NFL Week 6 - Now With Ranting!

Today I learned how little one should listen to anything said on ESPN by the so called “experts”. The news story du jour appears to be this idea that Terrell Owens could be traded to the Bears. I can not emphasize how mind bogglingly stupid and unfounded this is. It’s one thing to wonder aloud about how a player would fit on a team, it’s another thing altogether to claim it as a possibility, likelihood or reality. Manufacturing a “rumor” and then reporting it yourself as something in the wind is tantamount to lying.

Let me enumerate the reasons why this is not only a lie, but it defies all logic. Logic and common knowledge that should be readily apparent to a professional NFL reporter/analyst. First, anyone who knows anything about the NFL knows that the Bears are obsessed with the Draft and treat draft picks like gold. The Bears made a once in a lifetime deal for Cutler and are now draft pick poor. There is no way they’d further bankrupt their future but giving away what few sparse picks that remain. The Bears are also one of the league’s most conservative and cautious family run franchises, a team that does not tolerate media circuses, distractions or prima donnas. They’ve shown the door to players who’ve run afoul of the law and have cast the franchise in a poor light, they’ve given wide latitude to good company men who’s character was greater than their football skills or acumen. Perhaps most simply, they Bears are very happy with the talent they have at the WR position right now. Johnny Knox is a young star who happens to be inexpensive and they are committed to Hester and are thus far pleased with his development. Bringing in TO would mean someone at the position would lose his job and as it stands such a short term solution would have negative long term effects on the players they are developing now. Adding TO would essentially end any chances that Iglesias, Bennett or Aromashodu had to become assets.

Anyone who you hear repeating this silly meme should be immediately categorized as a fool, a liar, a agitator and someone whose football opinion you should never trust again. ESPN is following the Fox News template of manufacturing sensationalist crap that doesn’t even past the most basic logic test to draw in those with undiscriminating mush filled minds. Pathetic really.

On to the picks.

Sunday, Oct. 18				

Early Games
** WASHINGTON 6½ Kansas City 37½ **
Man, this schedule for the Redskins is amazing. I’m sure everyone knows this by now, but the fact that they’ve yet to face a team with a win on it’s record is just nuts. The fact that they are 2-3 is equally goofy, not because it should be better but because most people think it should be worse. I’ve long said that the Skins are terrible but when one of the teams most beloved former players puts out a video like this and no one even cares to disagree with it, you’ve really accomplished something. Has there ever been a 2-3 team that people thought less of than this one? All that and the Chiefs are a TD dog?!?!? Wow, that either tells you something about how crappy the Chiefs are or how crazy bookies and gamblers are. Frankly I’m just confused. The Chiefs gave the Cowboys a game last week and have actually played a fairly tough schedule thus far partially explaining their record. The Redskins have quite a lot of talent and with Moss, Cooley and Portis it’s amazing that they’ve yet to score more than 17 points against any of these terrible opponents. Defensively they’ve got playmakers and they overmatch the Chiefs on paper up and down the lineup. I think at worst these teams are equally crappy in which case the smart money takes the points, and frankly looking at past performances the Chiefs should win this game outright even if the rosters say differently.

The Pick: Chiefs 20 - Redskins 16

** CINCINNATI 4½ Houston 45 **
This is a really interesting matchup. The Bungles look pretty good and are playing some very sound defense. That Cleveland game nags at me a little and I’m hesitant to throw myself on the bandwagon just yet, but evidence is mounting that this could be a good team. I can’t help but ask why the offense seems to struggle as it does right up until the final minutes of the games. With their talent and a functioning Cedric Benson they should be much more dynamic, if Houston comes in firing this week will Palmer and Co be able to keep up? There are some matchups that tilt heavily in the Texans favor, the Bengals weakness on D is the pass defense and safeties. The Bengals don’t pass protect well and for all the flaws with the Houston D their pass rush is for real. Still, the rest of the Texan’s D has been abused for much of the season and Cincy’s confidence in growing. I think Andre Jonson has a big game once again, but Slaton gets stuffed making them one dimensional. Ochocinco will make a few plays and Benson will keep the pass rush honest. I hope this game is broadcast in Chicago.

The Pick: Bengals 28 - Texans 24

Gotta step out, I’ll post this start just to get the thread going. Should be back later with more games. Start the jawing, people.

I agree that TO to Chicago would be a bad move. The Bears are good, but they are not one-player-away-from-a-Super-Bowl good this year. Next year, maybe, depending on the player. But not TO. Don’t like his attitude, wouldn’t want him on my team.

I feel your pain on the “experts”. This preseason Jason LaCanfora was reporting that the Steelers were going to cut Casey Hampton because he was in a contract year, 'cause of course we all know how guys play worse in their contract years and 3-4 NTs grow on trees. Idiot.

OK. Lets take a look at this list, shall we?

Week 1 vs. Denver, Brandon Marshall 4 rec. 27 yards
Week 2 vs. Green Bay, Greg Jennings 0 rec. 0 yards
Week 3 vs. Pittsburgh, Santonio Holmes 1 rec, 18 yards
Week 4 vs. Cleveland, Braylon Edwards 0 rec. 0 yards
Week 5 vs. Baltimore, Derrick Mason 0 rec. 0 yards

Now, while those are all legit #1 WR’s on their teams, I’ll concede that Andre is better than any of them. But these are ALL wideouts that have been covered by Leon Hall, and they have been blanked. Basically our defensive gameplan has been eliminate the #1 receiving option and make you burn us somewhere else.

That has faced mixed results. Our other CB, Jonathon Joseph, has three picks, two in the redzone, one of which he returned for a TD. He gambles more than Hall and thus gives up more yards. He was also beaten in coverage by noobs like Wallace in the Pitt game and Massaquoi in the CLE game. While they both racked up some big yards, neither scored (I don’t think).

Don’t put too much stock into that Cleveland game. That was a desperate team that just switched to a QB that seems to always have success against the Bengals, they were at home and the rivalry still exists. It is almost always a tough game.

I don’t fear the Texans. They have a few weapons, but so did every other team we’ve already beaten.

Furthermore, your assertions that the Bengals don’t pass protect well (then how did Carson manage those cardiac comebacks? How many times has he been sacked?) or that the Bengals secondary is somehow less than good are off the mark.

We have two of the best CB’s in the league, both recent 1st rounders, both of whom bring different yet complimentary styles to the defense. Our safeties are good and we are deep at the position. Why does everyone think Roy Williams sucks? Jeez, all those probowls go out the window when you have one injured season I guess, and now you’re playing for your d-coordinator that you had in Dallas when all your success occurred.

The Bengals oline is still a work in progress, but if you rewatch the Ratbird game Carson was quite well protected outside a couple sacks. If they can protect him from the Ravens defense, they can protect him from an uneven squad like the Texans.

In short, I don’t think you watch enough Bengals football to truly see where we are at yet (and I don’t make Bears predictions, do I?).

I agree that it may be another close game, but the Bengalis are at home and I think the offense still has a LOT to prove. They are the side of the ball that worries me the most. They still haven’t played a 4 quarter game yet. When they do, it’s lights out for whomever they are facing. There’s just too much talent there. Hopefully that happens this Sunday.

I’m still waiting for a gaudy point total from this capable, but strangely handicapped offense that seems to come alive only when it matters most.

Roy Williams always was a below-average cover man, even when he was going to the Pro Bowl. He was a very effective player against the run, who had a number of highlight-reel hits, which is why he got lots of pub and was very overrated by the media.

Blow up a RB, they put you on Sportscenter and talk about how awesome you are. Be slow dropping into zone coverage and they talk about how the TE “found a seam” that just happened to be there.

All good Defenses give up big plays to the 3rd WRs when the top guys are blanketed. I don’t think detracts from them at all. In the base defense there is always going to be someone open at some point during the game. If the opposing teams get their biggest gains from the #3 guys it’s a credit to the starting corners. Having said all that I still don’t think Roy Williams is a good or even average safety in coverage, sorry, but you’re 5-1 who cares what everyone thinks?

While that may be partially true, for one, Roy has availed himself pretty well in the face of that notion, and for two, we have a guy named Chinedum Ndukwe that started at safety for us last year that replaces Roy on passing downs, who is excellent in coverage and almost as vicious a hitter. This is the beauty of this Bengals team so far…it isn’t completely wracked by injuries (outside the TE position) like it was the last couple years…it makes a HUGE difference when you have uninjured depth to situationally rotate in and out.

Actually, we’re only 4-1, but…yeah. I still feel the need to defend Williams because despite his apparent lack of coverage skills in Dallas, he doesn’t seem to have the same issue here in Cincinnati. But we don’t expose him either, which may explain it. But it sure is nice having a headhunter back there that makes opposing offensive players wonder if they are about to suffer a concussion or not, and therefore drop a pass, be tentative, etc. You know this. You have Polamalu. And his hair commercials!

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Oops. It’s a sign! :smiley:

Re: Redskins

They’ve been gold for me so far this year. I might lose a few picks to my bookie but I can always count on the Redskins UNDER and taking whoever is playing against them. I even took Detroit straight up parlayed with the under in that game. Nice $$ for me!

I’m going to keep riding this bus until it comes to a stop. Sure, one day, the 'Skins will score a few points and I’ll lose that bet that day, but until then it’s like I’ve got a printing press at my house that churns out $20s.

Have they even scored more than 20 points in a game in the last year and a half? I know they haven’t this year…

The Steelers play the Browns this week and should win but this game has trap written all over it. Polamalu is back but Aaron Smith is out for the season. IMO, Smith is a tougher loss for the team to deal with. it won’t be as bad as the last time they lost him though, Eason was new to the system then and Clark Haggans was the weak-side backer and he was nowhere near as good as Woodley is. I’m not worried about the D though. I’m worried they’ll get overconfident on offense and throw a bunch of picks. They have a tough game coming up next week against the Vikings and then the bye week after that. Hopefully Tomlin will keep them focused on the game at hand. The Browns have been the best team I’ve seen so far at dealing with James Harrison without sliding over extra protection all the time.

Yeah, we do have one good player.

SUPERBOWL!

I’m not worried.

Pittsburgh 28, Cleveland 10, with no collapse in the 4th quarter this time.

I can think of three I’d want on my team: Thomas, Steinbach, and Shaun Rogers.

Cribbs, obviously. Eric Wright is better than your corners, D’Qwell Jackson has got to be better than one of your ILBs, Mack is better than Wood, Vickers is a top 3 or 5 fullback. But yeah, pretty shitty talent level.

I forgot about Cribbs, he’s great. As far as corners, Ike Taylor is underrated. If he didn’t catch like he was wearing oven mitts he’s be a Pro Bowler. Haven’t focused on D’Qwell Jackson; I’ll pay attention to him this weekend.

Lots of guys would be upgrades over current players but there are some guys I see on the other side and think, fuck yeah, they could play for me anytime. Joe Thomas is a guy like that. When we play the Ravens I always covet Haloti Ngata in Black and Gold. He takes too many plays off maybe but he’s a brute.

Logan is looking pretty good in the return game himself.

I think the jury is still out. The Bengals are 23rd in pass defense despite being tied for 4th in sacks. And that number is not bloated by playing with big leads. When you shut down #1 WRs the way they have and you’re still 23rd in pass defense you have issues. On that point, just about every one of those players have circumstances which perhaps take a lot of credit away from Hall. Marshall was in pads for essentially his first time due to missing all of camp, played a limited role and had a QB with a compound dislocation of the index finger on his throwing hand. I’ve seen a ton of Green Bay game and the only thing stopping Jennings in the offensive scheme. The guy is open all day long and Jennings called the coach out for it last week, plus that was the 8 sack game for Rodgers which makes hitting your deep guy an issue. Holmes has been a joke pretty much all year, I think he dropped like 3 balls in that game and has been running the wrong routes most of the season. Edwards sucked and the Browns QB sucked, 'nuff said. Derrick Mason is Derrick Mason and should get shut down by any decent corner. Now, I don’t mean this to disparage Hall, he deserves a lot of credit for playing well thus far. Still, he’s gotten a lot of breaks and this week will be his first real test with a QB and WR who are actually clicking. We shall see.

I picked the Bengals to win, I think they’ll get a lot of help from the weather and the field, the Texans struggle outdoors. Hall probably gets brought back to earth a bit, the running game keeps the Texans on their heels and limits the hit Palmer has to take. Close game, but a Bengals win. We’ll see how close I am, I’ve watched every single Bengals game this season with the exception of the first one so I feel pretty good about my read on them minus the homer bias.

Perhaps you’re right. Andre is probably the best WR in the NFL right now, so he does concern me. Hopefully Roy Willams can give him a proper “Welcome To The Jungle” and send him to the sidelines for a few quarters of the tilt.

This would be the same Mason who puts up 1,000 yards every season? :dubious: Think you’re trying a bit too hard there.

Though I agree with your larger point: on balance, the Bengal’s defense is no great shakes.

I am going to go waaaaaaaaay out on a limb here and bet the Rams to lose pitifully.

** PITTSBURGH 14 Cleveland 38 **
This game really shouldn’t be close, but the Steelers have been so inconsistent and mistake prone that I need to think long and hard about giving 2 TDs in a divisional game. It’s obvious to me that Mendenhall is the engine that makes this Steelers team go right now. The pass protection has issues and the WRs seem lost out there, you simply cannot rely on that passing game if they can’t move the ball on the ground and set up 2nd/3rd and short situations. With Shaun Rogers you’d expect the Browns to be solid against the run but they’ve been getting slaughtered all season long, they gave up 145 to the Bills for gods sake. After that fabulous DA game last week you can’t really expect the Brownies to score much on the Steelers either.

The Pick: Steelers 30 - Browns 13

** MINNESOTA 2½ Baltimore 43½ **
The Bears could really use a Ravens win here, but I don’t see them going into that dome and getting it done. The last few weeks have exposed some cracks and if Cedric Benson goes for 120 against the Ravens AD will probably match that and then some. The Ravens secondary is playing very poorly, especially the corners, and Brett Favre seems to be clicking with Sidney Rice and Berrian will occupy the Safeties allowing a big game from the slot. The Vikes have one of the best lines in football and with the balanced attack the Ravens pass rush will be marginalized. Flacco will have to contend with a really fierce pass rush and he could be rattled by the crowd noise, he’s still young afterall. The Williams wall should contain the Ravens running game and make the entire thing a frustration experience for the Ravens.

Now, just you watch the real Brett Favre make an appearance and totally screw this up. You know it’ll happen eventually.

The Pick: Vikings 27 - Ravens 13

** JACKSONVILLE 10 ST Louis 41½ **
The Jaguars have a ton of strife in that locker room after being flat out embarrassed last week. MJD called out the coaching staff and generally speaking that’s reason for serious concern. I especially think Jack Del Rio is the type of coach to react stubbornly to such a challenge. But…this is the Rams, coming into Jacksonville no less. Lots of hurt feelings can be mended against the Rams. Fantasy owners rejoice, MJD will have a monster game. Mike Sims-Walker will not be held out at the last minute and he’ll be targeted often early. The Jags need to contend with Steven Jackson and I don’t think the Rams will turn the ball over 3 times in the Red Zone again but I don’t see that offense getting right on the road. Bulger will be back under center and I think this is a bad thing for the Rams outside the dome, Boller gives them a better chance to win outdoors.

The Pick: Jaguars 31 - Rams 12

** NEW ORLEANS 3½ NY Giants 47½ **
Probably the best game of the week right here and another one we probably won’t get to watch in Chicago. Between this, Cincy-Houston, Minny-Baltimore and a divisional GB-Detroit tilt I’m going to have to hit the bar and soak in the multi-TV goodness.

I was surprised that Eli came out and played as flawlessly as he did with that foot issue, though I’m not surprised the Giants embarrassed the Radiers. I suppose you should just ignore that issue in this game, but I can’t help but wonder if the hard turf in New Orleans will be a different story. It’s interesting that the line has moved to a Pick 'Em over the course of the week, a lot of NYC money going to the Giants I suppose. When that happens I love going against the grain. I like the idea of Gregg Williams attacking Eli and making him move on that foot and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Darren Sharper come up with a couple opportunities. You can trust that the crowd in the Superdome will be rabid and making life tough for the Giants O Line. Certainly the Giants running attack will decide the game but the Saints have a very under rated run defense and should limit Jacobs and Bradshaw forcing Eli to beat them through the air. The Saints are coming off a Bye and should be well prepared for anything the Giants throw at them. Brees needs to stay upright and avoid the Giants pass rush but I suspect that Payton has something up his sleeve and the newly powerful Saints rushing attack will help the cause a ton by making them hesitate and move laterally. Whatever happens it will be a blast to watch, definitely take the Over.

The Pick: Saints 30 - Giants 24

** Carolina 3½ TAMPA BAY 39½ **
Hmm, which is the worse game, this or the Skins-Chiefs? Probably Skins-Chiefs, I kinda think Tampa is frisky and Josh Johnson is at least entertaining to watch. If I were the Panthers I’m calling Cleveland and seeing if I can get Brady Quinn for a 3rd round pick right now. Delhomme is done and they aren’t going to have Steve Smith’s services for much longer, I’m not sure if Quinn can be an NFL QB but it seems clear that Cleveland isn’t the system or place for it. If I’m Carolina I’m taking that gamble, and if Cowher is the coach next year he’ll at least be able to find out. For Cleveland, a 3rd round pick would probably be a jackpot considering they are in rebuilding mode and Quinn hasn’t demonstrated greater value than that at that price.

Anyways, on to this game. The Bucs defense hasn’t been very good, especially against the run, which is just what the Panthers need right now. Williams and Stewart must get something going and with the Bucs giving away 4.7 YPC it really should happen. Turnovers have killed the Panthers and the Bucs aren’t really good enough on defense to really continue that trend. Tampa may have some success through the air with Winslow and Bryant and Johnson getting outside the pocket and the Panthers run defense isn’t particularly stout themselves so Cadillac and Ward ought to make some hay but in the end the Panthers just need this game too much and have every reason to go and get it.

The Pick: Panthers 20 - Buccaneers 17

** GREEN BAY 13½ Detroit 48 **
The Lions are feisty and the Packers offense has serious issues, they can’t pass protect and Greg Jennings is getting pissed about Rodgers’ blinders. Still, feisty isn’t enough in Lambeau with Culpepper under center and Megatron on the bench. The Lions don’t have the type of pass rush that can exploit the Packers sieve like Line and coming out of a Bye you have to think McCarthy was able to solve the problems at least somewhat. Also, the Packers really need to get Ryan Grant working and it shouldn’t take much analysis to realize that feeding him the rock will solve many of those protection issues against the Lions. Forte got right versus them in Week 4, expect Grant to follow. I think the Lions are moving the right direction as team, but with their 2 best players on the shelf and facing a team they match up poorly against expect a big step back this week.

The Pick: Packers 35 - Lions 10