NFL Week 16

If Cleveland wins this week and SF loses, and they both lose next week, who gets the #1 overall pick?

Yeah, this is typical Browns stuff. They don’t ever win, except when winning is detrimental in a meaningless game at the end of the year. Then they win, screw up their draft position, and have another shitty year next year with some meaningless wins at the end and the cycle repeats.

Picking one or two spots below where they could have is not the reason the Browns are the Browns. It’s because they take Trent Richardsons, Barkevious Mingos, and Justin Gilberts instead of Luke Kuechlys, Xavier Rhodes, and Aaron Donalds.

So if they had taken Andrew Luck they’d still be without a quarterback and winning less than 5 games a year, right? Because magic.

As a counter-example, Indianapolis is a badly managed team that lucked into getting two generational talents at QB. Indianapolis’ front office probably hasn’t been better than at least some of the Browns’ front offices - but they had one pick at the top of the draft at the right time, they’ve had years of succeess. Yes, that’s an outlier, but it’s not some force of nature or some curse at work here. If the Browns had better draft position in the past, they’d have ended up with better players.

The world is a complex place. Saying anything is “the reason” is making the world simple and dogmatic. The Browns would be in a better position with Andrew Luck over Trent Richardson right now, ergo some meaningless wins in 2011 have hurt them for years. This doesn’t become untrue because it’s not “the” reason they’re bad.

I don’t think SF is dumb enough to win tonight, but if they do, obviously everything is fine. But if the Browns can’t turn this fucking wasted shit season into the #1 overall pick I think that’s it for me. Fuck this stupid shitty team and their stupid shitty meaningless wins.

Aw, my Chargers: the most accommodating team in the NFL! They are just so polite! “Does snookums want a win in their last home game of the year? Well, Merry Christmas, children of the Cuyahoga”. It’s been a couple of tough years for us fans of the Bolts these last two or so. And after the failure of the stadium proposition on the ballot in November and Dean Spanos’s remarks last week I’m happily consigned to the lads returning to the city of my birth and their original incarnation. By the way, I loved San Diegans giving the Spanos family the big electoral finger in the election. The owners have seemingly on purpose eroded all goodwill that was left for the team. Have fun in Inglewood ya greedy pricks!

I understand your point and you are not wrong but my brother and nephew were in town for the holiday and we enjoyed the game today more than any in recent (or not so recent) memory. We’re Brown’s fans, there will be nearly unlimited time for regret later, today we celebrate.

I was vaguely interested in seeing the Browns go 0-16, but if they had to win a game, I’m glad it was against the Chargers.

It’s the perfect cap to the season, with the asshole owner and a large number of equally idiotic team supporters getting the big middle finger from the voters in November.

San Diego, especially the county, is full of tax-hating conservatives, and yet a significant number of them wanted to add a tax and hand a whole bunch of money over to a billionaire sports team owner just so they wouldn’t lose their shitty football team. Fuck those people. Enjoy the drive to Inglewood (or wherever they end up), assholes.

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Well, the Niners pulled out a win after being down 14 late in the fourth quarter. Looks like the Browns are safe with the #1 pick, although it would make my week if they beat the Steelers next Sunday.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE
Sorry I went down the deep end. Pent up frustrations of a whole season getting to me.

Well, I doubt that any of you had a worse day than Titans fans.

We started the day controlling our own destiny — all we had to do today to be playing for the division title next week was to beat the lowly, 2-win Jags. We had a ton of momentum, beating Denver and KC in our last two games.

We not only got blown out, looking totally inept on both offense and defense, but our franchise QB (Mariota) got his leg broken. So even if the Texans lose tonight, our season is over.

Raider fans lost their starting QB. I’m pretty sure that they win on the “worst day” scale.

A lot of tough breaks (literally) yesterday…both Carr and Mariota are out indefinitely. And the Chargers managed to find a way to lose, something they’ve become well experienced at. And Seattle blows it for the second time against the Cards (or, more specifically, Hauschka does). C’mon man, you’re paid to make those pressure-cooker kicks. Three easy misses doesn’t get it.

Bears routed at empty Soldier Field. Bwa Ha Ha Ha. What a sorry ass “sport”.

Why does Hauschka get the blame? If he’d made that last extra point it wouldn’t have really changed anything. Arizona would have received the kickoff with about a minute left, needing a field goal. Seattle would have lost by 2 instead of 3.

Going into this weekend, NFL dot com had Green Bay ahead of the Bucs for the last wildcard spot in the NFC.

After GB won and TB lost, I would have thought TB would have been eliminated from any playoff spot, as the best they can do is tie GB with a 9-7 record. (Assuming TB beats Carolina and GB loses to Detroit in Week 17)

But apparently TB is not completely eliminated as they have chance (if TB wins, and GB and Redskins lose).

Right, losing your QB but still having a chance to be the #1 seed is much worse than losing your QB and being eliminated from the playoffs.

Oakland still can get home field, with the tiebreaker over the Pats being record against common opponents. That comes to the Pats loss to Buffalo with only 1 QB, Brissett, playing with a thumb injury that put him on IR.

IOW, fuck you, Roger.

But that’s precisely, i would argue, why yesterday was worse for Oakland. They have been a good team all year, with a legitimate shot at going deep into the playoffs, at least with Carr at QB. Now, they’re probably fucked.

The Titans, by contrast, are an 8-7 team that, even with one of the easiest schedules of any NFL team in 2016, still has negative scoring differential. They were being blown out by the Jags before their QB went down yesterday. I like Marcus Mariota a lot, but they are, quite frankly, a mediocre team. While anything can happen once you reach the playoffs, i don’t think Tennessee was ever very likely to make a strong playoff run, even with a healthy Mariota.

Doug Martin ‘stepping away’ from the Bucs to focus on ‘personal issues’

I wonder if it is drug/alcohol rehab or something worse?

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