Hey, for some of us, this is still yesterday.
Wow, that was some kind of crazy game. Never in a million years did I think the Pats would come back from that first half - I was just hoping they would make it competitive.
And I don’t hold a grudge against Welker for leaving, unlike a lot of Pats fans, but it still felt pretty great to have Edelman (poor man’s Welker) score twice and then have Welker screw up on the fatal punt coverage. 
Incredible, incredible game. Plus the Jets and Dolphins both lost, paving the way to what should be an easy Division title and they’re now actually in contention for the AFC #1 seed. (Pats remaining games = Texans, Browns, Dolphins, Ravens, Bills).
Is that true, that a lot of Patriots fans are angry at Welker? That seems a bit insane to me. The Patriots could have easily signed him for the money he was clearly worth, but chose to let him go to Denver instead. Nothing I’ve seen indicate Welker’s demands weren’t fair market value. And the Patriots take it or leave it offer was clearly not worth it. To me, it seems the Patriots deserve almost every ounce of resentment that Welker left, not Welker himself. If you’re not willing to pay a guy what he is worth, it’s on you when he leaves.
Why is that “cool”? If it were some jerk of a guy who messed up, fine, but what did Welker do, outside of not taking the Patriot’s below market value offer? Everything I’ve heard about him has been positive, he’s a good teammate, no problems off the field that I know about, and he seemingly plays the game the right way. Why take joy when he fails?
If you don’t take the veterans’ minimum to stay in New England you’re a horrible, terrible person and The Enemy. Pats fans are stupid (and spoiled). They booed every time he caught the ball, instead of giving him the “hey, guy, you were our whole offense for two years and we miss you” sort of love he’s due.
I don’t know how the Broncos can keep sending Trindon Holliday out to return punts. Yeah, he runs one back every now and then, but he’s muffed and fumbled more punts than he’s made big returns on.
ETA: I think we’ve seen a preview of what will happen in the playoffs. Manning clearly doesn’t have the arm to chuck it in the wind anymore. I don’t think he even attempted a pass that traveled more than 10 yards in the air.
I don’t think there’s personal malice towards Welker.
The joy is more in seeing the Patriots’ decision to let him go turn out to be a good one. There was some angst about seeing him go, and when he ended up with, ugh, Manning, the angst level rose. Again, not personal, just wondering whether the Patriots should have kept him.
Really? Have you seen what they’ve had to trot out there at the WR position this year? And you think letting him go was the right call? Outside of paying Flacco $20.1 million a year or the huge contract for Mike Wallace by Miami, I’d be hard pressed to find a worse free agent decision than the Pats letting Welker go. For a couple more million, or even less stringent incentives, the Patriots could have kept him, and they’d be a ton better than they are now.
Yes, it’s true, there are fans that resent Welker leaving. I am not one of them. I think the Pats should have done whatever it took to get him back for a couple more years. That said, I don’t think the Pats offer was quite as worthless as what you propose here, and he did not sign for much more in Denver, so some fans viewed that as a betrayal.
Trust me. If Rodgers left Green Bay and came back to Lambeau to play against you, then made a mistake that cost his new team the game, you would enjoy it, even if you harbored no ill will to Rodgers. Welker is a pretty stand-up guy from what I understand, but he still left the team and plays for a rival. I am thus quite happy to see him lose against us.
His Denver contract is fully guaranteed up to $12 million, with some escalators after that for 90 catches in either season. The Pats’ offer could have made him slightly more, but in fact $4 million of it was escalators he’d never hit before and another $2 million was escalators he’d have trouble hitting again. I don’t think the offer was “insulting” as Brian Urlacher might have put it but the team clearly didn’t make a big effort to keep him. Hell, they immediately turned around and gave Amendola $30-plus million over five years.
It wasn’t worthless, but it was definitively not market value. The fact he went to Denver for not much more is an example of that. And their subsequent payment for Amendola showed it further.
Some fans are idiots.
It all depends on how he left. For a guy like Welker, who got shafted by the Patriots over not much money, I wouldn’t enjoy it. But a guy like Favre, who fucked with, then bad mouthed the team he left, yeah, I enjoyed it when he fucked up. Welker, to me, doesn’t deserve it. Favre certainly did.
Celebrate the win, then. You don’t have to celebrate his failure.
Going back to the Packers-Vikings game, I just wanted to say how impressed I was with Eddie Lacy’s running and pass catching in that game. hew as running HARD!
I guess I’ll just have to live with the fact that my tiny moment of schaudenfreude makes me a bad person. C’est la vie.
If it’s any consolation, your schaudenfreude is likely counter balanced by mine own when Bellicheck loses.
[Taunting Sports Fan Mode]
Not really, because yours doesn’t happen very often. 
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[Meathead Mode]
Fuck that!
Patriots Suck!!!
Packers Rule!!!
Let’s go outside and fight now!!!
[/Meathead Mode]
Do Packer fans have a non-meathead mode? 
Has Schiano saved his job?
No. He’s still going to finish under .500, and likely no better than 5-11. Two straight losing seasons. Marty Schottenheimer got canned for going 14-2 with a similarly talented roster (though the Chargers admittedly had their top talent at more important positions).
Sure, but the cheesehead mode isn’t much different. 
Well, I’m back from St. Louis. Obviously seeing the Bears lose sucked, but the experience of being there outweighed that. I would say the stadium was about 50/50 Rams/Bears fans, so it was almost like being at a home game at some points. And I won $80 at the casino next door, so it wasn’t all bad.
How were the fans? I took the family to a Rams/Eagles game last year, and it was fine, but I wasn’t an Eagles fan. Things turned ugly with the drunk douchebags in the 4th quarter though and the security was piss poor, so we took off. Not a great experience for the family. How was yours?