use for beyond the occasional gimmick. What would the Packers (or Patriots, or Steelers, etc.) do with Tebow that would make carrying his contract better than a disposable one-year liability? There may be good answers to that question, but then that’s basically the thrust of the poll.

Also, I think it’s shortsighted to say that locker room tension-causing drama and media circuses aren’t a factor in what happens on the field. Mid-career T.O., anyone? If no, why not?

I’ll take Tebow for the Texans, even given their salary cap issues. It’s not that much money for Tebow. Their head coach is offensively-minded, and creative enough to use Tebow in spots where he can exploit mismatches. Matt Schaub is one of the top 1/4 QBs in the League, and I’d think his spot is secure enough that he wouldn’t be constantly looking over his shoulder (unlike Sanchez).

Further, I wouldn’t mind seeing if they could develop Tebow as a passer. I’d be interested in knowing if Tebow can block well, enough to use him in the backfield with Arian Foster. Can Tebow catch at all? Is it realistic to try and use him as a FB or pseudo-TE that you can send out on short patterns, or can he only throw the ball and run with it? Is it a waste of time to develop direct-snap type plays, with Schaub also in the backfield, either with Foster too, or without? I don’t think Kubiak is as creative as, say, Sean Payton or Belichick, but he’s no dummy; I’d think he could figure out a way to use a player with Tebow’s gifts.

As far as the economic angle is concerned, I’d think it’s wasted in Houston. The Texans sell out easily every year and are already one of the more profitable franchises in the NFL.

Eli…Tebow…Eli…Tebow.

Yeah, I think I’ll just have Big Blue stick with what they’ve got, thanks. Bring on whatshisface.